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Evil Chris · 03-11-2015, 10:25 AM

Who won?

I think it's a moot point now. Gates has done everything he set out to do. Windows is still the bigger OS, but Apple puts out superior products with a much heftier price-tag.

They both won.

ilnjscb · 03-11-2015, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Iphones could be replaced within 24 months if accidently another company invents something better - millions and millions of PCs in offices all over the world on the other hand...

In most cases, inventing is literally nothing. In this world, it is 99.9% executing that matters. No one could develop the supply chain necessary to disrupt Apple within 24 months.

Now, if you invent something truly revolutionary, like fire, or the wheel, then sure. But not a slightly better iteration of a 3 decade product.

Drake · 03-11-2015, 12:32 PM

I don't claim to know much about either men. From my limited knowledge, I would have to give the edge to Bill Gates.

As others have said, he made PCs and everything that comes with them available for all. Couldn't one argue that this paved the way for smartphones etc.?

The iphone is a great product but isn't it just an improvement on the Blackberry. Likewise the ipad (also great) is just a derivation of the iphone - i.e. a bigger version which is more practical for certain purposes.

The Porn Nerd · 03-11-2015, 01:47 PM

But what if Gates didn't rip Jobs off with Microsoft's "Windows" OS? Then perhaps 90% of the world's computers would be Macs. No?

tobe87 · 03-11-2015, 01:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0

candyflip · 03-11-2015, 01:58 PM

One is dead and the other is alive. It's a pretty safe bet as to which one "wins".

pimpmaster9000 · 03-11-2015, 02:10 PM

apple didnt win shit...its market are hipsters and people who like to pay 10x more for an AMD processor and not play games at all LOL...Ipads and iphones and Iwatches are overpriced gimmicks...bring no real value to the computer world nor did apple really innovate anything, jobs was just good at taking other peoples ideas and marketing it to people who wanted to look better than other people because they have a 1000$ phone made in china...

as far as who made the most $ then apple is the winner but who made the biggest mark in the computer world its not apple thats for sure...

arock10 · 03-11-2015, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

One is dead and the other is alive. It's a pretty safe bet as to which one "wins".

Everyone is dead over time. Everyone loses?

Manfap · 03-12-2015, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Apple wins hands down, not even close!

From Forbes

This is an entirely stunning statistic: Apple?s iPhone sales are now worth more than all of Microsoft:

One Apple product, something that didn?t exist five years ago, has higher sales than everything Microsoft has to offer. More than Windows, Office, Xbox, Bing, Windows Phone, and every other product that Microsoft has created since 1975. In the quarter ended March 31, 2012, iPhone had sales of $22.7 billion; Microsoft Corporation, $17.4 billion.

Now just imagine if Apple actually paid it's tax where it products were sold.

selena · 03-12-2015, 06:08 AM

Gates by a landslide. Both made unimaginable amounts of money. One has/is showing he knows what to do with it.

candyflip · 03-12-2015, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But what if Gates didn't rip Jobs off with Microsoft's "Windows" OS? Then perhaps 90% of the world's computers would be Macs. No?

They both ripped off Xerox.

Evil Chris · 03-12-2015, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by selena

Gates by a landslide. Both made unimaginable amounts of money. One has/is showing he knows what to do with it.

There's some truth in that.

One could also mention/argue that a severely large percentage of Apple employment is Chinese. Not that this isn't also applicable to Microsoft, but I'm not sure to what degree.

ilnjscb · 03-13-2015, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

apple didnt win shit...its market are hipsters and people who like to pay 10x more for an AMD processor and not play games at all LOL...Ipads and iphones and Iwatches are overpriced gimmicks...bring no real value to the computer world nor did apple really innovate anything, jobs was just good at taking other peoples ideas and marketing it to people who wanted to look better than other people because they have a 1000$ phone made in china...

as far as who made the most $ then apple is the winner but who made the biggest mark in the computer world its not apple thats for sure...

But BOTH were born in the <shudder> USA!

TheLegacy · 03-13-2015, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

During the eighties and nineties the big debate was who would "win" the computer wars, Microsoft or Apple. Well, Apple just had the biggest revenue quarter of any business in the history of the world so does this mean Apple has "won" the computer wars?

Bill Gates is off doing humanitarian work in Africa and Jobs is dead....but which company is the Big Winner in the 21st Century?

I remember well the times when this debate was raging - Microsoft vs. Apple. Now it seems (to me) like Apple has left Microsoft in the dust. What do you think?

In short Gates won simply because Jobs is dead and can't enjoy the money/success/power from the grave.

MaDalton · 03-13-2015, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But what if Gates didn't rip Jobs off with Microsoft's "Windows" OS? Then perhaps 90% of the world's computers would be Macs. No?

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Originally Posted by candyflip

They both ripped off Xerox.

^^^^^

what did Apple actually ever invent?

they just took things, dumbed them down, made them look pretty and then sold them for twice the money

that on the other hand is pretty smart

tony286 · 03-13-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

^^^^^

what did Apple actually ever invent?

Actually Woz invented the apple 1 computer and it was ground breaking. In the real sense, not in the market bullshit sense Apple uses now. He is really the guy not Jobs. Without Woz to latch onto we wouldnt be speaking about Steve Jobs.

The Porn Nerd · 03-13-2015, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Actually Woz invented the apple 1 computer and it was ground breaking. In the real sense, not in the market bullshit sense Apple uses now. He is really the guy not Jobs. Without Woz to latch onto we wouldnt be speaking about Steve Jobs.

Excellent point.

And let's not forget Paul Allen with Microsoft, either.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I don't claim to know much about either men. From my limited knowledge, I would have to give the edge to Bill Gates. As others have said, he made PCs and everything that comes with them available for all. Couldn't one argue that this paved the way for smartphones etc.? The iphone is a great product but isn't it just an improvement on the Blackberry. Likewise the ipad (also great) is just a derivation of the iphone - i.e. a bigger version which is more practical for certain purposes.

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