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Old 01-25-2015, 11:43 AM   #1
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I really really really really really really really want to know what my competitors sales are

My competitor has been around since 2001 and just about everyone who likes the niche is on his site.
Knowing how much money his site earned in 2014 would be a big help to me in knowing what my potential earnings could be or if I should give up and move to something else.
Is there any trick of knowing what his site made? Like public records or something? He lives in Spain. Yes I'm serious, knowing how much it made would be life changing for me
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:45 AM   #2
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what niche? how much traffic?
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Old 01-25-2015, 11:53 AM   #3
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I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

You would need to know:

Daily traffic
Daily sales
Conversion ratio
Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

Good luck man!
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:23 PM   #4
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If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:48 PM   #5
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Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:10 PM   #6
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become an affiliate and see how well their conversion is and guess their traffic from Alexa and extrapolate from that info
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:19 PM   #7
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Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL
Great advice thanks

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If it's a spanish company you can try a service like Información de empresas | Informes de empresas | Datos de empresas y registros empresas - eInforma they give you reports on company info, dunno how accurate they are but they do mention financials
Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:03 PM   #8
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... its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.
How does The Hun make money?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. LOL)
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Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
please do not encourage
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:14 PM   #10
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:48 PM   #11
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Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:57 PM   #12
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please do not encourage
I tried to find his address so I could go on google maps and see if he lived in a nice house or a shitty one
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:10 PM   #13
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pretend to be an interested buyer and get all the financials.
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:52 PM   #14
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Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.
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Old 01-25-2015, 06:25 PM   #15
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Why not just send an email to the owner? The worst they can do is tell you to go fuck yourself. And then who cares.
the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol
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Old 01-25-2015, 10:31 PM   #16
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So would everyone.

If you already treated him badly, he isn't going to give you his financials and, if it is not a public company, they won't just be out there for you to see.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:25 AM   #17
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I am sorry but there is simply no way to tell what a site earns by looking at public records or even Alexa rankings.

You would need to know:

Daily traffic
Daily sales
Conversion ratio
Where the traffic is coming from (paid or organic)
If paid traffic how much is he spending to get his sales?

Bottom line is if you are not excited about the niche, or are worried about your site's earning potential compared to someone else, then your focus is not where it should be. Competition is one thing but what I focus on is what can I do to make profits. At the end of the day I don't care what someone else is earning because I can't tell anyway. LOL

Just assume he is making shit and you will kill it. If you are not happy with the money you are bringing in then that's the only real issue.

Good luck man!
I agree. There's NO WAY one will expose his earnings for public display. If you were in his shoes, will you do that? Of course NOT.
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Old 01-26-2015, 07:43 AM   #18
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Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
Best answer.
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Consult a psychic.

I have a brother-in-law who found out from a psychic the wife and I referred him to that he had a sister living in Florida.

Turns out that his father stole him from his mother, sold him to another couple and ended up moving to the Chicago suburbs. He had blocked it all out with the exception of having strange dreams and a vague notion he used to have brother.

No bullshit.
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Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:10 AM   #21
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Awesome thanks! I checked and unfortunately he doesnt have a company name or anything, its kind of like TheHun, it looks more like a hobby website.
That's illegal in Spain. If the site makes any $ you have to have atleast your personal info (autonomous registration number) on the site.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:49 AM   #22
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the owner hates me because when I started my site I went on his site and wrote to some of his members to check out my site. since then if anyone mentions my site on his they get banned lol
Well I hope you learned your lesson. Stealing customers is bad. Don't do that shit.

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Old 01-26-2015, 12:24 PM   #23
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Tell me your competitor i may be able to give you an idea
Can I write to you in private? Dont want to post it here
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Break into their office and steal their computers...you will probably find the answers you seek.

If it's good enough for the government then it's good enough for you.
HAHA! Best answer ....

Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.
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HAHA! Best answer ....

Said otherwise: Counting other peoples money is mental masturbation.
I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money
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I want to know if he's making movie-money or life changing money
Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...
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Check out his servers and their data center -- if the website is not on dedicated servers he doesn't think it is worth a few hundred or more a month for IT. I would consider that if you need a starting point ...
What a great idea. I didnt even think of that. Knowing how many servers he runs gives me a better idea at how well he's doing. thanks
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How does The Hun make money?

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I have a hunch that someone kind of wants to know something from this thread tittle
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