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Old 12-02-2014, 12:16 PM   #51
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Something to keep in mind with regards to Ramey Warrant's

This warrant is typically requested when a police officer feels that he may not have enough evidence for the district attorney to actually file the charges. He doesn’t want to take the chance that the district attorney will reject the case. So, if he can get a judge to issue a Ramey Warrant, he can then arrest the person and question them with the hope of obtaining enough information and sufficient evidence to present it to the District Attorney for filing. Basically, the officer’s hope is that, once they have the individual in their possession, they will get what they need to make their case and end up with the sufficient evidence needed to get the case filed.

So, the judge felt there was probable cause, but the police may not actually have all the evidence they need yet to file charges.


Now the charges:


The California Penal Code for Lewd Act on a Child under the age of 14 is 288a. Identifies and stipulates alleged victim is under 14 years old. No bail = No good.


(a) Except as provided in subdivision (i), any person who willfully and lewdly commits any lewd or lascivious act, including any of the acts constituting other crimes provided for in Part 1, upon or with the body, or any part or member thereof, of a child who is under the age of 14 years, with the intent of arousing, appealing to, or gratifying the lust, passions, or sexual desires of that person or the child, is guilty of a felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for three, six, or eight years.

The charge for oral copulation:

(c) (1) Any person who commits an act described in subdivision (a) with the intent described in that subdivision, and the victim is a child of 14 or 15 years, and that person is at least 10 years older than the child, is guilty of a public offense and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years, or by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year. In determining whether the person is at least 10 years older than the child, the difference in age shall be measured from the birth date of the person to the birth date of the child.


Unlawful Sexual Intercourse Charge:

261.5. (a) Unlawful sexual intercourse is an act of sexual
intercourse accomplished with a person who is not the spouse of the
perpetrator, if the person is a minor. For the purposes of this
section, a "minor" is a person under the age of 18 years and an
"adult" is a person who is at least 18 years of age.

(b) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is not more than three years older or
three years younger than the perpetrator, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

(c) Any person who engages in an act of unlawful sexual
intercourse with a minor who is more than three years younger than
the perpetrator is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and
shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year, or by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.

(d) Any person 21 years of age or older who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor who is under 16 years of age
is guilty of either a misdemeanor or a felony, and shall be punished
by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by
imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two,
three, or four years.

(e) (1) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, an
adult who engages in an act of sexual intercourse with a minor in
violation of this section may be liable for civil penalties in the
following amounts:

(A) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor less than two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed two thousand dollars ($2,000).

(B) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least two years younger than the adult is liable for
a civil penalty not to exceed five thousand dollars ($5,000).

(C) An adult who engages in an act of unlawful sexual intercourse
with a minor at least three years younger than the adult is liable
for a civil penalty not to exceed ten thousand dollars ($10,000).

(D) An adult over the age of 21 years who engages in an act of
unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor under 16 years of age is
liable for a civil penalty not to exceed twenty-five thousand dollars
($25,000).

(2) The district attorney may bring actions to recover civil
penalties pursuant to this subdivision. From the amounts collected
for each case, an amount equal to the costs of pursuing the action
shall be deposited with the treasurer of the county in which the
judgment was entered, and the remainder shall be deposited in the
Underage Pregnancy Prevention Fund, which is hereby created in the
State Treasury. Amounts deposited in the Underage Pregnancy
Prevention Fund may be used only for the purpose of preventing
underage pregnancy upon appropriation by the Legislature.

(3) In addition to any punishment imposed under this section, the
judge may assess a fine not to exceed seventy dollars ($70) against
any person who violates this section with the proceeds of this fine
to be used in accordance with Section 1463.23. The court shall,
however, take into consideration the defendant's ability to pay, and
no defendant shall be denied probation because of his or her
inability to pay the fine permitted under this subdivision.



Very ugly charges listed there on that Sutter County Sheriff's booking site.


Although Donny has been a pain in the ass to people here on GFY, I'd encourage folks to not jump to conclusions until the system and due process have their chance to play out.



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Old 12-02-2014, 12:19 PM   #52
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:28 PM   #54
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So you happened to be talking to your neighbor yesterday and asked him if a Donny Pauling had recently been arrested?
My wife and I were walking the dog this morning and we ran into him and talked for a bit. I sort of knew he was a cop but thought he was a K9 officer and I asked him about it, and he told me he was a Sheriff in Yuba City. My wife mentioned we used to know someone in Yuba City named Donny and that he was "real creepy" and.... He mentioned they had just arrested someone named Donny. When I mentioned his last name my neighbor quickly shut me down telling me he couldn't discuss arrests.

I put two and two together and.... Bingo.
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I think you'll find most of the info here:

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...m-reading.html

If not, there are some other threads linked within that thread that will shed more light on the past charges.
At a certain point in time doesn't the term "past charges" indicate a "pattern"?
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I'd encourage folks to not jump to conclusions until the system and due process have their chance to play out.
That's totally how the Internet, and this board in particular, works.
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So you happened to be talking to your neighbor yesterday and asked him if a Donny Pauling had recently been arrested?
Every time I see that sig, I chuckle a little.


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If any of this is true his career as traveling xxx jesus is over. Whats next?
If anything, it makes him MORE credible as a religious zealot.
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In Donny's defense, if he really did it, Satan probably made him.
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Although Donny has been a pain in the ass to people here on GFY, I'd encourage folks to not jump to conclusions until the system and due process have their chance to play out.
He has been arrested multiple times on these charges.... Seems to be a pattern.

Walks like a duck....
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What a fucking shame. I truly respect people who chose theological path and stand what they believe even when I disagry with the, But these fucks need ti get stiffer penalties because of how they prey on victims and farce they use. Fuck him and every other pedo priest.
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As much as I detest these phony Christians (people who capitalize momentarily on how gullible many Christians are) I have to say that these charges mean absolutely nothing the current climate where a female's simple accusation is enough for men to be arrested and prosecuted and even found guilty. Donny may in fact be the victim in this case. Let's wait until more info comes out to judge him. Again, I am not defending him I am saying that men often get their lives ruined by false allegations and just because you do not like someone is not a good reason to pile on and say "see I told you so".
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I didn't know what a Ramney Warrant was until you mentioned it. It seems to be a more serious warrant - meaning someone is a threat to society and bypass the district attorney and get an order from a judge to arrest someone.

If I recall correctly, this isn't the first time Donny has been charged with this? Seems like there was an ongoing investigation about these charges.
I spelled it wrong, it's Ramey.

The cop really has to sell it hard to a judge I believe
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I'd encourage folks to not jump to conclusions until the system and due process have their chance to play out
It's tough not to jump to conclusions, knowing Donny's unstable history, his creepy persona and these specific charges, LEWD ACT CHILD U14 Oral Copulation U14 Unlawful Intercourse.

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My wife mentioned we used to know someone in Yuba City named Donny and that he was "real creepy" and.... He mentioned they had just arrested someone named Donny.
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Doubt he'll show his face here again.
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He has been arrested multiple times on these charges.... Seems to be a pattern.

Walks like a duck....
Because he gets involved with some real cunts, convinced he can save them!

Drugged/drunk parent of kid Donny is trying to help causing a fuss because he wouldn't give her what she wanted. That's what happened last time no?

This is one that really has to wait for the courts, rather than assuming the worst.
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Because he gets involved with some real cunts, convinced he can save them!

Drugged/drunk parent of kid Donny is trying to help causing a fuss because he wouldn't give her what she wanted. That's what happened last time no?

This is one that really has to wait for the courts, rather than assuming the worst.
The plot thickens. (This will be entertaining.)

Let's just assume you aren't a fake nick and let's pretend we all know who you are and what you do in the industry, and let's ignore the fact that you signed up to GFY long after Donny left the industry and you could not possibly know him.... WTF are you talking about?
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I spelled it wrong, it's Ramey.

The cop really has to sell it hard to a judge I believe
It is used when they are thin in evidence and feel the DA won't file charges.
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As much as I detest these phony Christians (people who capitalize momentarily on how gullible many Christians are) I have to say that these charges mean absolutely nothing the current climate where a female's simple accusation is enough for men to be arrested and prosecuted and even found guilty. Donny may in fact be the victim in this case. Let's wait until more info comes out to judge him. Again, I am not defending him I am saying that men often get their lives ruined by false allegations and just because you do not like someone is not a good reason to pile on and say "see I told you so".
I agree 100%.

Let's not hang him just yet. Let's wait until he gets a fair trial and then we can hang him

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As much as I detest these phony Christians (people who capitalize momentarily on how gullible many Christians are) I have to say that these charges mean absolutely nothing the current climate where a female's simple accusation is enough for men to be arrested and prosecuted and even found guilty. Donny may in fact be the victim in this case. Let's wait until more info comes out to judge him. Again, I am not defending him I am saying that men often get their lives ruined by false allegations and just because you do not like someone is not a good reason to pile on and say "see I told you so".
While numbers vary, the actual percentage of false accusations for sexual assault is PROBABLY somewhere in the 2-10% range. It's also very hard to get a conviction based on ONLY a woman's testimony. It is POSSIBLE to be convicted, and I'm sure it happens, based on only one witness (the victim) and nothing else but it's certainly not the norm. More often than not there's some physical evidence, prior history, etc.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you must have been accused of something you didn't do because you seem very personally invested in this point of view. This isn't the first time you've said something along these lines.
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The plot thickens. (This will be entertaining.)

Let's just assume you aren't a fake nick and let's pretend we all know who you are and what you do in the industry, and let's ignore the fact that you signed up to GFY long after Donny left the industry and you could not possibly know him.... WTF are you talking about?
it's all here on GFY - just some people have a better memory/pay more attention
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It is used when they are thin in evidence and feel the DA won't file charges.
I thought it was just the opposite - Police believe someone is both a threat to society AND there is enough evidence to justify it. If the police believe the district attorney will not have the evidence to get a conviction they would not waste their time with it.
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I agree 100%.

Let's not hang him just yet. Let's wait until he gets a fair trial and then we can hang him

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Oh the irony - what could be more surprising than this coming from a fake born-again Christian crowd manipulating phony wannabe Bigot.

Anyway, let's not jump to conclusions, I'm a bit surprised this is available as a public record, considering the charges may not have been pressed yet.
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The plot thickens. (This will be entertaining.)

Let's just assume you aren't a fake nick and let's pretend we all know who you are and what you do in the industry, and let's ignore the fact that you signed up to GFY long after Donny left the industry and you could not possibly know him.... WTF are you talking about?


Manfap has been on contract with us as our designer/developer for 4-5 years now so yes - he is real.

Once again you assume/insinuate things and come off looking like a dumb cunt. Congrats!
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If anything, it makes him MORE credible as a religious zealot.
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Manfap has been on contract with us as our designer/developer for 4-5 years now so yes - he is real.

Once again you assume/insinuate things and come off looking like a dumb cunt. Congrats!
And who exactly are you?
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I vaguely remember something about it... I honestly don't recall the details.

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Looks like he's on the classic path of the born again religious kook, i guess this was the only thing still missing on his religious nutcase resume. Very creepy.
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Whether it's Michael Brown, Michael Jackson, Donny Pauling, or anyone else, they're all entitled to the benefit of the doubt, and innocence until proven guilty while law processes their case and finds evidence of wrong doing or exoneration.

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As much as I detest these phony Christians (people who capitalize momentarily on how gullible many Christians are) I have to say that these charges mean absolutely nothing the current climate where a female's simple accusation is enough for men to be arrested and prosecuted and even found guilty. Donny may in fact be the victim in this case. Let's wait until more info comes out to judge him. Again, I am not defending him I am saying that men often get their lives ruined by false allegations and just because you do not like someone is not a good reason to pile on and say "see I told you so".
It does happen a lot, but those cases normally involve touching children or similar. They don't file charges of 'unlawful intercourse' without physical evidence.
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At a certain point in time doesn't the term "past charges" indicate a "pattern"?
As I said earlier in the thread, "Where there's smoke, there's fire!"
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Maybe we can book him for an appearance from jail:

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Old 12-02-2014, 02:44 PM   #87
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It is used when they are thin in evidence and feel the DA won't file charges.
It's also used if they are still gathering evidence but feel the the suspect is a threat of some sort.
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I have a feeling that page won't be alive much longer.
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On the bright side Donny's drunken posts about "when Cuckolding goes wrong" don't seem so scandalous at this point.
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:02 PM   #91
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And who exactly are you?
The people I do business with know exactly who I am.

I almost felt sorry for you the other day when you posted your free pizza thread and a lot of people jumped in on it to bash you. Then I see other posts you make like the one I originally commented on in this thread and understand why it happens.
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If any of this is true his career as traveling xxx jesus is over. Whats next?
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Manfap has been on contract with us as our designer/developer for 4-5 years now so yes - he is real.

Once again you assume/insinuate things and come off looking like a dumb cunt. Congrats!
Thats Rochards mantra, he seems to think that if he does not know them they must not be in the industry. Yet he makes himself look like a fool. Well done Rochard you useless cunt.
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Holy shit, people still do that here? They really think that because they're not some highly known person on GFY, they're a nobody? Holy shit.

Atom is cool shit. (Even though he's a Vikings fan)
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It isn't a really big shock that people get alerted when things like this come out. Where I live, I can and am joined on mailing lists that alert me when sex offenders move near me - this is something I have done since I had my kids - when it comes to my kids, I want to know ALL tender spots and potential dangers I can possibly know and fortunately that is one of them - so I wasn't really shocked that someone would have notice about something like this to be honest.

As far as Donny, I don't know him from the next guy - so I have nothing to say about that - I just wanted to say I was a little confused why others were shocked that someone knows so quickly. Within 24 - 72 hours of a sex offender moves within 5 or so miles of me, I get alerts.
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Sure sure.

Do the people you do business know your employee is defending someone who publicly bashes our industry every chance he gets and is currently sitting in a jail cell with charges so serious they won't even let him out on bail?

How can anyone on this board defend him?
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Holy shit, people still do that here? They really think that because they're not some highly known person on GFY, they're a nobody? Holy shit.

Atom is cool shit. (Even though he's a Vikings fan)
If you just signed up in the past six months, have less than a thousand posts, don't have anything in your sig that tells me what you do.... I assume you are a fake nick.
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It isn't a really big shock that people get alerted when things like this come out. Where I live, I can and am joined on mailing lists that alert me when sex offenders move near me - this is something I have done since I had my kids - when it comes to my kids, I want to know ALL tender spots and potential dangers I can possibly know and fortunately that is one of them - so I wasn't really shocked that someone would have notice about something like this to be honest.

As far as Donny, I don't know him from the next guy - so I have nothing to say about that - I just wanted to say I was a little confused why others were shocked that someone knows so quickly. Within 24 - 72 hours of a sex offender moves within 5 or so miles of me, I get alerts.
you do cam show toots?
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