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I might as well buy an iphone

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darn it, I was looking forward to have one though

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Cheaper at JB Hifi, especially if you take the recommended ask for a bargain or "can you do better than that because the Good Guys have them cheaper" approach.

That said, why on earth would you even consider one of these inferior phones when for a few bucks more you'll get an iPhone ?

djroof

in few months will be "old" and cheap

blinki bill

Is this the price from google play? Nexus phones are cheap but only if bought online directly from google, if you get it from anywhere else it will be as much as any other flagship phone

Ignorance is a blessing... maybe he likes the android experience more, also have you checked what nexus 6 is, this thing is probably the most powerful device on the market at the moment. Besides at present iPhone is inferior to most of the android flagships, for some reason apple refuses to catch up on processing power, ram memory and multitasking...

AdultKing

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to multitasking then iOS completely shits over Android. There is no comparison. iOS is basically OS X with a mobile interface. Android (even the latest releases) has appalling memory management and lots of inefficiency when it comes to multitasking.

Slick

It's all about the Droid Turbo ;) Such an amazing phone, although the battery hasn't been as super as I expected, but it's still amazing.

blinki bill

iOS is not OS X with mobile interface...
iOS have been behind on multitasking for ages, simply there is no true multitasking on iPhone, this is also one of the reasons why iPhones don't need more than two cores or more ram. I don't know if they finally allowed TRUE multitasking with iPhone 6, but even if they did it's playing catch up at this point, I don't know where you get the "completely shits over Android" part.

"iOS does not allow true multitasking for third party apps. iOS only allows certain APIs to run in the background, such as audio streaming and push notifications. An app stops running the instant the user switches to another app. Apple gives their own apps multitasking abilities that other apps are not allowed to use, which can cause confusion on this topic."

Again i don't know if they finally changed this with the latest iOS, but this has been the case since ever, this is one of the reasons why iPhones run smoothly with less horsepower.

AdultKing

Re-educate yourself, the base of iOS and OS X is Darwin (a flavour of BSD).

On top of that are the core frameworks, Core Foundation and Foundation.

Where they differ is the UI Toolkit is based on Cocoa Touch rather than Cocoa on OS X.

If you jailbreak an iOS device, add a terminal app and then run top you'll see much of the same processes running just like on any BSD distribution.

wehateporn

Nexus-6 have a built-in four-year lifespan according to Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_6

So, Tyrell added a "fail-safe device" to Nexus-6 models: a built-in four-year lifespan to prevent them from developing their own "emotional responses" and emergent independence. This was especially necessary for Mental-A models whose intellectual capacity at least matched those of their designers.

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Android is Linux with a mobile interface and if you see it that way, both IOS and Android base on Unix

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OSX - derived from FreeBSD
Android - derived from Linux

So it's the same 20 year old fight, just with different brand names.

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georgeyw

We always get ripped off in Australia, prices are always multiples of the rest of the world.

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venus

I have the turbo also, its an awesome phone, super quick, very happy with it

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blinki bill

You have to draw the line somewhere, otherwise if you start tracing back you end up with handful of operating systems and it seems like they are all the same, while they are not, very similar but yer different, there is a reason to why one forks something and creates another branch, it's usually not just re-branding...

Yes OS X and iOS are based on the same core but there are major differences, how resources are allocated for example, multitasking is also handled differently. You can't just say that it's the same operating system, then compare OS X to android and announce iPhone as the winner...

I use iPhone for testing and developing purposes only, and my actual devices are android. Android flagships are always super powerful, latest iPhone is also always supper packed, they all excel in different fields, the user experience is also completely different, what's better than the other depends on personal needs, not just for between iPhone and android but even for which android phone do you need. There isn't just a single winner that trumps everything else... despite what apple fans believe (and samsung fans nowadays too!)
You can't go with personal favorites, you have to be more objective (Apple fans were always declaring PowerPC as superior to all pc processors, right until the moment apple switched to intel, anyone remember that?)

crockett

I remember buying my Nexus 4 for $300 bucks.. That was awesome and the reason I bought it. Was a well featured phone for a reasonable price. Two models later they have doubled in price and now the pricing is on par with the top brand models.


I just can't see paying 600 or 700 for a phone that will be outdated in a year or two. I'm just too hard on phones to spend that much money on something I'll be lucky to have for 2 years before I manage to break it.. LoL

phypon

This guy knows exactly what he's talking about. I can't develop my app on iOS because of it's multitasking limitations. For certain apps, iOS handcuffs developers. In my opinion, it's an inferior OS model based on older, slow hardware. I believe the main reason for the iOS structure is to preserve resources, specifically battery consumption and it's spun as a security "feature".

Bill, have you tried swift for development on iOS?

candyflip

Uh...multitasking on iOS is shit compared to Android. You are talking out your ass, which has become quite commonplace for you.

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so expensive, wtf

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dyna mo

YOU obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

here, educate yourself:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...roid-and-ios/2

AdultKing

I have written complex apps for both platforms, unless my programming skills suck (which they don't) I can tell you that iOS provides better outcomes for programmers, the product and the users that use the product.

dyna mo

the article I cited specifically states that android allows for programmers to handle tasking while ios does not allow that whatsoever.

I appreciate both platforms and don't pick sides, android really does handle multitasking well.

blinki bill

not yet, I haven't been developing anything for iPhone in a while now

You obviously go to apple church, so reason is out the window on this subject...

It's still very nicely priced in UK and US, wonder why they bloated the price like that in Australia

AdultKing

Not really, I am currently working in my very limited spare time on a Raspberry Pi based Android App using transporter and additional hardware to take various video conference streams and display them in a matrix on a display while taking camera input via USB on the Pi.

Android is up to this job and so far the project works well, there's nothing Apple in this project.

The point I am trying to make, probably made badly, is that the frameworks made available for iOS are superior to Android when it comes to multitasking, thus it's easier for developers, results in more reliable applications which is in turn good for the end user.

crockett

I'd suspect it's something to do with the Australian govt because it's the same with things like Photoshop. I remember reading an article about the price of PS in Australia and they said it was cheaper to get a plane ticket to the US buy PS here than to just buy it outright in Aus.

rowan

PS CS2 (just Photoshop itself, not the whole creative suite) cost me just over $AUD900 around 9 or 10 years ago, which at the time would have been about $USD600-$USD750. Probably not quite enough to be able to afford a ticket to the USA plus pay for the software - maybe Asia somewhere?

Cost of living is higher in Australia, therefore they can charge more. I remember there being a big fuss last year about Adobe charging differential pricing for a *digital* product, one that costs exactly the same to deliver to the customer anywhere in the world. That's capitalism for you.