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Old 01-26-2015, 03:43 AM   #1
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:2cents Billing processors for small paysite networks/aff programs?

Any recommendations for what the hottest billing processors are nowadays? New ones are okay too... I want to see my options.

I prefer listing those that accept clients with a lower volume in sales, as it's for something new. Thanks in advance for the help
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Online Merchants Benefit Using Epoch's International Payment Processing Services

Epoch enables your online business to accept many more payment types than you could with your own merchant account. By accepting dozens of different international, regional, and local payment types, international customers can increase your sales significantly.

We provide provide our clients with state-of-the-art payment forms and other features such as our proprietary marketing tool, Logo GPS, a localization feature which addresses your international customers based on their location.

Our Smart Payment Forms are custom generated for each transaction and address each customer in their language, the currency of their location, and with payment options popular in their region.

Epoch does not charge any type of reserve withholding or security deposit which means you keep more of your money from day one.

Our risk management team monitors your sales and manages your portfolio to ensure you remain within card association thresholds with regard to credits and chargebacks, domestic and foreign. The level of granularity in this area ensures that your overall portfolio performs at its highest possible level.

We provide 24/7/365 support to your customers in virtually every language by phone, chat, and email.

Epoch provides 24/7/365 technical support should you have a problem with your password scripts or need assistance with any billing issues.

Every client is assigned a personal account representative who monitors your account and is there to answer any questions you may have.

Our position as one of the most experienced payment service providers of digital content provides a considerable advantage to your online business with its proprietary fraud filtering systems and data analysis.


If you have any questions, feel free to hit me up any time.
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Online Merchants Benefit Using Epoch's International Payment Processing Services

Epoch enables your online business to accept many more payment types than you could with your own merchant account. By accepting dozens of different international, regional, and local payment types, international customers can increase your sales significantly.

We provide provide our clients with state-of-the-art payment forms and other features such as our proprietary marketing tool, Logo GPS, a localization feature which addresses your international customers based on their location.

Our Smart Payment Forms are custom generated for each transaction and address each customer in their language, the currency of their location, and with payment options popular in their region.

Epoch does not charge any type of reserve withholding or security deposit which means you keep more of your money from day one.

Our risk management team monitors your sales and manages your portfolio to ensure you remain within card association thresholds with regard to credits and chargebacks, domestic and foreign. The level of granularity in this area ensures that your overall portfolio performs at its highest possible level.

We provide 24/7/365 support to your customers in virtually every language by phone, chat, and email.

Epoch provides 24/7/365 technical support should you have a problem with your password scripts or need assistance with any billing issues.

Every client is assigned a personal account representative who monitors your account and is there to answer any questions you may have.

Our position as one of the most experienced payment service providers of digital content provides a considerable advantage to your online business with its proprietary fraud filtering systems and data analysis.


If you have any questions, feel free to hit me up any time.

Where is your PayPal " doohickey" info? Verotel man here says you are not linked up yet???
So what's the scoop ?
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Where is your PayPal " doohickey" info? Verotel man here says you are not linked up yet???
So what's the scoop ?
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Nice press release, but could not find it on your website, am I blind ?

Is there a link ?
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Your mileage may vary, but, in my experience, Verotel do not pay.
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Nice press release, but could not find it on your website, am I blind ?

Is there a link ?

Click the link in my post. The line that says consider your source.

Or click here.
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Thanks for the props man!

Yes send me an email and I can make you an offer.

We have been in the biz since 1998 and can offer you with the ability to accept all major credit cards, ACH, Direct Debit EU, and Bitcoin.
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Click the link in my post. The line that says consider your source.

Or click here.

As I said nice press release ( I saw it before i made that post). But I did look at your website and there is no mention of it. Verotel man may be right
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How hard is to post a link to PayPal working with Epoch instead keep referring to a press release and making fun from somebody who is really trying hard to make it right. This condescending attitude will not help you with many around here who are really trying to improve their business. I for one looked and looked and not a " peep" on Epoch site about PayPal I could find.

If a blind man tries to cross the street you should give him a hand, NOT tell him he should stay home !!!! I guess Verotel man is right that it is some sort of experiment. My view its all Epoch BS...

... Or are you man enough to clarify it , instead of making quotes????

I can recite a quote if you wish....but not for now I want to keep it friendly.
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How hard is to post a link to PayPal working with Epoch instead keep referring to a press release and making fun from somebody who is really trying hard to make it right. This condescending attitude will not help you with many around here who are really trying to improve their business. I for one looked and looked and not a " peep" on Epoch site about PayPal I could find.

If a blind man tries to cross the street you should give him a hand, NOT tell him he should stay home !!!! I guess Verotel man is right that it is some sort of experiment. My view its all Epoch BS...

... Or are you man enough to clarify it , instead of making quotes????

I can recite a quote if you wish....but not for now I want to keep it friendly.
What the fuck do you want you fucking idiot? He just gave you a page with a massive, standalone link that says "login to activate paypal" as evidence that they work with paypal.

Jesus man... how fucking retarded are you?

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How hard is to post a link to PayPal working with Epoch instead keep referring to a press release and making fun from somebody who is really trying hard to make it right. This condescending attitude will not help you with many around here who are really trying to improve their business. I for one looked and looked and not a " peep" on Epoch site about PayPal I could find.

If a blind man tries to cross the street you should give him a hand, NOT tell him he should stay home !!!! I guess Verotel man is right that it is some sort of experiment. My view its all Epoch BS...

... Or are you man enough to clarify it , instead of making quotes????

I can recite a quote if you wish....but not for now I want to keep it friendly.
Perhaps you should try to join/purchase a site that uses Epoch? If I try to buy tokens at MFC through Epoch, I can now choose PayPal.

Thanks Epoch!
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What the fuck do you want you fucking idiot? He just gave you a page with a massive, standalone link that says "login to activate paypal" as evidence that they work with paypal.

Jesus man... how fucking retarded are you?

Dumbass.
Dear me, how the fuck can login when I am with CCbill and not with Epoch Einstein?

I did ask a simple question but morons like you are either pushing this bull shit or cannot read.....probably the latter. Maybe your bird brain can explain this " small issue". Because your have no concept of reality please let me know how can I log in to something I am not a member of. Only then I will apologise to you, until then stop promoting a Flat Earth Society.
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Perhaps you should try to join/purchase a site that uses Epoch? If I try to buy tokens at MFC through Epoch, I can now choose PayPal.

Thanks Epoch!
I have a site for over 8 years, we did look at Epoch years ago, even had a PayPal until we got caught. I am not trying to buy anything I am trying to integrate PayPal into our system.
I am not in business buying failed websites i have my own doing rather well but which
would do a lot better if it had Paypal.
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I have a site for over 8 years, we did look at Epoch years ago, even had a PayPal until we got caught. I am not trying to buy anything I am trying to integrate PayPal into our system.
I am not in business buying failed websites i have my own doing rather well but which
would do a lot better if it had Paypal.
This is a troll, right?

Nobody in this business could possibly think someone suggesting testing by buying MFC tokens was suggesting you buy a "failed website".

And nobody with a clue could think Epoch, with its stature in the industry, needs to do anything more to prove they process PayPal.
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This is a troll, right?
....nobody with a clue could think Epoch, with its stature in the industry, needs to do anything more to prove they process PayPal.
There are so many idiots who subscribe to the old adage :" too big to fail" ( never mind "too big to lie")....

.... to that end I have some shares in Lehman Brothers or safely invested with Bernie Madoff. I can sell them to you cheap. But if you prefer something closer to the government safety I also have an access to some Fannie May and Freddie Mac securities. These outfits have a great "stature in the industry" and do not need to prove anything to anybody, especially not to some trolls who are asking questions for a long time. ( I am making it in present tense since you may have to google this stuff to comprehend the irony of it).

I said, that I cannot log in because I do not process with them, so what is the big deal showing me their link, maybe I will ask Bernie how he hid stuff for so long.

As to you insulting me ? Maybe there are more "trolls" here NOT currently with Epoch who would like to see what the deal is. As for me, you sound like some low end operative for them. Feel free to heap more shit , I still want to know what the deal is, but NOT from some fucked press release or some phoney page asking me to log in to get a big prize in some irish lottery or inheritance form some dead Nigerian....

or maybe admit that they and PayPal are scared shitless for the Joe Public to know that you can join " Gaping fisted teen assholes.com " using PayPal. Even I would understand.

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Perhaps you should try to join/purchase a site that uses Epoch? If I try to buy tokens at MFC through Epoch, I can now choose PayPal.

Thanks Epoch!
...and why would I buy some skunky site which is using Epoch, I have my own and am with CCBill but they have no Pay Pal. Can you read what I have asked I had Pay Pal for a few months here and there but was always reported probably by the same asseholes now trying to sell me some skunky site....
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...and why would I buy some skunky site which is using Epoch, I have my own and am with CCBill but they have no Pay Pal. Can you read what I have asked I had Pay Pal for a few months here and there but was always reported probably by the same asseholes now trying to sell me some skunky site....
I wasn't suggesting you buy the site. Hell I know you could never do that. I was suggesting you buy tokens and see what you choices were. If you try to buy tokens through Epoch you'll see PayPal is a choice. Join a site/buy some tokens
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I wasn't suggesting you buy the site. Hell I know you could never do that. I was suggesting you buy tokens and see what you choices were. If you try to buy tokens through Epoch you'll see PayPal is a choice. Join a site/buy some tokens
How many times I have to say, I own the business but I do not run it. What is a token ( I use them in Vegas but they are called chips)? And what is MFC ? MotherFuCker ? I have no clue. I am also not interested to learn this shit, that is why I pay people to do that, but unfortunately they are not doing such a good job. I have a growth but 8 % per year? Not good enough.

Somebody please explain to me why Epoch does NOT have this on their website as a matter of fact? When I offer (in any of my businesses) a service unique to the industry I would promote it, NOT hide it or put " hoops and loops" in the way. Fuck it, I will wait for the announcement that Pay Pal pulled out of the " ass gapping teen fisting venture".

I am done with this, I am too busy.
Enjoy buying chips to find out about this pile of BS, I rather go after Verotel and their Bit coins.

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^ pay someone to find out if epoch process via paypal then you fucking stupid cunt. Or just act like an asshole in this thread, I'm sure that will have people rushing to help you.
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^ pay someone to find out if epoch process via paypal then you fucking stupid cunt. Or just act like an asshole in this thread, I'm sure that will have people rushing to help you.
Nice avatar, fits you well. BTW if I had a cunt I would be insulted.
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How many times I have to say, I own the business but I do not run it. What is a token ( I use them in Vegas but they are called chips)? And what is MFC ? MotherFuCker ? I have no clue. I am also not interested to learn this shit, that is why I pay people to do that, but unfortunately they are not doing such a good job. I have a growth but 8 % per year? Not good enough.

Somebody please explain to me why Epoch does NOT have this on their website as a matter of fact? When I offer (in any of my businesses) a service unique to the industry I would promote it, NOT hide it or put " hoops and loops" in the way.
mfc= myfreecams.com, one of the most popular cam sites around. I'm quite surprised that anyone can work in adult and not know that.

I don't know why you dismissed what SplatterMaster suggested. If you're so concerned about whether epoch legitimately offers paypal, what better way to verify that than by purchasing some tokens via Epoch/paypal? doing so offers empirical evidence far stronger than anything that could be written on a website

as to why Epoch doesn't use the paypal logo on their home page, I would imagine that either a) they have yet to redesign their page or b) that paypal does not wish it's logo to be used in that context.

I think it's a good thing to think critically, examine evidence and search for observable proof of what people/companies claim, but in this case you just look stubborn, unwilling to expend any effort in seeking answers to your own questions. Epoch offers merchants in the US/Eur the ability to process payments via paypal. If you doubt Epoch's claims you can easily find out for sure by making a small purchase through a legitimate adult website that offers Epoch/paypal.

a final thought: if you run a business but are "not interested to learn this shit" as you claim, you're positioning yourself to get taken advantage of. Without expending some time and effort in learning about the nature of this industry, about what your employees actually do, you're operating entirely on blind trust. Ironically that's the same thing you're concerned about when it comes to Epoch/paypal

just my . it seems like you've chosen your new processor so all the best moving forward
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Nice avatar, fits you well. BTW if I had a cunt I would be insulted.
Thanks I have images turned off so can't comment on yours, I assume it's of a retarded child though. BTW seems you can't even comprehend one of the most simple insults there is, no wonder you can't get your head around the a-b-c answers already given in this thread

Your thought process to the answer already given about buying some tokens is about the same as spazzing out and telling everyone you have no desire to buy a car, when advised to get a taxi somewhere. Tool.
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There are so many idiots who subscribe to the old adage :" too big to fail" ( never mind "too big to lie")....

.... to that end I have some shares in Lehman Brothers or safely invested with Bernie Madoff. I can sell them to you cheap. But if you prefer something closer to the government safety I also have an access to some Fannie May and Freddie Mac securities. These outfits have a great "stature in the industry" and do not need to prove anything to anybody, especially not to some trolls who are asking questions for a long time. ( I am making it in present tense since you may have to google this stuff to comprehend the irony of it).

I said, that I cannot log in because I do not process with them, so what is the big deal showing me their link, maybe I will ask Bernie how he hid stuff for so long.

As to you insulting me ? Maybe there are more "trolls" here NOT currently with Epoch who would like to see what the deal is. As for me, you sound like some low end operative for them. Feel free to heap more shit , I still want to know what the deal is, but NOT from some fucked press release or some phoney page asking me to log in to get a big prize in some irish lottery or inheritance form some dead Nigerian....

or maybe admit that they and PayPal are scared shitless for the Joe Public to know that you can join " Gaping fisted teen assholes.com " using PayPal. Even I would understand.

I am totally a Nigerian Princess, in the employ of Epoch.

Allow me to lead you to water:

(1) Go to Blue Blood VIP Mega Pass BlueBlood.com and note the PayPal logo and then go ahead and try to pay with PayPal and see for yourself how it works out for you.

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