News Brother of man executed by Utah firing squad calls it brutal - GoFuckYourself.com

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 09:46 AM

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) ? Randy Gardner still struggles four years later to talk about seeing his brother's bullet-ridden body at the mortuary after he was executed.

Ronnie Lee Gardner was the last person to die by firing squad in Utah ? a method state lawmakers voted this week to reinstate, illustrating frustrations across the U.S. over bungled executions and shortages of lethal-injection drugs.

Randy Gardner made it clear Wednesday he did not condone what his brother did ? first killing a bartender and later shooting a lawyer to death and wounding a bailiff during a courthouse escape attempt.

But he said the firing squad is brutal.

"When you take somebody and you tie them to a chair, put a hood over their head, and you shoot them from 25 feet with four rifles pointed at their heart, that's pretty barbaric."

Brother of man executed by Utah firing squad calls it brutal

Barry-xlovecam · 03-12-2015, 09:51 AM

What is the humane way to execute people anyway?

Not in opposition of the death penalty with legal due process.

But killing is never "clean".

dyna mo · 03-12-2015, 09:53 AM

welcome to the future. no more pentobarbital

Sly · 03-12-2015, 09:55 AM

Mother of murdered bartender cries of barbaric killing.

Wife of murdered lawyer tears up as describing husband's barbaric death.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 09:55 AM

to be clear

inmates have to approve this method of execution

SuckOnThis · 03-12-2015, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Mother of murdered bartender cries of barbaric killing.

Wife of murdered lawyer tears up as describing husband's barbaric death.

An eye for an eye type justice is what you believe in?

aka123 · 03-12-2015, 10:12 AM

What is the problem with the shooting? Not any less humane than other most popular methods. Actually I consider shooting being more humane than killing with meds/poison.

JD · 03-12-2015, 10:15 AM

Better than by cannon.

Cherry7 · 03-12-2015, 10:19 AM

Murder is murder whether done by a person or the state.

When the State murders someone all citizens become guilty.

Civilised countries do not execute people.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7

Murder is murder whether done by a person or the state.

When the State murders someone all citizens become guilty.

Civilised countries do not execute people.

so you think the state should house them till they die. it cost money!

CDSmith · 03-12-2015, 10:34 AM

Brother calls it barbaric. I call it decisive.

The guy was a mad dog. Mad dogs get put down as far as I ever knew. By whatever means.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Brother calls it barbaric. I call it decisive.

The guy was a mad dog. Mad dogs get put down as far as I ever knew. By whatever means.

just a punk · 03-12-2015, 10:39 AM

Executed by a firing squad? For real? What a barbarian country executes its own citizens? Even animals are much better that those

P.S. I believe those guys who shot dead a human, feel good and sleep well with their whores. A land of the free...

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Executed by a firing squad? For real? What a barbarian country executes its own citizens? Even animals are much better that those

P.S. I believe those guys who shot dead a human, feel good and sleep well with their whores. A land of the free...

not so free where you are

just a punk · 03-12-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

not so free where you are

Wrong. Where I'm, every human has a freedom to live. Even if a cop (something like a God in your world) will take it away, he will face a prison time (usually for the end of his ages). Feel the difference...

bronco67 · 03-12-2015, 11:28 AM

If we're going to kill prisoners, I don't see how it's any less humane than injecting some half-ass medical cocktail that may or may not work. A firing squad is cheaper and will be instant death.

Fun fact about firing squads...usually one of the guns has a "conscience round" which is a blank cartridge, so every squad member can know there's a possibility he didn't fire the fatal shot.

dyna mo · 03-12-2015, 11:34 AM

what's the age requirement for executioners? I know for ISIS it's ~12 years old, I'm figuring since this is the USA and all, it's 18 years old?

anyone?

sandman! · 03-12-2015, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

Brother calls it barbaric. I call it decisive.

The guy was a mad dog. Mad dogs get put down as far as I ever knew. By whatever means.

TheSquealer · 03-12-2015, 11:58 AM

Such a shock he didn't call it "a lovely afternoon shared with family"

Maybe he is just a "that cup is 1/2 empty" kind of guy.

mineistaken · 03-12-2015, 12:51 PM

Thanks for more positive daily news, Mr. Brass, keeping up the morale of GFY

Bama · 03-12-2015, 01:04 PM

They should have shot his ass and then propped his bloody corpse back up into the chair and shot his ass again!

blackmonsters · 03-12-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Thanks for more positive daily news, Mr. Brass, keeping up the morale of GFY

And we can always count on you to bump it to the top so we don't miss any.

mineistaken · 03-12-2015, 03:19 PM

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And we can always count on you to bump it to the top so we don't miss any.

Nope, you can not always count on that. Not only that, but you can not even count on me bumping the majority of them. You can count on me occasionally bumping some of them.

blackmonsters · 03-12-2015, 03:19 PM

What's the big deal?
He shot two other people and zero fucks were given so I have zero fucks to give back.

GAMEFINEST · 03-12-2015, 03:27 PM

when you gotta go, you gotta go

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

And we can always count on you to bump it to the top so we don't miss any.

Joe Obenberger · 03-12-2015, 03:32 PM

This boils down to a religious issue. A Mormon religious issue. The two states with a tradition of firing squads - Utah and Idaho - both have strong Mormon foundations from the time of their settlement. Under Mormon theology, some kinds of sins - particularly homicide/murder - will only be forgiven by God by the shedding of the offender's blood. Literally. And that explains the sympathy for at least optional firing squads in states with big Mormon populations. When Gary Gilmore, a Mormon, chose the firing squad, it with his salvation in mind.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

This boils down to a religious issue. A Mormon religious issue. The two states with a tradition of firing squads - Utah and Idaho - both have strong Mormon foundations from the time of their settlement. Under Mormon theology, some kinds of sins - particularly homicide/murder - will only be forgiven by God by the shedding of the offender's blood. Literally. And that explains the sympathy for at least optional firing squads in states with big Mormon populations. When Gary Gilmore, a Mormon, chose the firing squad, it with his salvation in mind.

fuck religion

kill my fam ill fix it myself

SilentKnight · 03-12-2015, 04:08 PM

Noose is cheaper than ammo.

Bring back the short piece of rope.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Noose is cheaper than ammo.

Bring back the short piece of rope.

will never happen

too much government control

maybe in 50 years when shift of power changes.

blackmonsters · 03-12-2015, 04:16 PM

femdomdestiny · 03-12-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

so you think the state should house them till they die. it cost money!

No, but there is better solution: take a remote island miles from land, and drop them with parachute. Let them live there if they can survive. Just one satellite to watch if someone try to escape. Just drop them without anything. That's it. They have some chance to survive, and if they do, that would be hell to live in society of lifetime convicts. Costs are initial and that is all.

L-Pink · 03-12-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Wrong. Where I'm, every human has a freedom to live. Even if a cop (something like a God in your world) will take it away, he will face a prison time (usually for the end of his ages). Feel the difference...

The daily "Russia good America bad" idiot posts again.

.

crockett · 03-12-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Wrong. Where I'm, every human has a freedom to live. Even if a cop (something like a God in your world) will take it away, he will face a prison time (usually for the end of his ages). Feel the difference...

Russians support return of death penalty to fight extremism and crime ? RT Russian politics

SBJ · 03-12-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

No, but there is better solution: take a remote island miles from land, and drop them with parachute. Let them live there if they can survive. Just one satellite to watch if someone try to escape. Just drop them without anything. That's it. They have some chance to survive, and if they do, that would be hell to live in society of lifetime convicts. Costs are initial and that is all.

they've tried that back in the 80's "Escape from New York". It didn't workout that well.. Snake Plissken FTW

Seth Manson · 03-12-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Executed by a firing squad? For real? What a barbarian country executes its own citizens? Even animals are much better that those

P.S. I believe those guys who shot dead a human, feel good and sleep well with their whores. A land of the free...

God damn just shut the fuck up. You're almost as bad at that Serb crussifisco fag.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The daily "Russia good America bad" idiot posts again.

.

JFK · 03-12-2015, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

An eye for an eye type justice is what you believe in?

What do you believe in ?

brassmonkey · 03-12-2015, 11:07 PM

oh i have murdered family so i believe in fucking death 4 death

_Richard_ · 03-13-2015, 01:47 AM

personally i think we should bring back quartering

nothing like a good mutilation fest to really show these bad people that bad things are bad /sarcasm

just a punk · 03-13-2015, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The daily "Russia good America bad" idiot posts again.

Did I say anything about Russia? There are many other civilized places in the world where death penalty is totally unacceptable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson

God damn just shut the fuck up. You're almost as bad at that Serb crussifisco fag.

I feel for you, man. A freedom of speech is something you never had and never will.

Nicholas FirstMobileCash · 03-13-2015, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

What's the big deal?
He shot two other people and zero fucks were given so I have zero fucks to give back.

Not much more to say than this.

Best-In-BC · 03-13-2015, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

But killing is never "clean".

Bullshit, the shot of poison they get is.

L-Pink · 03-13-2015, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Did I say anything about Russia?

Blow me you condescending commie cunt.

dyna mo · 03-13-2015, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

l.. Snake Plissken FTW

I thought he was dead?

dyna mo · 03-13-2015, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

personally i think we should bring back quartering

nothing like a good mutilation fest to really show these bad people that bad things are bad /sarcasm

i've been thinking this re: spree killers. Instead of glorifying them in the media, they should simply be disappeared, the only thing reported would be something like their earlobe and an elbow found in a garbage dump somewhere.

that would stop the sprees.

_Richard_ · 03-13-2015, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

i've been thinking this re: spree killers. Instead of glorifying them in the media, they should simply be disappeared, the only thing reported would be something like their earlobe and an elbow found in a garbage dump somewhere.

that would stop the sprees.

disappearing people.. why hasn't that been thought of before!

dyna mo · 03-13-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

disappearing people.. why hasn't that been thought of before!

can't leave out the finding a bit or 2 in a rubbish heap, that's the clincher message to the potential copycat spree'ers.

happyending · 03-15-2015, 08:17 PM

I would be pro Death Penalty if it was 100% in that no innocent people were killed.

Unfortunately our Criminal Justice system in all Western Countries are far from 100% in convicting or executing Guilty vs Innocent people.

Seems like we incarcerate and kill almost as many innocent people as guilty fuckers.

Someone above in this tread was going off about Commie Cunts, I do not discriminate on Cunts and Commie ones are just as juicy as Mormon ones in fact Commies have hotter women than Mormons.

SilentKnight · 03-15-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Blow me you condescending commie cunt.

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