Rant QUESTION: What would you do if a well known Sponsor did this to you? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

The Porn Nerd · 05-19-2015, 09:16 AM

FIDDY ridiculously high payout minimums.

JFK · 05-19-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

certainly IS

MrBottomTooth · 05-19-2015, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeSubmitters

Did you hear that AmaKings raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

I checked their site to see if this is the company he was talking about. They still have a $100 minimum for cheques and it is $1000 for wires , with a $45 fee for wires.

robwod · 05-19-2015, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JFK

certainly IS

I could see it for International Wires. It's just easier to get things in chunks of 1k with wires.

I forget who it was.. it may or may not have been Twistys -- this was several years ago. Whomever it was, wire payouts had a threshold of 1k or 2k, I forget which. It'd be kind of silly to pay 30 to 50 dollars for anything less than $500.

baddog · 05-19-2015, 10:40 AM

#1. Relying on their reputation is inane as lots of big companies fold.
#2. I would tell them to close my account and send me the balance owed.

suesheboy · 05-19-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

#1. Relying on their reputation is inane as lots of big companies fold.
#2. I would tell them to close my account and send me the balance owed.

quoted for correct answer.

Google Expert · 05-19-2015, 11:16 AM

$1000 min payout = exit scam

Harmon · 05-19-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

I agree with MetaMan, the only clear choice is to ask a bunch of part timers, morons and degenerates how you should run your business. As well all know, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell and many other technology titans live and die by the questions they ask and the timeless advice they receieve on digital point, warrior forum and 4chan

Fucking lost it at MetaMan's post... ripped my shirt off in a pseudo bloody warrior like victory war and screamed at the top of my lungs when I read yours

CaptainHowdy · 05-19-2015, 11:23 AM

Walk on ...

sonofsam · 05-19-2015, 12:05 PM

Nice email

You talk about the program not caring about the "smaller affiliates"

and then you make them an offer that you won't expose them if they pay you

Who doesn't care about the smaller affiliates now?

Seems like both you and the program are just as selfish

Tofu · 05-19-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

They are on notice and the clock is ticking. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

Stay tuned.

If you are planning on moving one of your cam sites, I have got a sweet deal for you. You'll even be paid, in full and on time! You'll never have to post one of these threads...ever. Shoot me an email.

Roald · 05-19-2015, 12:26 PM

Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

XSAXS · 05-19-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

Nope, not you Roald.

XSAXS · 05-19-2015, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

Nice email

You talk about the program not caring about the "smaller affiliates"

and then you make them an offer that you won't expose them if they pay you

Who doesn't care about the smaller affiliates now?

Seems like both you and the program are just as selfish

You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

RTP · 05-19-2015, 03:01 PM

just fucking out them.

"i'm telling everyone on gfy"

isn't really going to have them worried

Joshua G · 05-19-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

you are the clown. the problem is that you love their program & dont want to stop promoting them, so you are suffering from battered woman syndrome. you are only showing the GFY community your bruises, & you will protect the name of your attacker, & that you are looking to get more beatings in the future. you even offer to give them more cam traffic

PaperstreetWinston · 05-19-2015, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

yep, too much

SilentKnight · 05-19-2015, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

you are the clown. the problem is that you love their program & dont want to stop promoting them, so you are suffering from battered woman syndrome. you are only showing the GFY community your bruises, & you will protect the name of your attacker, & that you are looking to get more beatings in the future. you even offer to give them more cam traffic

Great analogy.

mineistaken · 05-19-2015, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm

Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out.

Cheers!

Edit: the above ain't new though

Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself

And NAME THEM FFS!

The Porn Nerd · 05-19-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself

And NAME THEM FFS!

I agree but it is also the $1000 limit that is daunting. Not only are there less affiliates these days but you, as a Program, are less likely to KEEP those that are left promoting you if you take longer to pay them.

Raising the minimum payouts after signing up is like snatching the football away when Charlie Brown is about to kick it. I am surprised Roald's company would set a check that high; wires I understand (tho the highest minimum I have seen was $500). But as long as an aff knows this going in it's ok, he can make the choice. But to expect a payout, then not get one, then to be told it's been raised tough titties....yeah, not good.

We have minimums set at $20 so all it takes is 1-2 sales and you get a check. Plus, you can combine sales from other Programs into a single check almost gaurunteeing a weekly payout. The best thing about CCBill.

Roald · 05-19-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

Nope, not you Roald.

In that case send us your traffic ;)

Roald · 05-19-2015, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Minimum is not much the point. When he signed it was a lower minimum, so if the sponsor decides to make it higher, affiliate is entitled to get paid what he is owed (reached under the previous minimum).

So point is shady tactics, not the high minimum itself

And NAME THEM FFS!

Yeah that's why I edited the post

Penny24Seven · 05-19-2015, 07:00 PM

1000 is fine if you know about it. That is how we do it. I don't waste my time with people who want me to do all the work for them and after 30 e-mails doing their job they put up one link on the bottom of a blog that sends 3 hits a week.

TheSquealer · 05-19-2015, 07:56 PM

So you've now directly threatened to cause irreparable harm to their business if you don't get compensated,... which is extortion AND then posted public proof of that fact as if you've done people a favor?

Great job brainiac.

You should hope you don't get sued. If their TOS says that they can change the minimum payouts at their discretion and you did agree to it (and even if it doesn't), then i'd hope you're not too stupid to fail to understand that this is not only actionable in civil court, but is also illegal.

I would guess that lemonade stands in the hood, would be one of the few places to find more immature, naive and ignorant people trying to conduct business than exist in this industry.

poncabare · 05-19-2015, 08:11 PM

Why did I just read two pages of nonsense

The Porn Nerd · 05-19-2015, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by poncabare

Why did I just read two pages of nonsense

Cause it's Tuesday. Shrug.

MPGdevil · 05-19-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by XSAXS

You're making a good point, sonofsam. And perhaps I am a bit selfish. Aren't we all?

But... in the process I am raising awareness and teaching these clowns not to pull shit like this in the future. Next time they'll think twice. The next guy probably won't hesitate to name them immediately.

Well, the clowns will probably learn that if they pay and keep types like you to shut up, they can keep up their scamming behaviors.

I could maybe understand if the $700 meant a lot to you, but sound like it doesn't. So why give a fuck and let other people for whom it's actually a big issue suffer?

BAKO · 05-19-2015, 10:37 PM

Just shoot me for reading this crap lol

Markul · 05-19-2015, 11:29 PM

wtf still no name? someone here should go to the doc and ask why the stones hasn't dropped.

AmeliaG · 05-20-2015, 12:10 AM

Yeah, what TeenCat, Shemp, and Markul said.

mineistaken · 05-20-2015, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Yeah, what TeenCat, Shemp, and Markul said.

HowlingWulf · 05-20-2015, 07:16 AM

Another vote for Shemp's idea. No need for blackmail.

Kenny B! · 05-20-2015, 10:26 AM

I know Badoink just raised our minimum to $1000, not a big deal as we usually do that over a couple months. For those who do less in sales I understand how it would be a piss off.

robwod · 05-20-2015, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

I know Badoink just raised our minimum to $1000, not a big deal as we usually do that over a couple months. For those who do less in sales I understand how it would be a piss off.

Really? If that's the case, they should edit their Terms and Conditions to reflect the changes and avoid future confusion.

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Payout Procedure
Payouts are sent out bi-monthly on the 6th and 20th of each calendar month. Payouts are available via Check ($100 minimum payout) or Wire($500 minimum payout). Contact [email protected] for any questions.

Source: BaDoinkCash Terms and Conditions

Kenny B! · 05-20-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by robwod

Really? If that's the case, they should edit their Terms and Conditions to reflect the changes and avoid future confusion.

I don't know if affiliates are affected the same as channel owners, it may not be program wide.

Deej · 05-20-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

I know Badoink just raised our minimum to $1000, not a big deal as we usually do that over a couple months. For those who do less in sales I understand how it would be a piss off.

Seriously? Why are programs raising the minimum threshold by tenfold? 1000 minimum? Really?

Is this a program's way of attracting only well established traffic gurus and pocket all the minimal affiliate sales?

Bladewire · 05-20-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Seriously? Why are programs raising the minimum threshold by tenfold? 1000 minimum? Really?

Is this a program's way of attracting only well established traffic gurus and pocket all the minimal affiliate sales?

Interesting way to look at it 👍😆

robwod · 05-20-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

I don't know if affiliates are affected the same as channel owners, it may not be program wide.

Ahh, good point.

mineistaken · 05-20-2015, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Interesting way to look at it 👍😆

Not that interesting, pretty straight forward thinking

Some sponsors claimed that they do not like to deal with small affiliates, so maybe that is that. Instead of "invite only" they make it 1000 bucks

Matyko · 05-20-2015, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

You should have made a post like this:

Did you hear that "XADULT COMPANY NAME" raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

Listen to Shemp.

Harmon · 05-20-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

Interesting way to look at it 👍😆

He won't respond, he's alt-tabbed over on Craigslist.org looking for a butt buddy.

$1,000 terms is fine, if it was established when you signed into the agreement. Their fine print stating that they reserve the right to change them is bullshit and wouldn't hold any water in court. They also know that affiliates that will bitch about can't afford the counsel, trips etc. to fight it.

They are scum and they know exactly what they are doing. Out these cunts.

Just sayin...

The Porn Nerd · 05-20-2015, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Deej

Seriously? Why are programs raising the minimum threshold by tenfold? 1000 minimum? Really?

Is this a program's way of attracting only well established traffic gurus and pocket all the minimal affiliate sales?

Ding ding ding WINNER.
Hadn't thought of that but, yup.

Socks · 05-20-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Ding ding ding WINNER.
Hadn't thought of that but, yup.

lol it's not this, AT ALL.. This is the 12clicks explanation.

It's because they don't want to pay out, and prefer to keep your money cozy in their own accounts. Obviously.

mineistaken · 05-20-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

It's because they don't want to pay out, and prefer to keep your money cozy in their own accounts. Obviously.

Wasn't that what Deej said?

lock · 05-21-2015, 01:45 AM

They missed the deadline. Time to do your community a favor....

The Porn Nerd · 05-21-2015, 10:48 AM

This thread reminds me of a recent one by that hottie K R I S T E N. She came on here threatening to expose someone if she didn't get paid. She got hers, never revealed who the offending party was (a CC processer is all she would say) and let the whole thing drop even tho other Webmasters could be getting screwed.

Remember? Fun times. :D

12clicks · 05-21-2015, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

lol it's not this, AT ALL.. This is the 12clicks explanation.

It's because they don't want to pay out, and prefer to keep your money cozy in their own accounts. Obviously.

why exactly would you bring my name up, attention?

myjah · 05-25-2015, 07:29 AM

This AVN - New Reports Detail Data Exposed in AdultFriendFInder Hack made me think about this thread.

This particular part:
Gawker.com reprinted several online message board postings from a hacker using the handle ROR[RG] who claims responsibility for the breach, including "i am in thailand," "they owe my guy money," "had it coming clause" and "pay up or be fucked."

Mr Pheer · 05-25-2015, 11:47 PM

Lets ban the fucker for saying he was going to name the program and then not following through.

TubeSubmitters · 05-26-2015, 12:35 AM

Lets re-read the emails, he said he might migrate one of his camsites to them so it's a camsponsor, how many of those are there with $1000 minimums...

05-19-2015, 09:16 AM	#51
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,501	FIDDY ridiculously high payout minimums. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Skype: peabodymedia

05-19-2015, 11:23 AM	#59
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05-19-2015, 12:05 PM	#60
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	Nice email You talk about the program not caring about the "smaller affiliates" and then you make them an offer that you won't expose them if they pay you Who doesn't care about the smaller affiliates now? Seems like both you and the program are just as selfish __________________ I like turtles.

05-19-2015, 03:01 PM	#65
RTP aka Jimmy James Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Newport Posts: 1,335	just fucking out them. "i'm telling everyone on gfy" isn't really going to have them worried __________________ Jimmy James ATKingdom/AMK Empire Since 1996 - My Movies Home of ATKGirlfriends - Where we take pornstars on trips...and fuck them. Connect with me on LinkedIn

05-19-2015, 07:00 PM	#73
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,289	1000 is fine if you know about it. That is how we do it. I don't waste my time with people who want me to do all the work for them and after 30 e-mails doing their job they put up one link on the bottom of a blog that sends 3 hits a week. __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

05-19-2015, 10:40 AM	#55
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	#1. Relying on their reputation is inane as lots of big companies fold. #2. I would tell them to close my account and send me the balance owed.

05-19-2015, 11:16 AM	#57
Google Expert Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 14,295	$1000 min payout = exit scam

05-19-2015, 12:26 PM	#62
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,880	Our minimum on checks is 1000 too. Paxum and wire are free and at 100 min. We also have a cam platform.... Hm Not in the office atm as I am out on vacation but if this is about us drop me an email and we will sort it out. Cheers! Edit: the above ain't new though

05-19-2015, 07:56 PM	#74
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,083	So you've now directly threatened to cause irreparable harm to their business if you don't get compensated,... which is extortion AND then posted public proof of that fact as if you've done people a favor? Great job brainiac. You should hope you don't get sued. If their TOS says that they can change the minimum payouts at their discretion and you did agree to it (and even if it doesn't), then i'd hope you're not too stupid to fail to understand that this is not only actionable in civil court, but is also illegal. I would guess that lemonade stands in the hood, would be one of the few places to find more immature, naive and ignorant people trying to conduct business than exist in this industry. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

05-19-2015, 08:11 PM	#75
poncabare Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: carmel Posts: 2,553	Why did I just read two pages of nonsense

05-19-2015, 10:37 PM	#78
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05-19-2015, 11:29 PM	#79
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,402	wtf still no name? someone here should go to the doc and ask why the stones hasn't dropped.

05-20-2015, 12:10 AM	#80
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05-20-2015, 07:16 AM	#82
HowlingWulf Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,662	Another vote for Shemp's idea. No need for blackmail. __________________ WP Porn directory/review theme Maddos $35. webmaster AT howling-wulf.com

05-20-2015, 10:26 AM	#83
Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,717	I know Badoink just raised our minimum to $1000, not a big deal as we usually do that over a couple months. For those who do less in sales I understand how it would be a piss off. __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

05-21-2015, 01:45 AM	#95
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05-21-2015, 10:48 AM	#96
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,501	This thread reminds me of a recent one by that hottie K R I S T E N. She came on here threatening to expose someone if she didn't get paid. She got hers, never revealed who the offending party was (a CC processer is all she would say) and let the whole thing drop even tho other Webmasters could be getting screwed. Remember? Fun times. :D __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Skype: peabodymedia

05-25-2015, 07:29 AM	#98
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	This AVN - New Reports Detail Data Exposed in AdultFriendFInder Hack made me think about this thread. This particular part: Gawker.com reprinted several online message board postings from a hacker using the handle ROR[RG] who claims responsibility for the breach, including "i am in thailand," "they owe my guy money," "had it coming clause" and "pay up or be fucked." __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]

05-25-2015, 11:47 PM	#99
Mr Pheer Living inside your head. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 20,494	Lets ban the fucker for saying he was going to name the program and then not following through.

05-26-2015, 12:35 AM	#100
TubeSubmitters Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,683	Lets re-read the emails, he said he might migrate one of his camsites to them so it's a camsponsor, how many of those are there with $1000 minimums... __________________ Buying sites with income, paying by paxum, hit me up