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Old 03-24-2015, 02:53 PM   #1
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Question for conspiracy theorists

I'm not really someone that follows the conspiracy theories but I was sent an email about one involving the clothing industry that made me stop and think for a moment.

It's called the "Great Slob Conspiracy" and it argues that society has been changed so radically over the last few years by simply changing the outward appearance of the average person. And that we can change society back for the better by literally taking pride in our appearances.

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The great slob conspiracy


However I'm convinced that there is a great conspiracy to turn the public into lazy slobs that don't give a shitabout anything except stuffing their faces and masturbating. You see fat lazy people spend more on garbage they don't need and people who become addicted to sex are easy to control.


For example look at how nice women used to dress:


Now look at how nice men used to dress :


it wasn't just a white protestant thing:


Although the past wasn't perfect society can be restored to its former productivity if the average person can be made to take pride in their appearance again.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:22 PM   #2
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Some of those pictures have something to do with price. There was a time in this country that flying was very expensive. Most people took the bus or the train or drove. Those who did fly tended to dress better because it was a higher class experience.

A lot of it too simply has to do with fashion trends. There was a time when dressing like that was simply the in fashion.

I don't know that it has anything to do with profits or productivity. Because people now wear jeans and t-shirts is not why companies are moving offshore. People aren't lazy because of the clothes they wear, they are lazy because of how they were raised.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:59 PM   #3
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I quite think that I'd like to have lived in the 50's or so for the clothes, men always wore hats and not those fucking stupid baseball caps.
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:06 PM   #4
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One can argue that it's no longer necessary to get dressed up for a social event.


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Old 03-24-2015, 04:38 PM   #5
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The 1950 was blood awful, trying being on the top deck of a morning bus with everyone having their first fag. No pictures of that.

It was grey poor cold shabby and dull.
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:43 PM   #6
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Some of those pictures have something to do with price. There was a time in this country that flying was very expensive. Most people took the bus or the train or drove. Those who did fly tended to dress better because it was a higher class experience.

A lot of it too simply has to do with fashion trends. There was a time when dressing like that was simply the in fashion.

I don't know that it has anything to do with profits or productivity. Because people now wear jeans and t-shirts is not why companies are moving offshore. People aren't lazy because of the clothes they wear, they are lazy because of how they were raised.
Flying? First 2 pics are train related, third pic is home related
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:44 PM   #7
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:47 PM   #8
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I quite think that I'd like to have lived in the 50's or so for the clothes, men always wore hats and not those fucking stupid baseball caps.
You know we're constantly being told at "how great things are today" and truthfully I don't see it. Sure the past had it's share of problems but that's life. Personally I prefer to be living in the 1940s. At the very least WW2 came to an end we've been in Afghanistan, Iraq and this war on terror for 15 years with no end in sight

Besides I'll take Frank Sinatra over any of the crap they call music today.
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The 1950 was blood awful, trying being on the top deck of a morning bus with everyone having their first fag. No pictures of that.

It was grey poor cold shabby and dull.
LOL the French still live like that and in 200 years they'll still be living like that.


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Old 03-24-2015, 04:59 PM   #9
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I fail to see the need to dress up at all. Are you telling me I am not polite or a good person because I wear shorts and a t-shirt? I still hold the door open to strangers.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:26 PM   #11
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I fail to see the need to dress up at all. Are you telling me I am not polite or a good person because I wear shorts and a t-shirt? I still hold the door open to strangers.
Nothing personal against you.
I was told about the "Slob Conspiracy" and I thought I would share it.


As for my opinion,
Well society is pretty fucked up these days. I've never seen racism so bad in my life time, hatred against women, violence and loss of personal freedoms. Consequently I'm curious if there's a correlation in the attitudes between how people dress and behave.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:32 PM   #12
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Clothing trends are subjective. If everyone simply called thongs and belly shirts classy, in about 20 years it would be classy. Period.

We used to wear loin cloths and we built the pyramids, I don't think clothes have anything to do with anything.

In most parts of Europe it is allowed to be topless and or nude. Here in the US in many places you can pee behind a tree and become a sex offender. It's only serious here because we make it serious. It's all an imaginary social construct.
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I can't speak to the question of OP, but there have been countless studies done comparing workplace behavior based on wardrobe. This is where workplace casual came from. Productivity was found to drop too far when workers were allowed to wear anything, they usually took it too far to i.e. shorts and sandals, so a happy medium was found where workers were happy, but productivity was at an acceptable level. I can only presume you could possibly apply that in certain contexts to parts of society.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:48 PM   #14
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You just need to work on your own self discipline. If other people want to be pigs then it's their problem.
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I can't speak to the question of OP, but there have been countless studies done comparing workplace behavior based on wardrobe. This is where workplace casual came from. Productivity was found to drop too far when workers were allowed to wear anything, they usually took it too far to i.e. shorts and sandals, so a happy medium was found where workers were happy, but productivity was at an acceptable level. I can only presume you could possibly apply that in certain contexts to parts of society.
I remember reading about that several years ago and that's what got me thinking when I read the conspiracy
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today's fashion:



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If you look through enough olden-timey pictures, you'd probably see plenty of people dressed like shit.
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Nothing personal against you.
I was told about the "Slob Conspiracy" and I thought I would share it.
I didn't take any offense so no worries.

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As for my opinion,
Well society is pretty fucked up these days. I've never seen racism so bad in my life time, hatred against women, violence and loss of personal freedoms. Consequently I'm curious if there's a correlation in the attitudes between how people dress and behave.
Society isn't any more fucked up "these day" than it was in the past. The difference is when you get older, you notice more of these things, and pay more attention. I am not sure about you, but when I was twenty-five years old the cops were my enemy and I could care less about what anyone was wearing. Now at forty-six I want the local police to camp out on my street to nab the fuckers running the stop sign, and I believe that if I can see a man's underwear it's offensive to me.

But wait, isn't that exactly what your parents complained about? My grandmother complained about the Beatles singing "I want to hold you hand" (gasp!) and my parents refused to let me listen to Madonna's "Like a virgin". Now suddenly I am concerned to what my child is listening to.

The older generation will always bitch, complain, and moan about the younger generation.
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