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dyna mo · 02-20-2015, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Science can be almost anything that is studied.

Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge"[2]) is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about nature and the universe. This knowledge is determined through the scientific method by experiments and observations, and may take the form of scientific facts, scientific models, or scientific theories.[nb 1] In an older and closely related meaning, "science" also refers to a body of knowledge itself, of the type that can be rationally explained and reliably applied. Ever since classical antiquity, science as a type of knowledge has been closely linked to philosophy. In the West during the early modern period the words "science" and "philosophy of nature" were sometimes used interchangeably,[3]:p.3 and until the 19th century natural philosophy (which is today called "natural science") was considered a separate branch of philosophy.[4]

In modern usage, "science" most often refers to a way of pursuing knowledge, not only the knowledge itself. It is also often restricted to those branches of study that seek to explain the phenomena of the material universe.[5] In the 17th and 18th centuries scientists increasingly sought to formulate knowledge in terms of laws of nature. Over the course of the 19th century, the word "science" became increasingly associated with the scientific method itself, as a disciplined way to study the natural world, including physics, chemistry, geology and biology. It is in the 19th century also that the term scientist began to be applied to those who sought knowledge and understanding of nature.[6] However, "science" has also continued to be used in a broad sense to denote reliable and teachable knowledge about a topic, as reflected in modern terms like library science or computer science. This is also reflected in the names of some areas of academic study such as social science and political science.

Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

~50% of Euros agree with me, psychology is not science.

But, tell ya what I'll do, since so many gfyers are concerned about what dyna mo thinks about psychology, I'll chalk this up to semantics. While psychology is not scientific, it is A science. Like political science or sociology, it's studied in a serious and rigorous manner.

Speaking of, I recently read that the "science" behind antidepressants is backwards.

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The science behind many antidepressant medications appears to be backwards, say the authors of a paper that challenges the prevailing ideas about the nature of depression and some of the world's most commonly prescribed medications.

The authors of the paper, posted by the journal Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, combed existing research for evidence to support the theory that has dominated nearly 50 years of depression research: that depression is related to low levels of serotonin in the gaps between cells in the brain.

The science behind many antidepressants appears to be backwards, researchers say

psych science!

aka123 · 02-21-2015, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

when we start categorizing the psychology of dogs as science I will certainly start that thread.

It is biology, that is science (and psychology is a subset of biology). When you study any living thing, or past living thing, it is science. No matter is it human, dog, squirrel, fish or dinosaur. But there is no need to start threads about that.

Struggle4Bucks · 02-21-2015, 05:18 AM

Of course psychology, philosophy, anthropology, history, etc is science... Well... of course when it's practiced within scientific framework, but that also counts for physics and maths.
Science is divided in different disciplines: alfa-, beta- and gamma-science.
History and filosophy for example are placed under Studia Humanitatis/Humanities (alfa)
The fact that a study is not exact; beta... like maths and physics doesn't mean it isn't science.
It's no coincidence these different forms of science are divided into alfa, beta and gamma.

Sometimes there is also overlap. Biology for example has exact as well as non-exact fields of study... it doesn't make it less science.
The difference between these fields of science for example is methodology. While physics strongly depends on math for coming to conclusions,
history and philosophy use hypothesis and deduction (The process of reasoning in which a conclusion follows necessarily from the stated premises;
inference by reasoning from the general to the specific).

I studied history and filosophy myself at the University of Amsterdam. You will not only learn to study these fields of interest,
but also how to practice correct methodology, etc to come to valid conclusions. There are also subjects that everyone
who studies at a University must study. Whether you study History or Physics, everyone has to study subjects like Philosophy of Science,etc

So... when it comes to this:

a.53% think psychology is science
b.34% of all Europeans think history is science

a. 47% is clueless
b. 66% is clueless

dyna mo · 02-21-2015, 08:10 AM

Again, since so many gfyers are concerned about what Dyna mo thinks of science-

I'll agree psych is A science, just like studying politics is A science, but just like political science, it is not scientific.

Joshua G · 02-21-2015, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Again, since so many gfyers are concerned about what Dyna mo thinks of science-

I'll agree psych is A science, just like studying politics is A science, but just like political science, it is not scientific.

they were only trying to help you not sound so dumb. but of course it was the attention you wanted all along.

science would call you a black hole.

dyna mo · 02-21-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

they were only trying to help you not sound so dumb. but of course it was the attention you wanted all along.

science would call you a black hole.

thread's not about what people think of dyna mo's view on psychology, which is all pretty silly actually to watch people like you get torqued up about my view of psycho, as if it's essential to you, others and especially me that I conform to your fucking view on something.

And you think you speak for science? that science would call me a black hole? Then you fail to realize how science works- getting shit wrong and keeping trying to find the right answer. So knock it off with your elitist bullshit.

The truly bizarre part about your post and others is I never tried to convince anyone that their view needs to align with mine. I've simply replied to the attack on my view with support for it.

It's too bad you can't see the thread for what it is- pointing out that we're all, internationally, about the same level of intelligence. 25% of the people on the planet think the Sun revolves around the Earth. Doesn't matter where they live. It's not excusively USA, as the other thread tries to imply.

but you're only interested in a drive-by insult. I'm sure you feel better about yourself now.

dyna mo · 02-21-2015, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Science can be almost anything that is studied.

Science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so porn is science according to this.

sure thing.

dyna mo · 02-21-2015, 10:26 AM

Science class every Sunday

dyna mo · 02-21-2015, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

they were only trying to help you not sound so dumb. but of course it was the attention you wanted all along.

science would call you a black hole.

Dear dickhead,

Learn:

" most scientific studies are ultimately wrong is normal for science. There are more theories in the graveyard of science than theories that stand the test of time. Why? Because new data is always emerging and theories have to be adjusted. Theories are only as good as theories are, until new data comes along and ruins them. Theories give a best guess at what is going on based on things we observe (data), but they are not immutable. If you only have a few data points, then your working theory is more likely to turn out to be wrong. This is not news to science, this is science. Ioannidis goes on to say:

Published research findings are sometimes refuted by subsequent evidence, with ensuing confusion and disappointment."

Not breaking news: many scientific studies are ultimately proved wrong! | Science | The Guardian

Drake · 02-22-2015, 01:04 PM

If I recall correctly, psychology is considered a "soft science" since it doesn't adhere to rigorous standards that other scientific disciplines like chemistry and biology do. The latter are "hard sciences".

02-21-2015, 05:18 AM	#53
Struggle4Bucks Sieg Hi! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lissabon Posts: 3,614	Of course psychology, philosophy, anthropology, history, etc is science... Well... of course when it's practiced within scientific framework, but that also counts for physics and maths. Science is divided in different disciplines: alfa-, beta- and gamma-science. History and filosophy for example are placed under Studia Humanitatis/Humanities (alfa) The fact that a study is not exact; beta... like maths and physics doesn't mean it isn't science. It's no coincidence these different forms of science are divided into alfa, beta and gamma. Sometimes there is also overlap. Biology for example has exact as well as non-exact fields of study... it doesn't make it less science. The difference between these fields of science for example is methodology. While physics strongly depends on math for coming to conclusions, history and philosophy use hypothesis and deduction (The process of reasoning in which a conclusion follows necessarily from the stated premises; inference by reasoning from the general to the specific). I studied history and filosophy myself at the University of Amsterdam. You will not only learn to study these fields of interest, but also how to practice correct methodology, etc to come to valid conclusions. There are also subjects that everyone who studies at a University must study. Whether you study History or Physics, everyone has to study subjects like Philosophy of Science,etc So... when it comes to this: a.53% think psychology is science b.34% of all Europeans think history is science a. 47% is clueless b. 66% is clueless __________________ Half troll half amazing!

02-21-2015, 08:10 AM	#54
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,941	Again, since so many gfyers are concerned about what Dyna mo thinks of science- I'll agree psych is A science, just like studying politics is A science, but just like political science, it is not scientific.

02-21-2015, 10:26 AM	#58
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,941	Science class every Sunday

02-22-2015, 01:04 PM	#60
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	If I recall correctly, psychology is considered a "soft science" since it doesn't adhere to rigorous standards that other scientific disciplines like chemistry and biology do. The latter are "hard sciences".