CNN Money says; It's expensive to be poor

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Those in the bottom 30% of the income scale make an average of $14,000 a year, including the value of many government benefits like food stamps or disability payments. But they spend more than $25,000, or 182%, of their annual income mostly on basic needs like housing, food and transportation, according to a CNNMoney analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

It's expensive to be poor

[Harmon]

Your new nickname should be BrassMonkette

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Your new nickname should be BrassMonkette

[blackmonsters]

I believe it because I literally paid "out the ass" for eating this shit :

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I believe it because I literally paid "out the ass" for eating this shit :

But I'm saying, tell the truth. Do you really eat that? My husband eats canned meat and it's the most disgusting thing I ever saw in my life.

I'm thinking that stuff is similar.

[dyna mo]

reading the article, the cost of housing for low-income peeps is crazy. it's getting worse too, at least here in socal, caught a local news story that rent increased here more than double what it has in the entire country, over the last year, 5% increase.

problem is most jobs are in the cities, where housing is higher.

[Tom_PM]

Expensive to be poor? I think it's traditionally called "poverty".

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

reading the article, the cost of housing for low-income peeps is crazy. it's getting worse too, at least here in socal, caught a local news story that rent increased here more than double what it has in the entire country, over the last year, 5% increase.

problem is most jobs are in the cities, where housing is higher.

But don't people get paid more working in the city too? Like a city secretary job would pay higher than a suburb secretary job, no?

[pimpmaster9000]

in the USA going to college is too expensive and not worth the money if you are poor...you will collect like 100K debt and on that debt another 100K interest and by the time you pay off the 200K debt you will be better off not going to college and just getting a normal job and not getting the huge debt in the first place...on top of that you will probably not get a decent job...

the combined student debt in the USA is at 1trillion $ at the moment...

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

in the USA going to college is too expensive and not worth the money if you are poor...you will collect like 100K debt and on that debt another 100K interest and by the time you pay off the 200K debt you will be better off not going to college and just getting a normal job and not getting the huge debt in the first place...on top of that you will probably not get a decent job...

the combined student debt in the USA is at 1trillion $ at the moment...

Orrrr have your parents pay for it?

When my oldest was at community it was only 1600.00 per semester plus books.

[Tom_PM]

So everyone who has dead parents, just step out of the line pls n thks.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

in the USA going to college is too expensive and not worth the money if you are poor...you will collect like 100K debt and on that debt another 100K interest and by the time you pay off the 200K debt you will be better off not going to college and just getting a normal job and not getting the huge debt in the first place...on top of that you will probably not get a decent job...

the combined student debt in the USA is at 1trillion $ at the moment...

Shut the fuck up. You go to community college for 2 years and if you have good grades you transfer to 4 year school with scholarships.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

in the USA going to college is too expensive and not worth the money if you are poor...you will collect like 100K debt and on that debt another 100K interest and by the time you pay off the 200K debt you will be better off not going to college and just getting a normal job and not getting the huge debt in the first place...on top of that you will probably not get a decent job...

the combined student debt in the USA is at 1trillion $ at the moment...

this is one of the more dumbfuck things you written here. and you write a lot of dumbfuckery shit.



hand-waving off college for poor people because it's too expensive?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by Tom_PM

So everyone who has dead parents, just step out of the line pls n thks.

No - but they don't go to college that costs 20k a year so they come out 100k + in debt.

[Rochard]

I call bullshit. They are public assistance yet have smart phones and bigger TVs than I have. Fuck that already.

I was a homeless drug loser who dropped out of high school. I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

[Robbie]

Our govt. defines "Poverty" a lot different than most of us think of it as (or people who are truly poor would define it).

The poorest people in America right now live a better lifestyle than all but the richest in America did a hundred years ago! (not talking about the TRULY poor who are homeless and hungry)

"In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation. In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker.

The home of the typical poor family was not overcrowded and was in good repair. In fact, the typical poor American had more living space than the average European. The typical poor American family was also able to obtain medical care when needed. By its own report, the typical family was not hungry and had sufficient funds during the past year to meet all essential needs.

Poor families certainly struggle to make ends meet, but in most cases, they are struggling to pay for air conditioning and the cable TV bill as well as to put food on the table. Their living standards are far different from the images of dire deprivation promoted by activists and the mainstream media."

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

But don't people get paid more working in the city too? Like a city secretary job would pay higher than a suburb secretary job, no?

Yup. Of course.

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Orrrr have your parents pay for it?

When my oldest was at community it was only 1600.00 per semester plus books.

Community college is cheap. Cheap.

These people crying $100,000 rivers should have stuck their kids in a CC to get an AA and see how they adapted. Not every kid "just because he has the grades" or his parents wrote his please pick me letter deserves to be in a university.

Sticking your kid in a college should be a well thought through decision, not necessarily what you THINK should happen. Like buying a home or investing in a company. It shouldn't be a given.

I don't know. As a parent that will be dealing with this shit soon and looking at my 13 year old son, I just couldn't imagine putting it all on the line for a kid that still wants to hang out at the roller skating rink or wear skinny jeans below his ass cheeks.

That's me.

[CurrentlySober]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I believe it because I literally paid "out the ass" for eating this shit :

Any pics of your 'payment' ?

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Shut the fuck up. You go to community college for 2 years and if you have good grades you transfer to 4 year school with scholarships.

Damn, I didn't see your post but you are an astute individual.

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Any pics of your 'payment' ?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I call bullshit. They are public assistance yet have smart phones and bigger TVs than I have. Fuck that already.

I was a homeless drug loser who dropped out of high school. I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

The whole negative thing about poor people with smart phones is more about other people not knowing how to shop.

Also not knowing it's pre-paid and is therefore turned off half the time but the wifi for internet still works just fine.

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[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

But don't people get paid more working in the city too? Like a city secretary job would pay higher than a suburb secretary job, no?

i think it's safe to say that the wage increase in a city is not commensurate with the cost of living increase.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I call bullshit. They are public assistance yet have smart phones and bigger TVs than I have. Fuck that already.

I was a homeless drug loser who dropped out of high school. I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

what are you calling bullshit on?

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

But I'm saying, tell the truth. Do you really eat that? My husband eats canned meat and it's the most disgusting thing I ever saw in my life.

I'm thinking that stuff is similar.

I am actually eating this for the first time. Heat it in a skillet then scramble eggs into it.
I bought it a long time ago for "stock".
I buy stuff in a can that I plan on never eating in life and that way when I'm broke I still
have it to eat.


Electric bill wiped me out 3 months in a row. My own fault.

On another real note; I have actually stopped buying a sub sandwich that I bought for decades.
It's a foot long but now it cost $10.
I just can't justify it anymore.

Poor or not poor isn't $10 a sandwich a lot or am I just out of touch with reality?

[L-Pink]

I have a good friend who's son decided to skip college for a year after high school so he could earn some money first. Well the kid got a job for a concrete company and has made over $125,000 a year salary and benefits over the last 5 years!

He was smart enough to find a company doing "scale" work constructing state parking structures, gov office buildings, schools, hospitals, anything on state/federal property.

Now he takes community college business classes at night with plans to someday run his own company.


(from a taxpayer point of view I'm appalled he makes $48 an hour plus full benefits for a job that normally pays less than half of that but more power to him for working smart)

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Your new nickname should be BrassMonkette

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

On another real note; I have actually stopped buying a sub sandwich that I bought for decades. It's a foot long but now it cost $10. I just can't justify it anymore.

Poor or not poor isn't $10 a sandwich a lot or am I just out of touch with reality?

I think they are 8 or 9 dollars here. The other night we got dinner.

1. Cheese steak
1. Pizza steak
1. Steak hoagie
1. Chicken tender platter
1. Chicken Caesar salad

Bill was $48.00 . That almost never happens because I'm from Philly and cheese steaks around here suck, but it's a new place and I wanted to try it. Sad I did because it was delicious. First time I had a steak hoagie in like 4 years.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

I am actually eating this for the first time. Heat it in a skillet then scramble eggs into it.
I bought it a long time ago for "stock".
I buy stuff in a can that I plan on never eating in life and that way when I'm broke I still
have it to eat.


Electric bill wiped me out 3 months in a row. My own fault.

On another real note; I have actually stopped buying a sub sandwich that I bought for decades.
It's a foot long but now it cost $10.
I just can't justify it anymore.

Poor or not poor isn't $10 a sandwich a lot or am I just out of touch with reality?

depends on how many meals you get out of that foot long. i bet i can get 4 meals out of it and a bag of pretzels, so $3/meal. that's not bad.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I was a homeless drug loser who dropped out of high school. I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

That is the quality citizen way

Originally Posted by Rochard

They are public assistance yet have smart phones and bigger TVs than I have. Fuck that already.

Society leecher way.


I am surprised you vote left instead of right with this quality thinking.
On the other hand, many people vote opposite to their interest, mostly because of not understanding that Like welfare leechers voting republicans or quality people (who say that you get what you earn, not "redistribution" handouts) voting democrats.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

That is the quality citizen way



Society leecher way.


I am surprised you vote left instead of right with this quality thinking.
On the other hand, many people vote opposite to their interest, mostly because of not understanding that Like welfare leechers voting republicans or quality people (who say that you get what you earn, not "redistribution" handouts) voting democrats.

Rochard is not a unique snowflake, most people work for what they have.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Rochard is not a unique snowflake, most people work for what they have.

Yet many of them votes for "redistribution" of their hard work to the ones who treats welfare as their right and as their job... If you are like that you should not vote LEFT. The whole philosophy of left is that you must rip off bigger earners and hand it out to lazies because "it is fair".

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

depends on how many meals you get out of that foot long. i bet i can get 4 meals out of it and a bag of pretzels, so $3/meal. that's not bad.

Seriously, do you really think there is webmaster alive who will not eat that whole sandwich in one meal?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Seriously, do you really think there is webmaster alive who will not eat that whole sandwich in one meal?

I honestly didn't. I had half for dinner and half for breakfast. I couldn't make 4 meals out of it though. Dyno is a lean machine!

[NikKay]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Orrrr have your parents pay for it?

When my oldest was at community it was only 1600.00 per semester plus books.

A lot of people don't have parents or don't have parents who would/could pay $1,600 per semester plus books. Where I grew up nobody ever expected to see $1,600 in the bank at one time their entire lives.

[brassmonkey]

rent a center arron's places like that luv ghetto fabs

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

I honestly didn't. I had half for dinner and half for breakfast. I couldn't make 4 meals out of it though. Dyno is a lean machine!

we need a surprising few amount of calories per day. we can prolly solve a lot of problems with government handouts like food stamps and such if people knew we could eat less.

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

we need a surprising few amount of calories per day. we can prolly solve a lot of problems with government handouts like food stamps and such if people knew we could eat less.

Only when I commit myself to a gallon of water a day do I realize how little food we actually need to feel normal.

I'll be starting that next week. Detoxxxx is coming. Junk is going. I'm not happy about it.

[The Porn Nerd]

Actually, being rich is very expensive, too.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I didn't get any "help" from anyone - not our government, not my family.

Granted you gave, you certainly got help in some manner as a Marine.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Shut the fuck up. You go to community college for 2 years and if you have good grades you transfer to 4 year school with scholarships.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is one of the more dumbfuck things you written here. and you write a lot of dumbfuckery shit.



hand-waving off college for poor people because it's too expensive?

well its directly from a CNN documentary that was on HBO last night called "Ivory Tower" I know you 2 mental midgets with your US midget education will no doubt proceed to midget defend your midget arguments

[Sly]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

depends on how many meals you get out of that foot long. i bet i can get 4 meals out of it and a bag of pretzels, so $3/meal. that's not bad.

My "good" sandwich shop is $10, I get four meals out of it. Really great, hot sandwiches. The cheaper shops, like Jimmy John's, I usually get the five dollar sandwich and that goes for two meals.

People can save a lot of money if they just started eating less. Nobody needs all of the food they eat. Plus it costs more in the long run due to medical issues.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well its directly from a CNN documentary that was on HBO last night called "Ivory Tower" I know you 2 mental midgets with your US midget education will no doubt proceed to midget defend your midget arguments

i don't have to defend my observation that you are a giant dumbfuck, you're doing a hell of a job proofing it on your own.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

well its directly from a CNN documentary that was on HBO last night called "Ivory Tower" I know you 2 mental midgets with your US midget education will no doubt proceed to midget defend your midget arguments

Oh boy, i wouldn't dare to compare my education to what you got at Institute of boot lacing of Belgrade. Son, stop pissing up the rope. Its not water dripping down on you.
Why does Canada lets these dipshits in?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Sly

My "good" sandwich shop is $10, I get four meals out of it. Really great, hot sandwiches. The cheaper shops, like Jimmy John's, I usually get the five dollar sandwich and that goes for two meals.

People can save a lot of money if they just started eating less. Nobody needs all of the food they eat. Plus it costs more in the long run due to medical issues.

you know what's funny? i was going to reply to BM's post that i bet Sly could get 4 meals out of that sandwich!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Only when I commit myself to a gallon of water a day do I realize how little food we actually need to feel normal.

I'll be starting that next week. Detoxxxx is coming. Junk is going. I'm not happy about it.

what's going on starting next week? detox junk unhappy ?

[420]

How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

what's going on starting next week? detox junk unhappy ?

Just getting the junk out of my body. Nothing insane. Gotta drop 20! It really shouldn't be that hard once I commit.

[dyna mo]

"The only thing worse than going to college is not going to college."

-Anthony P. Carnevale






Anthony P. Carnevale is an internationally recognized authority on education, training and employment. He was appointed by President Clinton as Chairman of the National Commission on Employment Policy. Dr. Carnevale also served as Vice President of the Education Testing Service (ETS) between 1996 and 2003.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Oh boy, i wouldn't dare to compare my education to what you got at Institute of boot lacing of Belgrade. Son, stop pissing up the rope. Its not water dripping down on you.
Why does Canada lets these dipshits in?

was just quoting CNN...I know you have that mystical thing called an "american education" that we in 3rd world countries can not understand, seriously, our high schools are more difficult than your college

man I went to an american high school for a year O MY GOD I thought they sent me 10 years back

I honestly believe americans are the least educated developed country in the world...

when you say the word "american" what epithet comes to mind first? dumb or smart?

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Originally Posted by 420

How many sandwiches (meals) can you get from a pack of balogna and sandwich bread?

Make us a couple sammiches and let's find out.

Kidding! I will not eat balogna!