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Old 04-02-2015, 12:32 PM   #101
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Old 04-02-2015, 02:08 PM   #102
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Memories Pizza in Indiana Gets Thousands in Donations After Saying It Won't Cater Gay Wedding - ABC News
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Yeah, the test is pretty simple. If the bride and groom are the same sex the discriminators won't take their money.
How about if it isn't for a wedding or pizza?
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How about if it isn't for a wedding or pizza?
No idea. All I know about this topic is the pizza thing.

Maybe they'll judge based on appearance. Soon, we'll have to stop wearing skinny jeans to get service.
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How about if it isn't for a wedding or pizza?
I was watching the news yesterday and they had a couple of people on to debate this.

One guys said something to the effect of, "If a person who is gay walks into a bakery and wants to buy a doughnut or cupcake we will sell it to them, but if they want me to make a cake and deliver it that has a topper featuring two men on it, I can't do that."

To me it sounded like they were perfectly find with taking their money so long as they didn't realize they were doing so.
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Jokes on you. They cashed in because of the interwebs

They made more money in 3 days being closed than they would net in 3 years.


up to $295,803 now and by the time I finish typing it will prolly be $300k! This is a small town of 2,000 people. This is prolly more money then she would make in 10 years. Looks like this bigot will get the last laugh
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I find it fairly ironic that some here on this board of all places blindly give support to a law like this. This is a porn forum is it not? Do you supporters of this not think that businesses would also choose not to do business with you if they found out you do porn?

I realize you guys are blindly supporting it because your favorite political team is in support of it so you want to support your team and whine about liberals, gays and blacks.. However just think how nice it will be when all banks could deny your service due to your profession. We already see a bit of that today.

Do you really think it's smart to support this kind of religious fanaticism when you are in the adult industry?
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I find it fairly ironic that some here on this board of all places blindly give support to a law like this. This is a porn forum is it not? Do you supporters of this not think that businesses would also choose not to do business with you if they found out you do porn?

I realize you guys are blindly supporting it because your favorite political team is in support of it so you want to support your team and whine about liberals, gays and blacks.. However just think how nice it will be when all banks could deny your service due to your profession. We already see a bit of that today.

Do you really think it's smart to support this kind of religious fanaticism when you are in the adult industry?
Exactly! I live in this fucked up state of Indiana and I would never openly tell a bank or anyone that I wished to do biz with what I do for a living.
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Our constitution guarantees religious freedom. Its the first amendment for crying out loud.
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Exactly! I live in this fucked up state of Indiana and I would never openly tell a bank or anyone that I wished to do biz with what I do for a living.
Don't worry dude. Everyone will forget where the anti-gay pizza people were from soon.


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Our constitution guarantees religious freedom. Its the first amendment for crying out loud.
How come the business can't discriminate while hiring? I don't understand why they'd be allowed to discriminate against customers but not employees.
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What's really funny is the whole premise is based on 2 gay guys actually catering pizza for their wedding.
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How come the business can't discriminate while hiring? I don't understand why they'd be allowed to discriminate against customers but not employees.
Look I'm not claiming this is a simple issue and that I can explain it. What I am saying is religious freedom is the very first personal rights amendment and certainly that means something.

FYI BO voted for the first rfra back when Clinton pushed it through when he eras president.
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What's really funny is the whole premise is based on 2 gay guys actually catering pizza for their wedding.
Not to mention

There was no catering planned. The owner simply stated she wouldn't cater a gay wedding.
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Look I'm not claiming this is a simple issue and that I can explain it. What I am saying is religious freedom is the very first personal rights amendment and certainly that means something.

FYI BO voted for the first rfra back when Clinton pushed it through when he eras president.
I was just wondering because it didn't make sense to me.

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Not to mention

There was no catering planned. The owner simply stated she wouldn't cater a gay wedding.
It seems like they didn't even offer catering. I wish I thought of it first. I can't believe the amount of donations they're getting.
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I was just wondering because it didn't make sense to me.



It seems like they didn't even offer catering. I wish I thought of it first. I can't believe the amount of donations they're getting.
Oh I'm with you. I'm on my mobile and can't type like I want. It is hard for me to make sense of to o. I can see both sides. But I do believe that the bill of rights is potentially being neglected here. That's a skippering slope.
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Our constitution guarantees religious freedom. Its the first amendment for crying out loud.
They are free to practice religion in any way they want but it's not a shield for discrimination, otherwise we would be right back to segregation because people would start claiming it's against their religious beliefs to serve Blacks, Asian.. White.. ect..ect.. This isn't just a anti gay issue.. If they get away with discriminating against gay people the list will go on and on..

This is going to end up costing IL a lot of jobs in the long run. The biggest tech employer (Salesforce) in the state has stated they are halting any expansion and will scale back their operations in the state as well as give money to help any of their employees whom want to leave the state.
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How are business owners in Indiana determining someone's sexual preference? Is there a test?
I image the gays show up making demands,while loudly proclaiming the proclivities...what I've just read is they are demanding cakes that say "I support gay marriage" ....
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I image the gays show up making demands,while loudly proclaiming the proclivities...what I've just read is they are demanding cakes that say "I support gay marriage" ....
The bakery doesn't have to agree with what's written on the cake. What if a straight couple wants a cake claiming they support gay marriage?


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They are free to practice religion in any way they want but it's not a shield for discrimination, otherwise we would be right back to segregation because people would start claiming it's against their religious beliefs to serve Blacks, Asian.. White.. ect..ect.. This isn't just a anti gay issue.. If they get away with discriminating against gay people the list will go on and on..

This is going to end up costing IL a lot of jobs in the long run. The biggest tech employer (Salesforce) in the state has stated they are halting any expansion and will scale back their operations in the state as well as give money to help any of their employees whom want to leave the state.
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Who the fuck has a shitty pizza shop cater their wedding anyways?
It is in Indiana.....who would eat at a pizza place run by a redneck irish person...
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It is in Indiana.....who would eat at a pizza place run by a redneck irish person...
The full name was actually Memories of something I had in new york that they called Pizza.
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Like seriously? People from other countries love to say "The Usa is notorious for" "insert random bad shit here" yet what other country in this entire world do you see people flocking to by the boat load, bus load, plane load, semi load, and hidden under a tarp truckload besides the United States? There is a reason why the U.S. is over crowded and struggling to fix broken immigration laws and it isn't just because they flock here for our good pizza. My guess is a lot of people enjoy not only the freedoms we do have here but the laws that protect us from asstwats who want to discriminate and make it an unpleasant place to live.



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Why sadly? It's their private business, shouldn't they be free do decide whom to deal with?
Forcing people to allow everyone is against various freedoms in a nutshell. And USA is notorious in taunting that word.
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The bakery doesn't have to agree with what's written on the cake. What if a straight couple wants a cake claiming they support gay marriage?


the gay owned bakeries are turning away customers that want 'sodomy is sin' etc. on the cakes
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What you're seeing in Indiana and Arkansas is what happens when Republicans get full control of a state government. It's open war on voting rights, women's health and "the gays". They thought they'd slip this one by while no one was looking, but forgot it isn't 1950 anymore. People noticed, and some of them were supposedly on their side -- but even some conservatives are smart enough to know legislation like this puts their party on the wrong side of history.

What happened to keeping government out of everyone's lives?
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the gay owned bakeries are turning away customers that want 'sodomy is sin' etc. on the cakes
If they are that's ridiculous.

Gay bakeries for gay people and christian bakeries for christian people. Why not right? I got my easter cake from the kosher bakery down the street though.
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They made more money in 3 days being closed than they would net in 3 years.


LOL. Now they can build huge cross and "Fuck You" sign.
I donated $10 not because I agree with anti-gay thing but because I want those fruits to realize that tolerance goes both ways. Not a one way street.
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LOL. Now they can build huge cross and "Fuck You" sign.
I donated $10 not because I agree with anti-gay thing but because I want those fruits to realize that tolerance goes both ways. Not a one way street.
Check out the current number




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I just want everyone to know that I would never cater a gay wedding.
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Hey l-pink. Lawrence billy jones iii looks way different from the guy that actually owns the pizza place. Do you think people are giving all this money to a random guy with the same name?

edit: that's all wrong. The owners name isn't lawrenece jones.
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Hey l-pink. Lawrence billy jones iii looks way different from the guy that actually owns the pizza place. Do you think people are giving all this money to a random guy with the same name?

I have no idea. From the news photos I thought some young girl owned it? All i know is some little pizza store owner is sitting at home in Indiana staring at their computer screen in stunned disbelief contemplating moving to Hawaii.

Would be an even bigger story if someone other than the pizza guy is getting the donations lol.
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I have no idea. From the news photos I thought some young girl owned it? All i know is some little pizza store owner is sitting at home in Indiana staring at their computer screen in stunned disbelief contemplating moving to Hawaii.

Would be an even bigger story if someone other than the pizza guy is getting the donations lol.
I had to look it up. For some reason I thought the shop owner's name was jones. It's not, it's o'connor. The gofundme guy's fb says he's a public figure and private investigator. I didn't see anywhere that said whether or not he gave the pizza man any money yet.
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I had to look it up. For some reason I thought the shop owner's name was jones. It's not, it's o'connor. The gofundme guy's fb says he's a public figure and private investigator. I didn't see anywhere that said whether or not he gave the pizza man any money yet.
The quoted article below tells who Jones is .......

"When asked by local press the hypothetical question of whether or not they'd prefer to have their family owned business, Memories Pizza, cater a gay wedding, the owner said no citing their own religious beliefs as the reason.

Rather than allowing this family to simply have their opinion, which they were asked to give, outraged people grabbed the torches and began a campaign to destroy this small business in small town Indiana.

All for having an opinion that is rooted in faith.

No one was turned away. No one was discriminated against. It was a hypothetical question asked by a news reporter who had questionable motives to begin with.

After being interviewed by Dana Loesch on her television show on Blaze TV, we learned that the family may never even reopen the doors to their restaurant as the death threats and vicious online reviews continue to pour in from the arbiters of "tolerance."

My name is Lawrence Jones, and I'm one of the television opinion contributors on Dana's show.

Before the televised interview, producers Rachel, Allison and George discussed the situation with Dana, myself and head writer Ben Howe. We all agreed: this family needs help to get through this assault.

So we set up a GoFundMe page with the modest goal of $25,000. The intent was to help the family stave off the burdensome cost of having the media parked out front, activists tearing them down, and no customers coming in.

Our goal was simply to help take one thing off this family's plate as the strangers sought to destroy them. "

Support Memories Pizza by Lawrence Billy Jones III - GoFundMe


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Thanks LP. I hadn't seen the actual page yet. Looks like I'm too late to donate. They closed it before becoming millionaires. They'll get about 775k after the 8% gofundme fees.
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that's why I started eating at chik-fila....
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Rather than allowing this family to simply have their opinion, which they were asked to give, outraged people grabbed the torches and began a campaign to destroy this small business in small town Indiana.

All for having an opinion that is rooted in faith.

No one was turned away. No one was discriminated against. It was a hypothetical question asked by a news reporter who had questionable motives to begin with.

death threats and vicious online reviews continue to pour in from the arbiters of "tolerance."

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the left is deff a bunch creepy mother fuckers for sure... those guys, even the creepy fucks here think it's perfectly okay to attack someone their family and job for holding a different view than themselves...even though I agree with them on many occasions I try and point out their hypocrisy and for this I am targeted
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the left is deff a bunch creepy mother fuckers for sure... those guys, even the creepy fucks here think it's perfectly okay to attack someone their family and job for holding a different view than themselves...even though I agree with them on many occasions I try and point out their hypocrisy and for this I am targeted
I'm a liberal and I think it's bad what happened to the pizza shop people --- the half a million dollars in donations notwhithstanding. The extreme side of both ideologies is the problem with our country.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:27 AM   #144
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the left is deff a bunch creepy mother fuckers for sure... those guys, even the creepy fucks here think it's perfectly okay to attack someone their family and job for holding a different view than themselves...even though I agree with them on many occasions I try and point out their hypocrisy and for this I am targeted
exfuckingactly. QFMFT.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:58 AM   #145
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Jesus said love one another as I loved you. No judging,this what the followers of Christ should follow but that's no fun. They aren't Christians they are bigots.
yes I agree, and just to prove it they all need to quit their jobs and wander around in the desert
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:02 AM   #146
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Jesus said love one another as I loved you. No judging,this what the followers of Christ should follow but that's no fun. They aren't Christians they are bigots.
you're making a judgement after pointing out jesus = no judging.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:12 AM   #147
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Jesus said love one another as I loved you. No judging,this what the followers of Christ should follow but that's no fun. They aren't Christians they are bigots.
You can find a Bible quote to back up almost any argument you wish. That being said it's nice to see your intolerant one way opinion again.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:20 AM   #148
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You can find a Bible quote to back up almost any argument you wish. That being said it's nice to see your intolerant one way opinion again.
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:24 AM   #149
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The quoted article below tells who Jones is .......

"When asked by local press the hypothetical question of whether or not they'd prefer to have their family owned business, Memories Pizza, cater a gay wedding, the owner said no citing their own religious beliefs as the reason.

Rather than allowing this family to simply have their opinion, which they were asked to give, outraged people grabbed the torches and began a campaign to destroy this small business in small town Indiana.

All for having an opinion that is rooted in faith.

No one was turned away. No one was discriminated against. It was a hypothetical question asked by a news reporter who had questionable motives to begin with.

After being interviewed by Dana Loesch on her television show on Blaze TV, we learned that the family may never even reopen the doors to their restaurant as the death threats and vicious online reviews continue to pour in from the arbiters of "tolerance."

My name is Lawrence Jones, and I'm one of the television opinion contributors on Dana's show.

Before the televised interview, producers Rachel, Allison and George discussed the situation with Dana, myself and head writer Ben Howe. We all agreed: this family needs help to get through this assault.

So we set up a GoFundMe page with the modest goal of $25,000. The intent was to help the family stave off the burdensome cost of having the media parked out front, activists tearing them down, and no customers coming in.

Our goal was simply to help take one thing off this family's plate as the strangers sought to destroy them. "

Support Memories Pizza by Lawrence Billy Jones III - GoFundMe


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I think this really shows that homosexuality isn't as popular as the media would like us to think ... for instance gay 'marriage' was voted down in CA, so a judge dumped the vote and made gay 'marriage' legal....sorta like when LA voted not to give out welfare to illegal aliens and the city counsel sued to overturn the vote
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Old 04-04-2015, 08:32 AM   #150
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You can find a Bible quote to back up almost any argument you wish. That being said it's nice to see your intolerant one way opinion again.
Yes it's quite amazing that these Christians can not read their own bible and make sense of it..

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?Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

It talks quite often about not judging others...
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