How would you guys react to someone telling your 5 year old there is no Santa?

[Phoenix]

So my oldest son is 5 years old and one of his friends fathers decided it was his duty to inform him that there is no Santa Claus. I think i am more upset than he is. I just can't believe the nerve of some people. Keep your beliefs to yourself and your family. This was going to be the best Christmas so far. My son was old enough to really start appreciating gifts and look forward to Santa visiting. Now he will inform his younger brother that there is no Santa also.

Usually it is some dickhead kid around age 8-9 who is the one to tell people. Instead it is some dickhead adult.

[SilentKnight]

Have Currentlysober take a steaming dump down the dude's chimney. Toss down a sticky-note saying, "Love, Santa."

[edgeprod]

I'd get WAY more upset if someone told my kids Jesus bullshit than disabused them of the Santa notion, but I agree that it isn't his place.

[kronic]

I'd tell my child that some people don't think santa is real because they've never had him visit because they're bad. Sounds stupid but you're dealing with young kids.

THEN I'd get on the phone with the other parent and let them know in no uncertain terms that it's MY job to raise my kids the way I see fit, and THEIRS to raise their own. I'd tell them to mind their own fucking business when it comes to instilling THEIR beliefs in MY kid.

[kronic]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

I'd get WAY more upset if someone told my kids Jesus bullshit than disabused them of the Santa notion, but I agree that it isn't his place.

If your kid is five years old and some fuckwad just destroyed the myth for them? I hope you're joking.

They have the rest of their lives to learn the truth about Jesus et al. This is about their childhood. Nothing more, nothing less.

[blackmonsters]

WTF

Just tell your kid that the guy who said that is Ebenezer Scrooge and move the fuck on.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by kronic

If your kid is five years old and some fuckwad just destroyed the myth for them? I hope you're joking.

They have the rest of their lives to learn the truth about Jesus et al. This is about their childhood. Nothing more, nothing less.

They're at their most impressionable at that age. If no one filled their heads with religious lies, and they were told at 18, they'd go "HAHAHAHA, that is fucking ridiculous". Getting them INTO religion is WAY more harmful than getting them OUT of Santa.

[Seth Manson]

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

[kronic]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

They're at their most impressionable at that age. If no one filled their heads with religious lies, and they were told at 18, they'd go "HAHAHAHA, that is fucking ridiculous". Getting them INTO religion is WAY more harmful than getting them OUT of Santa.

I respectfully disagree.

My wife and I agreed to let our kids choose their own religious path. By AGREED, I mean I agreed not to tell my kids organized religion is a farce lol.

Just like santa, at some point both my kids asked me what I thought, because I never spoke about religion. I looked at my wife and she gave me a resigned, polite nod, basically saying, "oh fuck, go ahead". So, I told them MY thoughts on religion.

A few years on and my son knows there's no god, but my daughter, who's a couple years younger, still believes in him. As a parent I feel I've done my job. I've allowed them to choose instead of force my own beliefs on them...the same way people who believe in god do.

Hopefully some day, my daughter will realize the truth, but if she doesn't, and it doesn't consume her life, so be it. There's worse things in life.

Some dickhead ruining the myth of santa for a five year old kid who's excited for Christmas, just days BEFORE Christmas is much worse IMO.

[Phoenix]

I am pissed off. Santa is the only imaginary character i let my kids believe in. I believe the magic that he brings to kids eyes is worth the lie.

This guy is an asshat, what sucks is we are supposed to be going to a resort to hang out for a few days around Christmas. I do not really want to have a confrontation because when he was younger they did not have Christmas in Korea. I just think commonsense should have dictated not to steal magic from little kids.

[edgeprod]

Originally Posted by kronic

I respectfully disagree.

My wife and I agreed to let our kids choose their own religious path. By AGREED, I mean I agreed not to tell my kids organized religion is a farce lol.

Just like santa, at some point both my kids asked me what I thought, because I never spoke about religion. I looked at my wife and she have me a resigned, polite nod, basically saying, "oh fuck, go ahead". So, I told them MY thoughts on religion.

A few years on and my son knows there's no god, but my daughter, who's a couple years younger, still believes on him. As a parent I feel I've done my job. I've allowed them to choose instead of force my own beliefs on them...the same way people who believe in god do.

Hopefully some day, my daughter will realize the truth, but if she doesn't, and it doesn't consume her life, so be it. There's worse things in life.

Some dickhead ruining the myth of santa for a five year old kid who's excited for Christmas, just days BEFORE Christmas is much worse IMO.

All valid points. I just am very sensitive to the harm religion does to kids, and then the harm those kids do to the rest of us later on.

[wehateporn]

Might try the 'Believe' thing and put Polar Express and Elf on, would say that adults stop believing and that's why they stop getting presents

[kronic]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I am pissed off. Santa is the only imaginary character i let my kids believe in. I believe the magic that he brings to kids eyes is worth the lie.

This guy is an asshat, what sucks is we are supposed to be going to a resort to hang out for a few days around Christmas. I do not really want to have a confrontation because when he was younger they did not have Christmas in Korea. I just think commonsense should have dictated not to steal magic from little kids.

So, take the guy aside and explain your thoughts on the matter. If he won't respect your reasoning when it comes to YOUR kids, and at LEAST agree to remain silent in front of your kids, fuck him and you don't have to respect HIM. Kick him in the nuts and tell him not to have any more santaless kids.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So my oldest son is 5 years old and one of his friends fathers decided it was his duty to inform him that there is no Santa Claus. I think i am more upset than he is. I just can't believe the nerve of some people. Keep your beliefs to yourself and your family. This was going to be the best Christmas so far. My son was old enough to really start appreciating gifts and look forward to Santa visiting. Now he will inform his younger brother that there is no Santa also.

Usually it is some dickhead kid around age 8-9 who is the one to tell people. Instead it is some dickhead adult.

A mate of mines older brother ruined it for me, I still remember that.

Have you talked to the father?

[ManuteBol]

Time to cyberthug, remember that dude from a few years ago, lol.

[Spunky]

Well to be honest he is going to find out sooner or later

[MiamiBoyz]

Good for him!

What fucking 5 year old still believes in Santa unless their parents keep them chained in the basement anyway?

Parents do their children a disservice by perpetuating those stupid fantasies and the sooner they are dispelled the better.

[kane]

When my brother was 7 a kid named Brian at school told him that his dad was Santa. My brother didn't believe him at first, but then the kid explained that he got up late Christmas Eve and saw his dad putting gifts under the tree so his dad must be Santa. That was enough evidence for my brother. He came home and told me (I'm a year younger) that Brian's dad was Santa. I was upset and ask my mom why his dad was Santa. She had no good answer and tired to blow it off, but my brother was hell bent on telling everyone that his friend's dad was Santa so at that point, the cat was out of the bag and she explained to us that there was no Santa.

So them my brother took it to the other extreme. Having had it ruined for him, he protected his son from it so the kid was like 11 years old and still believed in Santa. My brother didn't have the heart to tell him. I told my brother that the boy is being made fun of he needs to know the truth. When my brother finally told him the kids reaction was to ask, "Why did you lie all these years?"

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz

Good for him!

What fucking 5 year old still believes in Santa unless their parents keep them chained in the basement anyway?

Parents do their children a disservice by perpetuating those stupid fantasies and the sooner they are dispelled the better.

spoken like someone who never has had (or will have) kids and has very little (if any) contact with them.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I am pissed off. Santa is the only imaginary character i let my kids believe in. I believe the magic that he brings to kids eyes is worth the lie.

This guy is an asshat, what sucks is we are supposed to be going to a resort to hang out for a few days around Christmas. I do not really want to have a confrontation because when he was younger they did not have Christmas in Korea. I just think commonsense should have dictated not to steal magic from little kids.

asians never let their kids have any fun. its no surprise.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Have Currentlysober take a steaming dump down the dude's chimney. Toss down a sticky-note saying, "Love, Santa."

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

Both Winners

Watched a dog the bounty hunter episode once where he hunted Santa to prove he was real for one of his kids.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

[O MARINA]

At age 5 children should still believe Santa exists. That's the beauty of it, innocence.
What a dumbass that man is.

[xXXtesy10]

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

asians never let their kids have any fun. its no surprise.

racialist

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

This guy is an asshat, what sucks is we are supposed to be going to a resort to hang out for a few days around Christmas. I do not really want to have a confrontation because at heart I am just a big bitch. Instead of saying anything I'm going to stare at my feet and passive aggressively mutter to myself instead.

I went ahead and fixed that up for you.

[L-Pink]

Tell him bullshit, there is too a Santa and his gifts get better every year.

Have him call his uncle L-Pink and I'll talk to him.





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[Relentless]

Tell your son that guy is a chronic liar who cheats on his wife and it is the primary his son will never amount to much. Then let that guy try to explain all that to his son the way he tried to explain Santa to your son.

Problem solved.

[brassmonkey]

its bad because thats not the reason for the holiday.

[pornmasta]

i don't have children but i wouldn't never tell them that Santa Claus could be true...

oh yeah, for me christmas is nothing else that an occasion to eat more chocolate...

[tommy730]

I wouldn't be all distressed. A son should believe his Father more than anyone else. I'd just tell him his friend's father was full of shit and he goes around badmouthing Santa cuz all he got was coal for Christmas. Problem solved, case closed.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

I am pissed off. Santa is the only imaginary character i let my kids believe in. I believe the magic that he brings to kids eyes is worth the lie.

This guy is an asshat, what sucks is we are supposed to be going to a resort to hang out for a few days around Christmas. I do not really want to have a confrontation because when he was younger they did not have Christmas in Korea. I just think commonsense should have dictated not to steal magic from little kids.

Ah, now I get it, he's Korean. I would tell them you are suddenly busy then do something else. It's only going to go downhill from here. He doesn't give a shit about what you think.

Funny, we were talking about this last night. Have a niece and nephew, 3 and 5. Trying to decide how far to go with the Santa thing. Personally, I'm into it because, imho, it helps to instill imagination, it's fun, and it's not hurting anyone. Let children be children and not little adults. Sick of that crap.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by WarChild

I went ahead and fixed that up for you.

LOl
I don't think you and I have ever met. Nor do i think you know me very well.

I have already confronted him and his wife. Which caused a massive fight with my wife.
Then i hit the gym to cool off and treated myself to a million calorie coffee from Starbucks.

I am glad you think of me though.
I think I can fix it by going to the only mall Santa in all of Korea on the weekend.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Ah, now I get it, he's Korean. I would tell them you are suddenly busy then do something else. It's only going to go downhill from here. He doesn't give a shit about what you think.

Funny, we were talking about this last night. Have a niece and nephew, 3 and 5. Trying to decide how far to go with the Santa thing. Personally, I'm into it because, imho, it helps to instill imagination, it's fun, and it's not hurting anyone. Let children be children and not little adults. Sick of that crap.

Koreans really do not give a shit about anyone else. That is 100% right.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Koreans really do not give a shit about anyone else. That is 100% right.

I applaud you for trying. I just could not deal with that on a day to day basis.

[kittykatt]

Show your son Rise of the Guardians and tell him that asshole is the real life pitch black. That way at least the situation is salvaged somewhat. Then, for retaliation, find out that guys address and on christmas eve wrap up a box full of dog shit with a note about the naughty list and leave it on his doorstep

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Koreans really do not give a shit about anyone else. That is 100% right.

You have support e-mail.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

You have support e-mail.

I do not see it..i will keep an eye out though

[gebu]

I got my first job when I was 5. Worked at a sheet metal factory...

[JesseQuinn]

my parents told me from the get-go that Santa was a fictitious tradition that evolved to enhance collective generosity in order to assuage class guilt. Possibly inspired by imbibers of magic mushrooms (of which I am a huge fan btw). They also explained to me the coca coal/crass commercialism version of St. Nick/ Xmas to give me the full context of how much people will co-opt anything to grind the dollars. We had some deep convos about it each year, I think that was our version of cookies left out for an over-stuffed elf, talking the sociology and politics of what we know as 'Christmas'.

My parents never talked down to me or lied to me about stupid ish like flying reindeer and I don't feel like I missed out on anything.

The point is when you're a kid xmas rocks either way. you get cool stuff, you get to be surrounded by peeps you love, whether Santa 'exists' or not. I still felt the magic in the air, knowing my fav aunt was flying in to visit us, that I'd get some wicked gifts under the tree even if my family put them there.

Sure it was sh!tty of someone to out the ruse to your kids but I guess the question in my head is why lie to your kids in the first place? I don't see why it's necessary but for parent's own indulgence? my fav childhood memories of xmas are spending time with peeps I love, who love me. Why some of y'all parental sorts feel the need to build the event into something 'magical' for the little ones confuses me; there's nothing more meaningful than spending time with those that we love. Even kids grasp that, don't underestimate them.

[TeenCat]

"oh man, you are a piece of dick, now whole family without xmas presents, thanks alot!"

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by JesseQuinn

my parents told me from the get-go that Santa was a fictitious tradition that evolved to enhance collective generosity in order to assuage class guilt. Possibly inspired by imbibers of magic mushrooms (of which I am a huge fan btw). They also explained to me the coca coal/crass commercialism version of St. Nick/ Xmas to give me the full context of how much people will co-opt anything to grind the dollars. We had some deep convos about it each year, I think that was our version of cookies left out for an over-stuffed elf, talking the sociology and politics of what we know as 'Christmas'.

My parents never talked down to me or lied to me about stupid ish like flying reindeer and I don't feel like I missed out on anything.

The point is when you're a kid xmas rocks either way. you get cool stuff, you get to be surrounded by peeps you love, whether Santa 'exists' or not. I still felt the magic in the air, knowing my fav aunt was flying in to visit us, that I'd get some wicked gifts under the tree even if my family put them there.

Sure it was sh!tty of someone to out the ruse to your kids but I guess the question in my head is why lie to your kids in the first place? I don't see why it's necessary but for parent's own indulgence? my fav childhood memories of xmas are spending time with peeps I love, who love me. Why some of y'all parental sorts feel the need to build the event into something 'magical' for the little ones confuses me; there's nothing more meaningful than spending time with those that we love. Even kids grasp that, don't underestimate them.

Maybe it is for me. I do not see the harm in believing in a bit of magic at such a young age. I am rather shocked that at 5 years old you were able to have such serious conversations and have them mean anything to you in later life.

I guess you are quite smart, so even though English is your second language you use it quite well. I realize of course that Christmas is a commercialized holiday, I just do not care. I want to see the magic in my kids eyes, I want to hear the excitement. I want them to believe in something for awhile.

We get a bit cynical when we get older, I want to keep some sort of magic in their life while I can.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

LOL !!! win.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

How would you guys react to someone telling your 5 year old there is no Santa?

I know there is no Santa (in Russia it's Ded Moroz) when I was 3 year old

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Maybe it is for me. I do not see the harm in believing in a bit of magic at such a young age. I am rather shocked that at 5 years old you were able to have such serious conversations and have them mean anything to you in later life.

I guess you are quite smart, so even though English is your second language you use it quite well. I realize of course that Christmas is a commercialized holiday, I just do not care. I want to see the magic in my kids eyes, I want to hear the excitement. I want them to believe in something for awhile.

We get a bit cynical when we get older, I want to keep some sort of magic in their life while I can.

English is my first language, I was born and raised in Canada. I just romp around in the Caribbean now because I can. I'm also old as fuck (adult industry-wise), so in terms of predisposition towards cynicism I can't feel you there. Idealism mends it's merry way...

In terms of my family we're all academics and nerds (an inherited trait) so we get along well, and my earliest convos with them on all topics pushed and prompted me but never beyond my limits. From my earliest memories of my family we have always talked politics, when we're not laughing that's what we do. Remembering those convos isn't an ordeal.

I get what you mean about wanting to see magic in your kids eyes, so squeeze your eyes tight yourself and see what you remember about your early xmas years...is it a fictitious elf or is it the moments you shared with your loved ones? I'm not a betting woman but I would guess it would be the latter?

For sure, my parents had a somewhat unorthodox technique in raising me, but I think some principles hold true regardless. 5, 10, 20 etc years from now all your kids will recall about the early years of your holidays shared together is your place in 'em. Not 'Santa', just your family coming together to create the the magic of the moment.

My point is, while I think trying to pretend that Santa exists is strange, your choice in disclosing (or withholding) the truth is blown. Due to an outsider that ship has sailed, cover blown. Completely unacceptable, I agree. You choose what's best for your children, not an outsider. That said, now that the proverbial ship has sailed maybe you can introduce them to a new version of Christmas that's rooted in the real world magic of having loving and caring people with whom to share the moment?

Your children can still have an xmas filled with magic, even without the elf. Sure you can lie to them, create cover stories for why your neighbor would speak such heresy but for real, why not take this as an opportunity to tell and show what the season should really be about?

Just my

as I stated above you have been the wronged party here so I wish you a wicked holiday however you proceed.

Kuwa na Krismasi njema

[DamageX]

Originally Posted by kronic

I'd tell my child that some people don't think santa is real because they've never had him visit because they're bad. Sounds stupid but you're dealing with young kids.

THEN I'd get on the phone with the other parent and let them know in no uncertain terms that it's MY job to raise my kids the way I see fit, and THEIRS to raise their own. I'd tell them to mind their own fucking business when it comes to instilling THEIR beliefs in MY kid.

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Tell his kids that their dad really isnt their dad.

These two combined.

Then bitchslap the fuck out of him next time you meet him. As a bonus.

[killerbunny]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

WTF

Just tell your kid that the guy who said that is Ebenezer Scrooge and move the fuck on.

hahahahahahahaah

[C4W]

Thats really stuped and non of his buiesness.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

LOl
I don't think you and I have ever met. Nor do i think you know me very well.

I have already confronted him and his wife. Which caused a massive fight with my wife.
Then i hit the gym to cool off and treated myself to a million calorie coffee from Starbucks.

I am glad you think of me though.
I think I can fix it by going to the only mall Santa in all of Korea on the weekend.

I'm not taking sides here but when defending yourself against "bitch" accusations You should leave out the part about treating yourself to a million calorie coffee from Starbucks for crisis management.