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Are you making money from Clips4Sale?
I'm thinking of putting some of my shemale videos for sale there. Pretty shemales like AnaTranny.com, AngelesCid.com, PercyPrincess.com, etc. Will it be worth it?
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Give it a try. It's differant for every studio but with your content you should be golden. Try a dozen clips or so and see.
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I was also curious if it's worth investing the time into making a clips4sale. back in 2009 when you added a video you would get at least 400 hits every time. but last I tried a couple years ago it was more like 4 hits. If I have to bring my own traffic, I'll just send it to my real sites.
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I get sales when I constantly add new videos. Aside from that, I don't do much.
I have a friend who still does quite a bit, but he sells some wacky shit. |
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I still make $$ from it...not like in 2006 - 2008...but, it's worth it...money is money...especially if it is "extra monetization".
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Depends on if you value your time.
Totally not worth it if you do. If you work for free, then you will be happy with the pittance they send.
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buying one 8 min video for 9 bucks, then another 5 min video for $6... and so on...
OR... watching endless hours of video in every niche imaginable without spending a dime. Clips4Sale vs. Tubes4Free |
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Agreed only worth the time if you use grunts to run it. Also you'll make a little off type ins too
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I've sent you a PM czarina
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the only problem in your theory is, that: most of clips4sale content isnt at the tubes and it is so great that top studios are probably making xxxx $ a day....
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Load up a bunch of clips..
Then scheduled new ones to go live.. have a look at how the system treats new videos etc and sort out a scheduled of releases. Over time you will find that time of day and day of the week matter. After your first mass release of clips to give the users a little selection to grab more than 1 offering.. I wouldn't release more than 1 video at a time. |
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Not really.
Sure there is money but not much. The top stored make good $ but most are producers or models so content is cheap amd easy to make $ |
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I only know that this is fucking awesome content - however not all the girls are good [enough]:
http://clips4sale.com/studio/7373 If this would be a paysite I would join. But as far as I see, here I need to buy every scene individually. Or I am retarded and this is non-exclusive content for paysites?
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It depends on a lot of factors and expectations.
I have stores I have not updated in years still getting me some sales every month that I am not promoting in anyway beyond having a clip store set up. Do I make pre-2008 revenues? No. But I am also not updating 3-5 stores five days a week either. The value to me with clip stores was always a secondary revenue stream and driving traffic. Additionally, I did not lose those buyers who wanted a single clip versus a membership. Considering it literally takes you 5-10 minutes(15 if you include the drag and drop of videos, and ftp) of REAL WORK (i.e. your manual labor of typing up a description, etc) to update a clip store(s) and you can make a decent chunk of money by real world standards, I would say that it's a decent time investment for many folks in the real world. Maybe not so the bawlas for adult porn lore bathing in fiddies. ![]() |
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Thanks for your input, guys. I'll give it a try. I have almost 100,000 videos so it'll take me a few days to decide which ones to start with, but I'm definitely doing it. Even if it's not a lot of money, I should get some type ins ;)
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Like already said you have to add videos consistently in order to make decent money.
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I Like Depth Of Field!
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You can also try http://www.adultvideos.com, they pay 70% rev share.
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C4S is all about constantly keeping your stores on the front page by updating frequently, to attract the typeins to your paysites.
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nope i am not making any money from them
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I have been using C4S for over ten years now and have no less then 30 stores.
Of the top 15 niches we do 7 of them a lot. I can say this thread is a good example of people who do not have a clue and just talk out their ass like they know it all LOL
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We still make sales on our clips4sale gspotproductions account
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I sell gay clips and make good money. Must be good niche.
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Clips 4 Sale is awesome. Always consistent monthly sales for me. I don't know why one wouldn't give it a shot. I wish I had started back in 2006-2008.
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have to give a try
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UPDATE: I promised I'd post my results here, so:
I made about 2 sales a day for the first 7 days, when my store was in the New Stores list. After that, not a single sale, despite having updated it almost every day for the first couple of weeks. |
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welcome back czarina
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keep making new stores...
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Not a ton of money but yes, selling my stores though.
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What niche is the content? Store link? The NaughtyRob fire sale. |
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Theres like 100k studios on c4s , probably % 1 make money and wayyyyy less than that make real money.
Im sure all the gfy tin foilers will see conspiracy all over that breakdo. |
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What niches? I understand standard porn does not sell, you need fetish niches.
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C4S is a good place for secondary monetization as has been pointed out. There were things you could do to double or triple your sales quite easily but new rules have shut those opportunities.
Neil for some reason holds fast to NOT expanding the number of videos listed on the front page and the way it is now it doesnt benefit the people who update their stores frequently, at best you will stay on page one for an hour. A better move would be to list every studio that has updated on that day and make the listing dynamic but for some reason he always rejects that Idea and says just update more... I do alright on C4S but not as well as I used to, its still worth doing though....It could be made a LOT better.
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Goodluck
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As affiliate, I don't promote sites that also sell on clips 4 sale.
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I drag a video into my software to render it, ten seconds the software does the rest. Once done, I drag it into an ftp, what's that? Ten seconds. Once uploaded I check off a few boxes, cut and paste a description from spreadsheet and schedule updates for the day? Yeah, ten minutes of work might be pushing it. If you can make even a few hundred dollars of extra cash per store for ten minutes of work, that is easy money. Quote:
A lot more competition than the 'good ole days', but even old rerun content still converts. Assuming of course it's a fetish niche. I have heard hardcore doesn't do as well, and is better suited for one of the other sites. That being said, I have always used C4S as secondary income and to drive sales to my pay site. I bounce traffic back and forth for those who come to site, but only want one clip, or those penny pinchers who want hundreds of clips for $30 versus one clip for $10. |
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How many vids did you add to launch with? What kind of traffic did you get during that first week, and did you notice sales from your paysites going up?
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No no no thats not how any of this goes!
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I tried the images version and made dickall.
I know a number of models who put clips up there. Most make nothing, but if know one who does well with a lot of JOI and incest stuff.
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"It's not needed. You can go to any particular niche, and it will show those stores updated for that day there. Which I would assume is what most people do. I know when I am looking for videos, I only care about my particular niches of interest. Not about a bunch of shit I do not care about."
Thats where we disagree....because that is NOT how the site is used and I have years of numbers to prove that. being on that front page as czarina pointed out is the difference between sales and no sales. when I kept my store on the front page for 12 hrs every day I would get 4-5 times more sales plain and simple...it was very consistent and which store didnt matter.
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Let's continue this study.... lol
Czarina, how many hours did you spend setting everything up? How many stores and how many clips are for sale now? How much money have you been paid? Do you feel like it has been worth your efforts?
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