ilnjscb

You're acting as if she's dropped out. She hasn't. Let's watch.

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I don't see the State department saying much about this. It seems this has been the Republican party hinting that Clinton has done something wrong. What this is really is another witch hunt - They are looking for something and they will keep on looking for something until they find something.

I don't believe you can be any more wrong.

Recent polls for Democrats put Hillary FAR in the lead with 49%. The rest are Warren 20%, Sanders 12%, Biden 5%, and so on. On the Republican side it's Bush with Bush 25%, Walker 17%, Rubio 15%, Carson 12%, Huckabee 7%, Christie 4%, Cruz 6%, Paul 4%, Perry 3%.

You are saying she is out of touch with the Democratic party yet leads with nearly twice the vote as Bush. I understand we haven't even started this yet, but it's pretty clear how this is going to fall already.

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dyna mo

then you missed the scathing letter. not to mention it was the state department (her employer) asking for specific emails pertaining to benghazi.

ragingrhizome

Actually I never said any such thing. I do think that if they run her they will be unpleasantly surprised at the outcome of the election.

Personally I don't think it's a good thing to have two families trading off the white house. If she wins, I suppose we'll have another 8 years of a Bush? That should take us through what, 2032?

By then we will be FUCKED and there will be no freedom left.

Rochard

There have been multiple investigations into Benghazi and all of them have come back with more wrong doing. The last one is a Republican investigation - They are flogging a dead horse.

This is nothing more than a witch hunt.

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dyna mo

benghazi has jack shit to do with any of this. this is about hillary permanently deleted emails after her employer requested them and that is going to cost her a chance to become president.



it's right there in the title.

ilnjscb

So you're predicting what, that she won't make the primary or that she won't win the general election?

dyna mo

it's in the title. She's out of the race. it doesn't matter at what exact point someone is out of a race.

ilnjscb

She isn't technically in the race. So you're saying she's out with no specifics which apparently just means you're saying she doesn't win the presidency.

Ok.

dyna mo

says the gfyer who thinks a $20 bet substantiates something.

ilnjscb

Says the GFYer who won't take a $20 bet

Rochard

Benghazi is the reason we are discussing her emails in the first place. The Republican party investigation requested her emails, and discovered she ran her emails through her own servers. Although this is a common practice, the Republican party is trying to make this into that she did something illegal or at least something wrong - which isn't the case at all.

And you can claim Hillary is out of the race all you want, but the polls tell us differently. In the Democratic party she is the clear winner with 66% of the vote. On the Republican side, the highest front runner is Bush, who is leading with 21% of the vote. In other words, Clinton has three times more support in the Democratic party than the front runner of the Republican party. That is staggering. (BTW, this data comes from ABC News / Washington Post as of this morning, April 2nd.)

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dyna mo

what grade are you in? you don't realize adults can have an opinion on a current event without having to substantiate it by making random bets with strangers. got it.

dyna mo

again, the subject of the emails is tangential.

polls at this point don't mean jack shit. you should know shit like that by now. i can point to a poll that shows jeb Bush is leading hillary and neither one is even in the race.

Joshua G

if i recall, hilary was beating obama by double digits this time in 2007. why even bring this up?

i hope this election is a repeat of mckinley roosevelt. where wall street thought they sidelined teddy by making him veep. mckinley dropped dead & teddy cleaned house. I hope hilary falls into a sewer & elizabeth warren becomes president.

ilnjscb

I'm not calling you a chicken but I am saying you crossed the road to get to the other side. No, sure, you come on here and say something controversial as if it was a fact, and then affect to be pissed off and act all thin skinned when someone disagrees.

You stated your opinion, I told you I disagree. No need for the butthurt.

dyna mo

Lolz. You think I'm pisseded off about you? Lolol.

I couldn't give 1 single shit if you disagree with this thread.

Gofuckyourself


I'm still loling over that stupid shit substantiate post you made and you think I'm pissed because I say fuck on a message board called gofuckyouself.

Too fucking funny

2MuchMark

I'm Dyna Mo and I say "Fuck you gofuckyourself fucking asshole fuck shit piss gleeaarrrggghhhh to everyone who's opinions differ from mine arrrggghh!"

Take it down a notch, man! You'll feel better.

Fact check time:

- Hillary is not officially in the race, yet.

- If she enters, she will win.

- Other dems know this - no one substantial is willing to go against her.

- Warren won't win. She's awesome and smart and a fantastic lady but Hillary would beat her. If anything, Hillary should ask Liz Warren to be her running mate.

- Republicans are a joke. All kinds of idiots have jumped in and all will lose to Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush is the republicans best chance to beat Hillary, and, he has already snatched up most of the donors and received most of the cash (just like George W did. So much for Jeb being his "own man"). Even Mitt Romney backed out.

. Forget Chris Christie - he has already fucked New Jersey out of the billions due to them from Exxon, and is as dirty as they come. He'll never win either.

Hillary FTW.

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dyna mo

simpleton. you might want to pay more attention to my posts if you are going to continue analyzing them and wrongly concluded i rip everyone's face off who disagrees. just like in this thread, try reading.

i keep it respectful up until i get disrespected, then i take over. like right now
you stupid fucking dipshit. psychobabble that from across the web you fucking dolt.

dyna mo

you stupid fucking nitwit, as you can see you posted your fucking opine in here and i didn't comment at fucking all.

fuckwad dumbfuck. psychobabble that then gofuckyourself.

ilnjscb

LOL!! I love how he collapses into inarticulate nonsense whenever he's confronted with reasonable information.

"fuckwad dumbfuck. psychobabble that then gofuckyourself."

Then he says he "not pissed" LOL!!

You are funny guy dynamo. Keep spouting the nonsense, bro!

dyna mo

dumbfuck, read it again, where in the fuck is it reasonable to psychodiagnose someone based on a completely wrong over-generalization of gfy posts?

not to mention you're the fucking nitwit who thinks a point of view is substantiated with a $20 fucking bet.

dumbfuck.

not to mention your complete insecurity you reveal when i articulated my opinion, such as this thread.

Rochard

Because this thread is about how Hillary is "dropping out of the race". Nothing could be further from the truth. Her popularity with Democrats is still huge.

The polls are interesting and shows the Republican party is split. They have been since they lost to Obama.

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dyna mo

no.. you added in the "dropping" part to my "hillary is out of the 2016 race."

i never stated hillary is dropping out of the race, again, it's right there in the title- hillary is out of the 2016 race.

Rochard

Officially she is not running, but she will - she's been intentionally heading in this direction for some time now - and when she runs she will win. The Republican front runner right now is Bush, and no one outside of Florida really knows who he is. Other than him being Governor of Florida and the son of a President, most people know nothing about him. Hillary on the other hand has a massive leg up because everyone knows her from her time as First Lady, then Senator, then Secretary of State.

I don't really believe in Hillary myself, so I'll just wait and see when they have the debates. That's when I make up my mind who I will vote for if I do indeed vote.

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SuckOnThis

I would rather support an Elizabeth Warren of even a Bernie Sanders over Hillary but thats not going to happen. So in the end it will be Hillary and the upside of her is if for no other reason just so Bill would be back in the White House. The entertainment value in the right wing response to that would be golden.

ilnjscb

I think she's more talented than this, but the Bill thing is a huge draw. Nobody should imagine though, in reality, that we'll have Bill back. He's a shadow of his former self. Also the country is more polarized, so no one, not Warren, nor any other liberal champion will be able to get much done.

CDSmith

Back in '07 I openly predicted that the US very well may be having themselves a black president. Several of my fellow GFY'selfers (including a few in this very thread) shot back the old "it'll never happen" at me. I love when people say that to my predictions. Love it. "never happen" indeed.

Fast forward to present day, when again I'm seeing people debating the US presidential race. And here it is, CD's official assessment of the situation.

None of the past candidates the GOP has trotted out over the last 8 years carry enough chutzpah to beat Mrs Clinton. None. So barring someone of note stepping forward very soon you very well might be in for her being your first female POTUS.

I can think of really only two names that might be able to beat her, but since neither has expressed any serious interest in running it's not worth mentioning. :D


Hey it's still early yet, someone worthy may possibly rise from the primordial muck and draw the sword for the Republicans. Sure, it could happen. Think positive, right?


Now continue on, I look forward over the next 18 months to at least 500 more threads chock full of all the great platitards, uh, platitudes, I've come to know and love...

libtards
republitards
Obamatards
Romneytards
Hillarytards
Palintards
RonPaultards
Libertardians
Lefttards
REtards

It's going to be an entertaining race, I can feel it.

Let the special Olympics begin. :D

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Mutt

She supposedly just rented out 2 floors of office space in NYC - only reason she'd do that is for a presidential campaign headquarters.

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Supposed to be a nice place too, $100 grand a month or something I think I read.

candyflip

She is literally out because she is not officially in.

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Vendzilla

It's in Brooklin Heights, that's suppose to be a nice area. Yeah she will announce and she will get the democrat party behind her in her bid.

I just don't want to see a gop president in there with a gop congress. We need balance. Having a democrat president will give that balance if that democrat president works with the GOP congress, unlike that asshole in office now!

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dyna mo

what's the difference. either way, hillary won't become president. the legacy of BO, the history of the position not being held by either party for more than 2 terms, the email scandal, the foreign government campaign contributions scandal, the fact that the reason people that do want her president is simply because she's female, all just off the top of my head, there are other reasons as well.

that's why i claim she is out of the race.

Vendzilla

What about Reagan, then Bush, we had 2 years of democrats, then the GOP took control of congress, then it was Bush again 2 years later.

Go to opensecrets.org and see the kind of money that the democrats bring in, Many of the idiots on this forum are blaming the Koch Brothers, they are nothing compared to what the Democrat machine is bringing in from Unions. Put that together with the Republicans being so split up with no clear leadership as of yet. I think Hillary is a shoe in. I'm doing work for a Super Pac and I see the money, it's scary big!

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think about that

dyna mo

since 1950 something, neither party has held the WH for longer than 2 terms. there is no reason to think that record will be broken in 2016.

each candidate will have to raise ~$1 billion to run. whoever they are. i actually don't think that is going to be a problem for either party.

Vendzilla

Reagan held for 2 terms, then Bush for one, that's 3 terms total.

Politics has changed a lot in just the last couple decades, we use to have moderates on both sides, we don't have them anymore, which sucks.

Yes, I think both sides will raise one hell of a lot of money, neither side will suffer from lose of revenue. I do believe the Democrats are better at raising money right now, but that changes.

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dyna mo

i didn't recollect the fact properly, here's an article that outlines where i am coming from-

History Is Not On The Democrat's Side In 2016

Vendzilla

While it's a good read and I agree under normal circumstances that it would probably be true, but if Hillary gets the party Vote, it will mark something that has never happened, the Wife of a Popular Ex President running for President.

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think about that

dyna mo

that combo could go either way. i wonder what % of voters will vote against her because she is a female and a clinton. more than those who would vote for her simply because of that perhaps.

Vendzilla

The Clinton name has been pretty stain resistant over the years and democrats will elect the first woman, not Republicans.

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think about that

dyna mo

I hope you aren't trying to suggest there are no democratic chauvanists.

ilnjscb

LOL!! How can you keep making definitive statements that are so flagrantly wrong? Then you get hurt and angry when people helpfully point out that you're basing your personal assumptions on incorrect information. Luckily this one was so blatant that you had to climb down right away without the usual string of garbled invective.

If you're going to make these statements as if you had any knowledge or expertise whatsoever, then attack people who comment on or debate your statements, at least have the decency to develop an elementary grasp of the facts.

Humorously, you may indeed be correct, but at this point that can safely be chalked up to pure chance, not any grasp of the political arena.

dyna mo

can you read a thread? or are you just still butthurt over my lolling at your substantiate comment?

Combined with the fact that i haven't attacked 1 fucking person in here who has posted their view, including you.

i mean really, it's all right here in the thread. again, where the fuck did i attack you or anyone in this fucking thread for posting an opinion?

and you think a prediction like this would be based on expertise? name 1 fucking expert who is right fucking now predicting the outcome of the 2016 race. you fucking can't, so don't try that bullshit you know what expertise is shit in my thread.

jtfc.

dyna mo

quote where the fuck i attacked anyone in this thread for voicing their opinion on the topic and i'll stand corrected. or where i got hurt and angry when "people helpfully point out".

jtfc, it's people like you that get confused when someone like me says fuck on a message board called gofuckyourself


it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

dyna mo

i fucking know i may be correct. that's why i started the fucking thread.

but what i know even better is just how fucking stupid it is to claim political expertise while hanging out on gofuckyourself.

Acepimp

This thread is great. Thanks for the laughs. I can only hope that shady witch has no chance. How about someone who isn't a lying scumbag. I would vote for Bernie Sanders or Ben Carson. Gary Johnson is OK but too unknown. Fuck it, my 1st choice is Jesse Ventura!

dyna mo

someone who gets it.

Wendy-Etology

hmmm....