Rant Year in review FreeOnes vs PayServe - GoFuckYourself.com

Roald · 11-03-2014, 03:25 AM

So it's been 1 year since I made the move from FreeOnes to PayServe. From free site to pay site. Not sure if anyone cares but for the people who do here is a review of my experience so far on being on the other side of the fence. A lot of people didn't understand why I went with PayServe but what most people don't know is that PayServe is part of a holding (Sansyl) and they offer a lot of different things in adult. Broadcasting, licensing, hosting, billing, pay sites, DVDs, magazines (yes still) etc we got it all. So there is a lot going on and that's one of the reasons I said yes when they approached me.

When I started at PayServe it was clear that there was a lot of work to do. A lot was still stuck in 2010 in regards to billing, feel and user experience. Besides that there were some things in regards to management, employees and projects I needed to take care of. I was used to very strict ways of working at FreeOnes, lots of meetings, lots of notes, lots of ideas, lots of time consuming things which at times hold us back too much in a fast changing environment. Now at PayServe things were way more laid back. A bit too laid back imo so we had to find a proper balance there. Where do we want to go, what do we need to do, have a vision, etc. Things that we worked on and I think we have a good balance right now. We can move pretty fast and things get done in a timely manner. We are hiring people and things are looking ok right now. Far from perfect but with the current team we achieved quite a lot in the past year so I am happy.

Now first thing on the list was redoing ClubSeventeen. As one of the major European brands it's our flag ship site and there was quite some work to do. We started with the easy part, a new tour. After implementing we continued redoing the complete member area making sure all was more user friendly, more up to date and more geared towards selling. Some say the site lost it's "unique" look but if you ask me this "unique" look was mostly due to the site being old in terms of design.

Besides the layout we also added the mentions on the site that all our girls are 18+. I am very aware of the sensitive name the brand has so we needed to at least make sure people know it's a brand and not the age of the girls. Besides that we also launched ClubSweetheart. Same content but with a different less sensitive name. Affiliates can choose whether they like to push the old original ClubSeventeen brand or go with the ClubSweethearts one. This works out well specially on north American traffic. So in March of this year we launched our new ClubSeventeen member area. The platform for it is all custom build and we can easily clone it and use it on other sites.

While working on the ClubSeventeen site we worked on the side on the live cam platform we have. SeventeenLive is our own premium cam platform geared towards member area traffic. We of course push this pretty hard our self from our own site but we also have WLs in other member areas. We work mostly with exclusive (Eastern European) girls so the member gets to know the girls, falls in love and well... spends money We added 1 click up sales of credit packages in general and in the private chat for when the member runs low on credits. All basic stuff which makes a nice difference in regards to usability and revenue. We upgraded the cam stream quality and size of it. Working on the live site is an ongoing thing as it is one of our main money makers. Working out promos for it is fun, especially when it pays off.

Along the way we launched brand new fully responsive tours for our other properties BeautyandtheSenior, YoungBusty, MySexyKittens, PackofPorn and Redlight/AmsterdamSexTrips.

During the summer we did a "big" production, next to our regular productions, called Teeners From Holland. I am aware of the need of exclusive content and we are working hard towards updating with only exclusive content again. Right now we update ClubSeventeen with 24 updates a week. about 60% of that is exclusive. Content for sites like JimSlip, LarasPlayground, BATS, RedlightSexTrips, ElegantRaw is almost all exclusive.

Also this summer we started accepting free joins to the Club. Not the "free" (49 cents is charged for processing fees to get the CC in) join we introduced at the beginning of the year but a true email confirmation only join. So people can create an account with just a valid email addy and can enter the Club. Inside they can browse around but when they get to the actual content we hit them with the upgrade pop. So people get to see exactly what they get before they join. This is a process in the works but so far I would say that 30% converts to a full membership and about half of those are taking the year offer. We are still working and tweaking on this but so far I think we are on the right way.

So I mentioned the "free" join with CC option above already. We charge a 49 cents processing fee to get the card on file and we rebill into a regular membership after 24 hours unless they cancel. We first tried it with a true free option (still with CC) but charging the 49 cents worked out way better. Guess it makes sense to people as to why they have to fill in their cc info and pay for the processing fee.

Something I inherited from the former CEO were projects like SexyOnes and an App they had custom build. Both projects did cost a small fortune but both projects are gone now. The content for SexyOnes matches ClubSeventeen a lot so that will all be used there. The App is just a write off. Things like this happen. When I can not fully be behind a product I find it hard to try to make the most out of it and in that case I rather write it off than keep it on and do a shitty job on it.

As some of you know we run partner ships too. Sites like JimSlip and BATS are good examples of them. The producers are on a % and they just have to worry about the production of content. We do the rest, from affiliates to billing and layouts etc. So we both get to do what we are good at. 2 months ago we got Nathan Blake onboard which brought us ElegantRaw. Before the end of the year we have 2 more sites coming up. 1 of them being one of the biggest amateur producers in Germany. That one will be interesting since it will open us up to the massive German market with a proper product. So stay tuned for that if you have a lot of German traffic.

In 2015 we?re going to focus a lot on the Tainster network which we neglected a bit the last year. This is going to be an exciting project as the content on it is great, we just need to put some work in it. Sites like PartyHardcore and SlimeWave are perfect examples of the great content they shoot. The way it is put online can use some work though so that?s going to be a big one next year.

Affiliates. Now this is something that didn't surprise me much as it works in most business like this. 20% of our affiliates make 80% of our revenue. Among them review sites, discount sites, tube submitters and of course tube sites. We are uploading to tube sites too as they are a great way to get traffic. Would I like them to be gone? Sure in a heartbeat. But let's face it, things are not changing anytime soon so better to make the most out of it than just go on the boards alll day long and whine about the old days. 90% of the bigger affiliates we have are hardly ever asking anything. It's the small timers who need a hand a lot. At one point I don't care and understand a small timer can get big one time but on the other hand I do think it makes sense to put more energy into the big guys and tweak and work closer with them. Right now we are trying to do both with mixed results as we only have so many hands in the office.

So what is the biggest difference between running FreeOnes and running PayServe you ask? Well I?m Dutch and at FreeOnes I hardly ever needed to pay for a drink, lunch or dinner. Now at PayServe that's the other way around and it just doesn't feel right haha. In all seriousness, there is not much of a difference. It's marketing we do and even though it's a different market it still comes down to gaining trust and giving the users what they want and expect. It's not easy but in my opinion that goes up to any part of this business. Hard work still pays off and it shows. October was the best month since March 2012 and overall this year will be a good one.

Do I think adult is dead? No, it changed. We still sell DVDs, we still have magazines. Not doing the numbers we once did but still (and specially on DVD) a good product that's different still works.

Thank you for reading. If you fell asleep half way through than fuck you.

Up to 2015. See you guys in Vegas!!!

Markul · 11-03-2014, 03:32 AM

Good read. Thanks for sharing

InfoGuy · 11-03-2014, 03:37 AM

Good read, you should rant more often.

AdultKing · 11-03-2014, 03:44 AM

Great read Roald.

Diomed · 11-03-2014, 03:48 AM

So when looking at your sites on an iPad. A large portion of it is just a single skinny column aligned left. With a lot of blank unused space to the center and right sides.

When you mention responsive design, do you mean you just mixed mobile and and non mobile layouts?

regardless,

Really dig the positive attitude and hard work can do spirit.

Roald · 11-03-2014, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed

So when looking at your sites on an iPad. A large portion of it is just a single skinny column aligned left. With a lot of blank unused space to the center and right sides.

When you mention responsive design, do you mean you just mixed mobile and and non mobile layouts?

regardless,

Really dig the positive attitude and hard work can do spirit.

Not sure what you are seeing/saying, can you email me a screenshot perhaps? [email protected], appreciated!

xanadu · 11-03-2014, 03:52 AM

interesting read and thanks for sharing Roald!

Goethe · 11-03-2014, 03:52 AM

Looks like a hell of a lot of hard work and thought goes into these sites. Congrats!

Diomed · 11-03-2014, 04:09 AM

Say for instance club seventeen.

I say a full page width header, then it drops down to a single file align left group of images. Like a mobile browser "one image per line" but align left not center, then the footer is full width again.

EddyTheDog · 11-03-2014, 04:21 AM

I enjoyed that - Good read - Thanks...

Any plans for BiMaxx and how the hell had I missed SlimeWave?....

Roald · 11-03-2014, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed

Say for instance club seventeen.

I say a full page width header, then it drops down to a single file align left group of images. Like a mobile browser "one image per line" but align left not center, then the footer is full width again.

Can you please email me a screenshot. I am not seeing anything weird on my ipad here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I enjoyed that - Good read - Thanks...

Any plans for BiMaxx and how the hell had I missed SlimeWave?....

For BiMaxx we're not sure yet what we want to do. A tour with better focus on the content would be a first step but that's all we have right now.

anexsia · 11-03-2014, 04:46 AM

Thanks for the read Roald, good info.

DamageX · 11-03-2014, 04:48 AM

Cliff notes?

Kidding aside, interested in the payout for the cam site, gave the payout page a quick look but cams payout wasn't mentioned. Feel free to PM/ICQ me about it, if you don't wanna post it publicly. Thanks!

TeenCat · 11-03-2014, 04:48 AM

good reading, good to see you are all good at payserve

except the free food

keep up the good work!

JFK · 11-03-2014, 04:51 AM

I just signed up for the FREE Join

AmeliaG · 11-03-2014, 04:56 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience

ctggls · 11-03-2014, 05:05 AM

Nice reading Roald. You are among the few left here that I really enjoy reading when you have something to say.

By the way, at 7.05 EST time , http://seventeenlive.com/ is down ...

Paul&John · 11-03-2014, 05:22 AM

Great read ;)

Matyko · 11-03-2014, 05:23 AM

Thanks for sharing this, nice read indeed!

Ramster · 11-03-2014, 05:29 AM

Great read Roald and I'm sure things will be great for you and Payserve in 2015

fitzmulti · 11-03-2014, 05:35 AM

Very nice, Roald! Great insight and information!
Have a great 2015!!!

Phoenix · 11-03-2014, 05:38 AM

Good stuff, I gleaned that you have an excellent work ethic. Can see the pride you have in work that you involve yourself in. Always a positive vibe also, even though you lure us in with a promise of drama..lol

Kudos

Dirty D · 11-03-2014, 05:43 AM

Great update Roald

Keep up the good work

djroof · 11-03-2014, 06:14 AM

Nice read man!

Jel · 11-03-2014, 06:45 AM

nice read mate

I earned a lot of money with party hardcore over the years, right until they changed the tour to coincide with the tainster rollout, and it went to dog shit. Why the old tour(s) weren't kept up if the affiliate wanted to send to that tour(s) I'll never know

program3 did the same with dancing bear, forcing the new tours even when using other tours' linking codes. Did the same as the PH changes and killed conversions for cfnm traffic. Thank fuck panda/penguin wiped out all my traffic anyway

Roald · 11-03-2014, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Cliff notes?

Kidding aside, interested in the payout for the cam site, gave the payout page a quick look but cams payout wasn't mentioned. Feel free to PM/ICQ me about it, if you don't wanna post it publicly. Thanks!

The cam platform is something that works best on MA traffic as it's not the typical free site set up. The % for this starts at 20%

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctggls

Nice reading Roald. You are among the few left here that I really enjoy reading when you have something to say.

By the way, at 7.05 EST time , http://seventeenlive.com/ is down ...

Hm, probably a hick up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Good stuff, I gleaned that you have an excellent work ethic. Can see the pride you have in work that you involve yourself in. Always a positive vibe also, even though you lure us in with a promise of drama..lol

Kudos

People crave drama ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

nice read mate

I earned a lot of money with party hardcore over the years, right until they changed the tour to coincide with the tainster rollout, and it went to dog shit. Why the old tour(s) weren't kept up if the affiliate wanted to send to that tour(s) I'll never know

program3 did the same with dancing bear, forcing the new tours even when using other tours' linking codes. Did the same as the PH changes and killed conversions for cfnm traffic. Thank fuck panda/penguin wiped out all my traffic anyway

Yeah I heard this before, not sure why and what but we're going to work on it as it's a shame really. It's not doing bad atm don't get me wrong but it has a lot more potential.

wehateporn · 11-03-2014, 07:38 AM

Great post Roald!

wehateporn · 11-03-2014, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

nice read mate

I earned a lot of money with party hardcore over the years, right until they changed the tour to coincide with the tainster rollout, and it went to dog shit. Why the old tour(s) weren't kept up if the affiliate wanted to send to that tour(s) I'll never know

One of those sites used to convert really well for me too, was quite a shame what happened, but now that Roald is on-board things are looking bright

FriendsForNow · 11-03-2014, 07:46 AM

Good read. Thx Roald.

biris · 11-03-2014, 07:55 AM

I fell asleep...:p
thanks for sharing man, this is the kind of posts that GFY needs!
cheers, see you in Vegas!

myjah · 11-03-2014, 08:27 AM

Now if we could just get you to write an educational article...;)

Mark-G · 11-03-2014, 08:34 AM

Great post! Thank you for sharing

CaptainHowdy · 11-03-2014, 08:35 AM

Very informative, Roald.

Relentless · 11-03-2014, 08:50 AM

Roald,

As you know, I have an email box FULL of requests, changes, revisions, complete do-overs and strange routes from point A to point B that often included many extra steps or no follow through at all from the time when things were laid back and the vision was far from clear. I am really glad to see all the progress you have made in the last year. Putting the company on track and getting everyone moving in the same direction must have been quite a task, and you deserve a lot of credit for making it happen.

The company always had a strong name and a huge content library, but changing focus as often as it did and having some people focused on completely unrelated goals or unwilling to complete projects that were already started by others was incredibly frustrating. Especially because the people involved were all very nice. Wanting to help or wanting to do well isn't enough without focus and follow through (with free sites or pay sites).

Congrats on all the improvements you brought to payserve, and congrats even more on actually following through with those ideas all the way from start to finish. It's great to see.

PAR · 11-03-2014, 08:53 AM

Does this mean it's your turn to buy drinks in Vegas lol

As for how the site looks on tablet etc.. You can replicate this with:
https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/device-mode

LeRoy · 11-03-2014, 09:05 AM

Damn you're a busy guy!! Nice to see your progress with the new company you're working for

See you in Vegas!

brassmonkey · 11-03-2014, 09:22 AM

i noticed improvements at payserve. some things need fixing tho

hosted flv has a lot of blank titles

Sid70 · 11-03-2014, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

than fuck you.

The inevitable.

Mickey_ · 11-03-2014, 09:41 AM

The security camera was turned on in my office as I was reading your thread:

You know what I really think, though.

PayServe's already excellent crew grew with +1.
Keep up the strong work, to infinity and beyond and thanks for sharing!

ps. it's crazy a year has already passed.

suesheboy · 11-03-2014, 10:04 AM

I would love to see more people do this. Very interesting.

Roald · 11-03-2014, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR

Does this mean it's your turn to buy drinks in Vegas lol

As for how the site looks on tablet etc.. You can replicate this with:
https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/device-mode

See you in Vegas yes

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i noticed improvements at payserve. some things need fixing tho

hosted flv has a lot of blank titles

We're not updating those anymore since almost a year now I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey_

The security camera was turned on in my office as I was reading your thread:

lol

rabbit · 11-03-2014, 11:38 AM

You're doing a great job and it's been a pleasure working with you instead of competing with you! j/k freeones can hardly compete with rabbits :p

SEO Keyboard Ninja · 11-03-2014, 12:15 PM

Now this is a thread Roald. Awesome read, balanced approach and solid foundation. I'll be looking to watch the progress of the sites!

Cherry7 · 11-03-2014, 12:48 PM

How could anyone think Club Seventeen Girls were not 18?

The Porn Nerd · 11-03-2014, 12:58 PM

Great read Roald! You are obviously doing great work and I would not fire you, regardless of what your Boss says when he drunk dials me at 3 am ranting about 'that Dutch guy" (I assume he means you).

Speaking of being Dutch: shouldn't you be paying for HALF your food/drinks at most? :D

(Congrats on the great year and improvements man.)

Paper_Amar · 11-03-2014, 01:22 PM

great write up

im sure this exp has been great for you. Looking fwd to some fun times in Vegas my friend!

MaDalton · 11-03-2014, 01:27 PM

thanks for sharing!

Tasty1 · 11-03-2014, 01:31 PM

Great update! I think every man in Holland grew up with Seventeen

And i hope that will continue the next generations!

See you in Utrecht and bring some beer ;)

JFK · 11-03-2014, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Great update! I think every man in Holland grew up with Seventeen

And i hope that will continue the next generations!

See you in Utrecht and bring some beer ;)

UTRECHT

Pornopat · 11-03-2014, 01:39 PM

So you used to be at Free Ones???

11-03-2014, 03:25 AM	#1
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,877	Year in review FreeOnes vs PayServe So it's been 1 year since I made the move from FreeOnes to PayServe. From free site to pay site. Not sure if anyone cares but for the people who do here is a review of my experience so far on being on the other side of the fence. A lot of people didn't understand why I went with PayServe but what most people don't know is that PayServe is part of a holding (Sansyl) and they offer a lot of different things in adult. Broadcasting, licensing, hosting, billing, pay sites, DVDs, magazines (yes still) etc we got it all. So there is a lot going on and that's one of the reasons I said yes when they approached me. When I started at PayServe it was clear that there was a lot of work to do. A lot was still stuck in 2010 in regards to billing, feel and user experience. Besides that there were some things in regards to management, employees and projects I needed to take care of. I was used to very strict ways of working at FreeOnes, lots of meetings, lots of notes, lots of ideas, lots of time consuming things which at times hold us back too much in a fast changing environment. Now at PayServe things were way more laid back. A bit too laid back imo so we had to find a proper balance there. Where do we want to go, what do we need to do, have a vision, etc. Things that we worked on and I think we have a good balance right now. We can move pretty fast and things get done in a timely manner. We are hiring people and things are looking ok right now. Far from perfect but with the current team we achieved quite a lot in the past year so I am happy. Now first thing on the list was redoing ClubSeventeen. As one of the major European brands it's our flag ship site and there was quite some work to do. We started with the easy part, a new tour. After implementing we continued redoing the complete member area making sure all was more user friendly, more up to date and more geared towards selling. Some say the site lost it's "unique" look but if you ask me this "unique" look was mostly due to the site being old in terms of design. Besides the layout we also added the mentions on the site that all our girls are 18+. I am very aware of the sensitive name the brand has so we needed to at least make sure people know it's a brand and not the age of the girls. Besides that we also launched ClubSweetheart. Same content but with a different less sensitive name. Affiliates can choose whether they like to push the old original ClubSeventeen brand or go with the ClubSweethearts one. This works out well specially on north American traffic. So in March of this year we launched our new ClubSeventeen member area. The platform for it is all custom build and we can easily clone it and use it on other sites. While working on the ClubSeventeen site we worked on the side on the live cam platform we have. SeventeenLive is our own premium cam platform geared towards member area traffic. We of course push this pretty hard our self from our own site but we also have WLs in other member areas. We work mostly with exclusive (Eastern European) girls so the member gets to know the girls, falls in love and well... spends money We added 1 click up sales of credit packages in general and in the private chat for when the member runs low on credits. All basic stuff which makes a nice difference in regards to usability and revenue. We upgraded the cam stream quality and size of it. Working on the live site is an ongoing thing as it is one of our main money makers. Working out promos for it is fun, especially when it pays off. Along the way we launched brand new fully responsive tours for our other properties BeautyandtheSenior, YoungBusty, MySexyKittens, PackofPorn and Redlight/AmsterdamSexTrips. During the summer we did a "big" production, next to our regular productions, called Teeners From Holland. I am aware of the need of exclusive content and we are working hard towards updating with only exclusive content again. Right now we update ClubSeventeen with 24 updates a week. about 60% of that is exclusive. Content for sites like JimSlip, LarasPlayground, BATS, RedlightSexTrips, ElegantRaw is almost all exclusive. Also this summer we started accepting free joins to the Club. Not the "free" (49 cents is charged for processing fees to get the CC in) join we introduced at the beginning of the year but a true email confirmation only join. So people can create an account with just a valid email addy and can enter the Club. Inside they can browse around but when they get to the actual content we hit them with the upgrade pop. So people get to see exactly what they get before they join. This is a process in the works but so far I would say that 30% converts to a full membership and about half of those are taking the year offer. We are still working and tweaking on this but so far I think we are on the right way. So I mentioned the "free" join with CC option above already. We charge a 49 cents processing fee to get the card on file and we rebill into a regular membership after 24 hours unless they cancel. We first tried it with a true free option (still with CC) but charging the 49 cents worked out way better. Guess it makes sense to people as to why they have to fill in their cc info and pay for the processing fee. Something I inherited from the former CEO were projects like SexyOnes and an App they had custom build. Both projects did cost a small fortune but both projects are gone now. The content for SexyOnes matches ClubSeventeen a lot so that will all be used there. The App is just a write off. Things like this happen. When I can not fully be behind a product I find it hard to try to make the most out of it and in that case I rather write it off than keep it on and do a shitty job on it. As some of you know we run partner ships too. Sites like JimSlip and BATS are good examples of them. The producers are on a % and they just have to worry about the production of content. We do the rest, from affiliates to billing and layouts etc. So we both get to do what we are good at. 2 months ago we got Nathan Blake onboard which brought us ElegantRaw. Before the end of the year we have 2 more sites coming up. 1 of them being one of the biggest amateur producers in Germany. That one will be interesting since it will open us up to the massive German market with a proper product. So stay tuned for that if you have a lot of German traffic. In 2015 we?re going to focus a lot on the Tainster network which we neglected a bit the last year. This is going to be an exciting project as the content on it is great, we just need to put some work in it. Sites like PartyHardcore and SlimeWave are perfect examples of the great content they shoot. The way it is put online can use some work though so that?s going to be a big one next year. Affiliates. Now this is something that didn't surprise me much as it works in most business like this. 20% of our affiliates make 80% of our revenue. Among them review sites, discount sites, tube submitters and of course tube sites. We are uploading to tube sites too as they are a great way to get traffic. Would I like them to be gone? Sure in a heartbeat. But let's face it, things are not changing anytime soon so better to make the most out of it than just go on the boards alll day long and whine about the old days. 90% of the bigger affiliates we have are hardly ever asking anything. It's the small timers who need a hand a lot. At one point I don't care and understand a small timer can get big one time but on the other hand I do think it makes sense to put more energy into the big guys and tweak and work closer with them. Right now we are trying to do both with mixed results as we only have so many hands in the office. So what is the biggest difference between running FreeOnes and running PayServe you ask? Well I?m Dutch and at FreeOnes I hardly ever needed to pay for a drink, lunch or dinner. Now at PayServe that's the other way around and it just doesn't feel right haha. In all seriousness, there is not much of a difference. It's marketing we do and even though it's a different market it still comes down to gaining trust and giving the users what they want and expect. It's not easy but in my opinion that goes up to any part of this business. Hard work still pays off and it shows. October was the best month since March 2012 and overall this year will be a good one. Do I think adult is dead? No, it changed. We still sell DVDs, we still have magazines. Not doing the numbers we once did but still (and specially on DVD) a good product that's different still works. Thank you for reading. If you fell asleep half way through than fuck you. Up to 2015. See you guys in Vegas!!! __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| skype:roaldr \| icq:

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Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	So when looking at your sites on an iPad. A large portion of it is just a single skinny column aligned left. With a lot of blank unused space to the center and right sides. When you mention responsive design, do you mean you just mixed mobile and and non mobile layouts? regardless, Really dig the positive attitude and hard work can do spirit. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

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11-03-2014, 04:09 AM	#9
Diomed Converting like it's 1999 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6,164	Say for instance club seventeen. I say a full page width header, then it drops down to a single file align left group of images. Like a mobile browser "one image per line" but align left not center, then the footer is full width again. __________________ 10 years of experience in: CHAT SALES - PAID TRAFFIC - CONVERSION - CREATIVES - CONSULTATION

11-03-2014, 03:32 AM	#2
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,401	Good read. Thanks for sharing

11-03-2014, 03:44 AM	#4
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	Great read Roald.

11-03-2014, 03:52 AM	#8
Goethe So Fuckin' Bored Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Across the Universe Posts: 1,085	Looks like a hell of a lot of hard work and thought goes into these sites. Congrats!

11-03-2014, 04:21 AM	#10
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,038	I enjoyed that - Good read - Thanks... Any plans for BiMaxx and how the hell had I missed SlimeWave?.... __________________ - Chaturbate Script - https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-b...er-issues.html - Now supports White Labels

11-03-2014, 04:46 AM	#12
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	Thanks for the read Roald, good info.

11-03-2014, 04:48 AM	#13
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Cliff notes? Kidding aside, interested in the payout for the cam site, gave the payout page a quick look but cams payout wasn't mentioned. Feel free to PM/ICQ me about it, if you don't wanna post it publicly. Thanks! __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

11-03-2014, 04:48 AM	#14
TeenCat Too lazy to set a koala Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: CZ/EU forever! Posts: 16,139	good reading, good to see you are all good at payserve except the free food keep up the good work! __________________ 6bot / Coming again very soon! Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

11-03-2014, 04:51 AM	#15
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11-03-2014, 04:56 AM	#16
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,531	Thanks for sharing your experience __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

11-03-2014, 05:05 AM	#17
ctggls Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 898	Nice reading Roald. You are among the few left here that I really enjoy reading when you have something to say. By the way, at 7.05 EST time , http://seventeenlive.com/ is down ...

11-03-2014, 05:22 AM	#18
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11-03-2014, 05:23 AM	#19
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11-03-2014, 05:29 AM	#20
Ramster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,447	Great read Roald and I'm sure things will be great for you and Payserve in 2015 __________________ Fcuk Cash - Backroom Casting Couch, ExCoGi, BlackAmbush DarkReach Cash - Top Pornstars & Sites Skype: robmurray999 Email: rob-at-paysitemanagers.com

11-03-2014, 05:35 AM	#21
fitzmulti I Like Depth Of Field! Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA: 36.12318 N, 115.090219 W Posts: 14,861	Very nice, Roald! Great insight and information! Have a great 2015!!! __________________ www.SexyGirlsCash.com CONTACT // FITZMULTI AT GMAIL.COM // {Please include a message so I know you are from GFY! I get too many spam "add requests"!}

11-03-2014, 05:38 AM	#22
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11-03-2014, 05:43 AM	#23
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11-03-2014, 06:14 AM	#24
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,374	Nice read man!

11-03-2014, 06:45 AM	#25
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	nice read mate I earned a lot of money with party hardcore over the years, right until they changed the tour to coincide with the tainster rollout, and it went to dog shit. Why the old tour(s) weren't kept up if the affiliate wanted to send to that tour(s) I'll never know program3 did the same with dancing bear, forcing the new tours even when using other tours' linking codes. Did the same as the PH changes and killed conversions for cfnm traffic. Thank fuck panda/penguin wiped out all my traffic anyway

11-03-2014, 07:38 AM	#27
wehateporn Promoting Debate on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 27,173	Great post Roald! __________________ Sexy Girls Teasing

11-03-2014, 07:46 AM	#29
FriendsForNow D2 215lb Final Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 535	Good read. Thx Roald.

11-03-2014, 07:55 AM	#30
biris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 118	I fell asleep...:p thanks for sharing man, this is the kind of posts that GFY needs! cheers, see you in Vegas! __________________ INTERNEXT EXPO email: [email protected] telegram: yorgosbiris

11-03-2014, 08:27 AM	#31
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	Now if we could just get you to write an educational article...;) __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]

11-03-2014, 08:34 AM	#32
Mark-G Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 167	Great post! Thank you for sharing

11-03-2014, 08:35 AM	#33
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11-03-2014, 08:50 AM	#34
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,697	Roald, As you know, I have an email box FULL of requests, changes, revisions, complete do-overs and strange routes from point A to point B that often included many extra steps or no follow through at all from the time when things were laid back and the vision was far from clear. I am really glad to see all the progress you have made in the last year. Putting the company on track and getting everyone moving in the same direction must have been quite a task, and you deserve a lot of credit for making it happen. The company always had a strong name and a huge content library, but changing focus as often as it did and having some people focused on completely unrelated goals or unwilling to complete projects that were already started by others was incredibly frustrating. Especially because the people involved were all very nice. Wanting to help or wanting to do well isn't enough without focus and follow through (with free sites or pay sites). Congrats on all the improvements you brought to payserve, and congrats even more on actually following through with those ideas all the way from start to finish. It's great to see. __________________ Website Secure \| Engine Food ICQ# 266-942-896

11-03-2014, 08:53 AM	#35
PAR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,835	Does this mean it's your turn to buy drinks in Vegas lol As for how the site looks on tablet etc.. You can replicate this with: https://developer.chrome.com/devtools/docs/device-mode

11-03-2014, 09:05 AM	#36
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11-03-2014, 09:22 AM	#37
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11-03-2014, 09:41 AM	#39
Mickey_ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Worldwide Posts: 4,238	The security camera was turned on in my office as I was reading your thread: You know what I *really* think, though. PayServe's already excellent crew grew with +1. Keep up the strong work, to infinity and beyond and thanks for sharing! ps. it's crazy a year has already passed. __________________ LifeSelector Affiliates - Make money today promoting the online porn of tomorrow. mb [at] lifeselector.com

11-03-2014, 10:04 AM	#40
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