Selling models used panties

[corvette]

Hi guys, i have a friend that wants to sell his hot wifes panties and wants to know the best way how.

From my recollection, i know CCBill/Epoch wont process for tangible goods, and i vaguely recall PP freezing accounts that did this.

Any recommendations on what can be used to process for this type of product would be appreciated.

See you guys at the Phoenix Forum


-Mark

[OneHungLo]

I vaguely remember some people being prosecuted by the feds for doing this. Definitely consult with one of the over-priced hack adult industry lawyers.

[OneHungLo]

ANDERSON, S.C. -- A Central, S.C., woman pleaded guilty this week to federal charges of mailing soiled underwear and other items that she sold over the Internet.

According to a release from South Carolina U.S. Attorney Strom Thumond Jr., 21-year-old Christine Vetter (pictured, left) admitted in federal court that she operated a Web site offering the items for sale.

Vetter said that, from November 2000 to March 2002, she sold and mailed about $9,000 worth of soiled underwear and other used hygiene and sex-related items on the Web site while she was a student at Clemson University.

The woman faces up to five years in prison or a $250,000 fine on charges of "mailing indecent and filthy substances."

The case was investigated by U.S. Postal Service agents. The investigators learned about Vetter's business when they spotted a letter addressed to her, labeled that it contained child pornography.

The envelope did not contain any child pornography, inspectors said. They later determined that that the sender of the letter was a disgruntled customer of Vetter's Web site.
Vetter's site is no longer operating.

[L-Pink]

[Seth Manson]

Dont send them through the US Postal service.

[brassmonkey]

damn freak

[crockett]

Reddit... seriously go to reddit post pic sets of her in the panties in the gone wild subs and drop hits about selling them..

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Dont send them through the US Postal service.

Same charge if you use the U.S. Postal Service or Fedex, UPS, a donkey, it doesn't matter.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by corvette

Hi guys, i have a friend that wants to sell his hot wifes panties and wants to know the best way how.


-Mark

OK whenever I hear a story start with "I have a friend.." 9 times out of 10 he is talking about himself..

So Mark you are really looking for advice on how to sell your panties?

[TheSquealer]

It't not legal to ship them no matter what anyone says.

[corvette]

Originally Posted by SBJ

So Mark you are really looking for advice on how to sell your panties?

i have so many

[avalanche]

The issue is not the used panties, it's that they were "soiled" and containing bodily fluid which is considered a hazardous material requiring special shipping permits, etc etc etc. You can sell used panties, but they have to be cleaned and you pretty much can't insinuate otherwise or you're committing fraud. So as long as you don't say they're soiled, and have a disclosure explaining that they are cleaned and sanitized before shipment you should be fine. We have models that have been doing it through PP for years without issue.

[Seth Manson]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Same charge if you use the U.S. Postal Service or Fedex, UPS, a donkey, it doesn't matter.

True, but the US Postal Inspector doesn't get involved with Fedex or UPS deliveries.

[brassmonkey]

do you wear them over nite b4 shipping?

[Dead]

Dont....... Brings way to much unwanted attention to a otherwise good site.

[StinkyPink]

Just for the record, ccbill does do tangibles now, and you can setup shopping carts, likely woocommerce or similar. Also, there are private couriers, shippers, and expediters that would likely do this on the low key.

[poncabare]

disgusting

[corvette]

thanks for the advice guys

[MakeMeGrrrrowl]

Just sell worn but clean panties. Slip some unscented hair gel in the crotch and zip it up in a baggy.

[AdultKing]

The workaround is this. It was an old trick used back in the days where we used to stick display ads in certain magazines and newspapers with adult sections and were advertising photo sets (10 photos) of models with used knickers for $30 cash. Years before the BBS Systems or the Internet.

Have brand new unworn underwear ready for the following preparation.

First prepare a small bowl with plain flour, water and a small amount of tuna oil. Then mix it together so you have a liquid paste. Get a basting brush and dip it onto the mixture.

You get brand new underwear and then use the basting brush to lightly smear the padded under section with the mixture you made. Then seal the underwear in a zip lock plastic bag for shipment.

You're not shipping human waste, you're shipping clothing with confectionary added to it.

[Deej]

You're better off forgetting about this.

You will get away with selling quite a few panties... a lot in fact. However, like some have said, big brother (or whoever) will come crashing down on you.

Unused panties are fine technically. But you will be scrutinized and possible punished for selling them with this intention whether they're soiled or not.

As seth said... if you do choose to do this absolutely do not send them through US postal. If ever found, its a federal crime.

UPS and Fedex are better options as they are private couriers. They dont care too much about what you send through their service, except for a couple things... damaged goods and hazardous material. Soiled Panties are technically a biohazard material. Even if the (I assume) Girl only intends to put them on for a moment and then zip them up with a faint smell of vag... still biohazard. So then it falls on them whether its against their policy. But, If packaged properly and discretely... Im sure UPS or Fed Ex would do.


I still recommend not doing this as I myself have seen the issues it entails.

[MiamiBoyz]

Better call Saul

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Deej

As seth said... if you do choose to do this absolutely do not send them through US postal. If ever found, its a federal crime.

It's a federal crime whether you use the US postal service or a private courier like Fedex or UPS. Many people assume that using the postal service makes it federal crime, but it doesn't.

18 U.S. Code § 1461 - Mailing obscene or crime-inciting matter

Looks like it an get you 5 in the federal pokey.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

The workaround is this. It was an old trick used back in the days where we used to stick display ads in certain magazines and newspapers with adult sections and were advertising photo sets (10 photos) of models with used knickers for $30 cash. Years before the BBS Systems or the Internet.

Have brand new unworn underwear ready for the following preparation.

First prepare a small bowl with plain flour, water and a small amount of tuna oil. Then mix it together so you have a liquid paste. Get a basting brush and dip it onto the mixture.

You get brand new underwear and then use the basting brush to lightly smear the padded under section with the mixture you made. Then seal the underwear in a zip lock plastic bag for shipment.

You're not shipping human waste, you're shipping clothing with confectionary added to it.

Not a bad idea at all.

We just used to have the girls wear them, we would wash them, and then spray them with perfume.

[crockett]

There goes that idea of sending cow poo to your enemies website...

[Deej]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

It's a federal crime whether you use the US postal service or a private courier like Fedex or UPS. Many people assume that using the postal service makes it federal crime, but it doesn't.

18 U.S. Code § 1461 - Mailing obscene or crime-inciting matter

Looks like it an get you 5 in the federal pokey.

I know that the penalty is the same for whichever mode of transport... Its just that fed ex and UPS wont snoop or really give a shit unless the package falls under one of the two categories. since they dont get nosey, they wont know whats in it unless the package is damaged. .... or... undeliveable/returnable... there is that.

[NETbilling]

NETbilling processes for many many adult sites selling tangible goods. However, we cannot do soiled panties. If you need to sell anything else and way to pay 5% or less instead of 15% thrush a third party processor, we are here to help.

Questions?

Mitch

[OneHungLo]

Originally Posted by Deej

I know that the penalty is the same for whichever mode of transport... Its just that fed ex and UPS wont snoop or really give a shit unless the package falls under one of the two categories. since they dont get nosey, they wont know whats in it unless the package is damaged. .... or... undeliveable/returnable... there is that.

Gotcha. I wonder if they have skidmark sniffing dogs

[TrashyGirl]

There is a market for this type of item and other *used* items. The biggest site that features these items is ebanned.net. Site has been around since 2000.

It is however, as other members pointed out, a risk to send out these used items, especially via USPS. The college student who was busted for selling used panties happened back in 2002. Have there been any other federal cases since?

A few years ago there was an HBO Real Sex episode featuring 2 guys who were selling used women's panties and using models pics to play the girls. They used tuna juice to fake the pussy scent.

I've known a few cam girls who sell used panties etc on the side, they seal them in a ziploc type bag and wrap the items in birthday or xmas wrapping paper. They've never had a problem sending them even thru USPS using this covert method.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Gotcha. I wonder if they have skidmark sniffing dogs

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[armysmoke]

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[just a punk]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

The woman faces up to five years in prison or a $250,000 fine on charges of "mailing indecent and filthy substances."

Have no idea on who will want to buy this kind of shit (if he is not Japanese of course), but 5 years in prison? For selling her pants? Seriously? Only in land of the free *facepalm*

P.S. Just wonder how many years in prison a sperm (an indecent and filthy substance) donor will get there

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

The workaround is this. It was an old trick used back in the days where we used to stick display ads in certain magazines and newspapers with adult sections and were advertising photo sets (10 photos) of models with used knickers for $30 cash. Years before the BBS Systems or the Internet.

Have brand new unworn underwear ready for the following preparation.

First prepare a small bowl with plain flour, water and a small amount of tuna oil. Then mix it together so you have a liquid paste. Get a basting brush and dip it onto the mixture.

You get brand new underwear and then use the basting brush to lightly smear the padded under section with the mixture you made. Then seal the underwear in a zip lock plastic bag for shipment.

You're not shipping human waste, you're shipping clothing with confectionary added to it.

They will nail you with Intent and not the actual crime.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

Just sell worn but clean panties. Slip some unscented hair gel in the crotch and zip it up in a baggy.

I suggest this, buy a nice fresh bass ( wait a day) then smear the panties crotch with it( take a picture of you doing it for legal purposes) and ship away.... Since when is it illegal to ship fish byproduct

[SplatterMaster]

The biggest problem with selling them, as with the girl who got busted, is someone reporting it. Even if carriers open or scan a package they don’t know if something is used or unclean or not. Millions of panties are delivered every day.

[Barry-xlovecam]

It is in violation of domestic US postal regulations and if the package is inspected by customs it most likely be confiscated as contraband.

That said, people do it all of the time ... I doubt prosecuting these "heinous crimes" are a high priority but it could happen.

[newB]

Originally Posted by crockett

There goes that idea of sending cow poo to your enemies website...

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

The investigators learned about Vetter's business when they spotted a letter addressed to her, labeled that it contained child pornography.

^ You could try this instead, apparently it works. (jk, that's like the nuclear option)

[CPA-Rush]

mmmmm....

[Far-L]

...in Japan there are vending machines that sell used panties...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Far-L

...in Japan there are vending machines that sell used panties...

I would be surprised if there wasn't

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I would be surprised if there wasn't

Yep, file that under "what will they think of next"

[SekobA]

I can sale mine too...any1 interested

[Look Chang]

Used panties vending machine in Japan, 1000 Yen is about 8 USD for a smelly souvenir

[ErectMedia]

Shit's all over classified sites and seen tons of camgirls doing it as well. Not saying it's legal but from the ads I see guess enough get away with it.

[money biz]

[Sunny Day]

My girlfriend said her sister used to sell them. $30 a pair and made several hundred a month I think she said her sister also sold used bras and pantyhose.