News Putin likes the Iran deal

[Barry-xlovecam]

Putin likes the Iran deal - Business Insider

Figures ...

[pornmasta]

:wehateporn:

[Barry-xlovecam]

In other news:

Iranian court orders U.S. to pay $50 billion in damages

Read more: Iranian court orders U.S. to pay $50 billion in damages - Nick Gass - POLITICO

Check is in the mail ...

[dyna mo]

i've yet to read the deal terms, what do you think about it Barry?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Just came out Mo.

Graham: Iran Deal 'Akin to Declaring War' on Israel - Bloomberg View

I am waiting for "The Donald" to react.

U.S. Department of State

watch their eyes ...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Obama and Biden <rolls eyes>

They are saving face -- why would this work out better than the nuclear non proliferation deals with North Korea?

1. Iran has indigenous uranium mines in Iran.
2. Iran has a proven history of covert nuclear activities.
3. Who really knows what stockpiles of weapons grade uranium or plutonium are hidden in Iran -- only what the Iranians admit to.

This is another Colin Powell at the UN moment waiting to happen.

The real problem is: What is to stop Iran from just barring the International Atomic Energy Agency access and having acrimony at the UN while the remaining centrifuges are used for weapons grade enrichment buying time with procedural belligerent argument?

I don't think that if Iran had nuclear weapons they would use them -- they would be turned into a glass parking lot and they know it. However, Iran is the supplier to various militant, resistance and terrorist groups and they may use dirty bombs not only in the Middle East but in Jihad on Western Civilization. The "nothing to lose mindset" or "the suicide bomber" mentality ...

I am glad I am not 20-years-old facing a future like this

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Obama and Biden <rolls eyes>

They are saving face -- why would this work out better than the nuclear non proliferation deals with North Korea?

1. Iran has indigenous uranium mines in Iran.
2. Iran has a proven history of covert nuclear activities.
3. Who really knows what stockpiles of weapons grade uranium or plutonium are hidden in Iran -- only what the Iranians admit to.

This is another Colin Powell at the UN moment waiting to happen.

The real problem is: What is to stop Iran from just barring the International Atomic Energy Agency access and having acrimony at the UN while the remaining centrifuges are used for weapons grade enrichment buying time with procedural belligerent argument?

I don't think that if Iran had nuclear weapons they would use them -- they would be turned into a glass parking lot and they know it. However, Iran is the supplier to various militant, resistance and terrorist groups and they may use dirty bombs not only in the Middle East but in Jihad on Western Civilization. The "nothing to lose mindset" or "the suicide bomber" mentality ...

I am glad I am not 20-years-old facing a future like this

Here is what most people don't understand.... There will always be some kind of threat, and yet none of those threats really pan out. I am STILL waiting for Obama to take away our guns.

Eventually Iran will have nuclear weapons. This is not a "if", it's more of a "when" type of thing. The best thing we can do is slow them down. Pakistan has nukes, yet no one seems to be concerned about that.

And yet sixty years later we still deal with North Korea.

After so many years of seeing this you just sort of say to yourself "Who the fuck cares any more?". Does anyone really think that Iran is going to a nuke and then destroy Israel in five years? Don't be silly.

This is all just fear mongering.

[dyna mo]

rochard,first you state iran will achieve nuclear weapons, then you claim a nuclear peace accord is fear mongering

non-sequitur

[Barry-xlovecam]

Well, the USA and the USSR never attacked each other with ICBMs.

Jihadists are the real threat with dirty bombs.

Pakistan is a real threat in that aspect. Who gave safe harbor to Osama bin-Laden? Pakistanis are known to have helped Jihadists and give safe harbor to the Taliban -- wittingly or not.

[dyna mo]

so it looks like the deal pushes out iran's nuke capability timeline from 2-3 months to 1 year. if it's all on the up&up, i'm fine with that accord. it looks like we're about to bro-up with iran and bump SA down the list of preferred ME partners. whatev

[Barry-xlovecam]

It will be interesting to see the debate in Congress.

Obama created a lose-lose scenario for this wannabe Democrat successors.

[dyna mo]

it's painfully clear BO has no real foreign policy strategy. by all accounts, he's leaving the world in a mess for the next USA president. not that foreign policy (of any nation) has ever worked. but it's been more of an afterthought for the current sitting president, the guy i voted for.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's painfully clear BO has no real foreign policy strategy. by all accounts, he's leaving the world in a mess for the next USA president. not that foreign policy (of any nation) has ever worked. but it's been more of an afterthought for the current sitting president, the guy i voted for.

Like starting two wars and laying the ground work for more turmoil was a great forgin policy by Bush? The guy whom said " I don't care where bin laden is".

Let's not also forget that North Korea tested their first nuke under Bush's watch.. He sure was effective on forgin policy..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Like starting two wars and laying the ground work for more turmoil was a great forgin policy by Bush? The guy whom said " I don't care where bin laden is".

Let's not also forget that North Korea tested their first nuke under Bush's watch.. He sure was effective on forgin policy..

i realized a long time ago you fail at quoting my posts where i've pointed such things out, including foreign policy in its entirety over the history of foreign policy across the planet is flawed. just as i included (yet again) in my post you just quoted.

but hey, we all know you have your agenda and your need to stick to it, even if it means distorting reality.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i realized a long time ago you fail at quoting my posts where i've pointed such things out, including foreign policy in its entirety over the history of foreign policy across the planet is flawed. just as i included (yet again) in my post you just quoted.

but hey, we all know you have your agenda and your need to stick to it, even if it means distorting reality.

I just quote what you say..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

I just quote what you say..

and that's actually a lot better than your participating in the topic. and we all appreciate that.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Well, the USA and the USSR never attacked each other with ICBMs.

This is my point. We were on the verge of war for decades. Yet it never happened. It can't happen. Because if it ever does it will end in nuclear war and tens of millions will die in days.

If Iran ever gets a nuclear bomb... Nothing will change. Iran would have the ability to destroy Israel. But within hours, Iran would cease to exist. And they know this.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Jihadists are the real threat with dirty bombs.

Pakistan is a real threat in that aspect. Who gave safe harbor to Osama bin-Laden? Pakistanis are known to have helped Jihadists and give safe harbor to the Taliban -- wittingly or not.

Yet years later Jihadists and Pakistan are really no more of a threat than they were ten years ago. And ten years from now there will be a completely new threat - Keep in mind that ISIS or ISIL didn't exist a few years ago.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

and that's actually a lot better than your participating in the topic. and we all appreciate that.

Oh please.. You right weenies are notorious for changing the subject everytime it's something you don't like.. Oh Trump called Mexicans rapist.. Let's talk about Obama and the evil liberal media!

[dyna mo]

trump and mexicans still eh, you need some new material. and that's just doing what you're exclaiming i do, the topic here is Iran and nukes.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

trump and mexicans still eh, you need some new material. and that's just doing what you're exclaiming i do, the topic here is Iran and nukes.

Oh really.. So how long have you guys been whining about Obama care, Benghazi, Hillary's emails... Ect..ect..

Let me guess... Oh dats difrant!

Yet 2 weeks after Trump says stupid shit it's old news...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by crockett

Oh really.. So how long have you guys been whining about Obama care, Benghazi, Hillary's emails... Ect..ect..

Let me guess... Oh dats difrant!

Yet 2 weeks after Trump says stupid shit it's old news...

you don't understand the difference between a non-elected political candidate making a comment v an elected official deleting state emails.

and yo, heads-up, Trump made that sound bite a month ago.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

you don't understand the difference between a non-elected political candidate making a comment v an elected official deleting state emails.

and yo, heads-up, Trump made that sound bite a month ago.

Yea just like Trump and his nutty birther conspiracy is old news.. It's funny how you guys like to forget the dumb shit your guys do but carry on forever over Obama..

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's painfully clear BO has no real foreign policy strategy.

Sadly people didn't pick up on this 8 years ago

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Obama and Biden <rolls eyes>

They are saving face -- why would this work out better than the nuclear non proliferation deals with North Korea?

1. Iran has indigenous uranium mines in Iran.
2. Iran has a proven history of covert nuclear activities.
3. Who really knows what stockpiles of weapons grade uranium or plutonium are hidden in Iran -- only what the Iranians admit to.

This is another Colin Powell at the UN moment waiting to happen.

The real problem is: What is to stop Iran from just barring the International Atomic Energy Agency access and having acrimony at the UN while the remaining centrifuges are used for weapons grade enrichment buying time with procedural belligerent argument?

I don't think that if Iran had nuclear weapons they would use them -- they would be turned into a glass parking lot and they know it. However, Iran is the supplier to various militant, resistance and terrorist groups and they may use dirty bombs not only in the Middle East but in Jihad on Western Civilization. The "nothing to lose mindset" or "the suicide bomber" mentality ...

I am glad I am not 20-years-old facing a future like this

Funny, they sound like so many other countries. Iran just tryin to fit in. The only guy the world sees with a screw loose in the ME at the moment is Nutanyahu. You have been paralytically radicalized.

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is my point. We were on the verge of war for decades. Yet it never happened. It can't happen. Because if it ever does it will end in nuclear war and tens of millions will die in days.

If Iran ever gets a nuclear bomb... Nothing will change. Iran would have the ability to destroy Israel. But within hours, Iran would cease to exist. And they know this.



Yet years later Jihadists and Pakistan are really no more of a threat than they were ten years ago. And ten years from now there will be a completely new threat - Keep in mind that ISIS or ISIL didn't exist a few years ago.

And now Pakistan, China and India have made a security deal with China. This should be fun. Players for WW3 lining up, yeah baby!

[SuckOnThis]

Of course Putin likes it, Russia is part of the UN Security Council along with China, Germany, The US, Great Britain, and France...all who was part of these negotiations. Something the right wing doesn't understand. Oh, but its all Obama.



Republicans were screaming the same rhetoric when Clinton pushed for peace in Northern Ireland, now most people couldn't tell you who the IRA was.

Fucking right wingers hate peace.

[evy97]

Everybody likes the Iran deal.

Except: Israel, Saudi, Qatar, Republicans, ISIS. Quite the collection.

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by evy97

Everybody likes the Iran deal.

Except: Israel, Saudi, Qatar, Republicans, ISIS. Quite the collection.

They need their own planet. Maybe the sun is available.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by evy97

Everybody likes the Iran deal.

Except: Israel, Saudi, Qatar, Republicans, ISIS. Quite the collection.

the strangest thing is Saudi is very upset about US assisting the iraqis/iranians against the ISIS

which is odd, as if ISIS were to gain control of the territories of iraq, iran probably would be an option for 'who is next', and then after that most of the people on that exception list.. yet they seem to act like it would never ever happen

[Dvae]

When Jimmy Carter criticizes your foreign policy you have hit rock bottom.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

the strangest thing is Saudi is very upset about US assisting the iraqis/iranians against the ISIS

which is odd, as if ISIS were to gain control of the territories of iraq, iran probably would be an option for 'who is next', and then after that most of the people on that exception list.. yet they seem to act like it would never ever happen

The Sunni Iraqis -- no. The Iraqi Shiite elements -- yes.

They are afraid that the Nuclear Agreement will free up Iranian money and trade earnings that might ,and probably will, be given to radical Shiite elements that be used to attack the Sunni (Wahhabist) followers of the extremist form of Islam that the majority practice in Saudi Arabia.

It's an extreme case of my enemy's enemy is my friend until that enemy becomes mine.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Dvae

When Jimmy Carter criticizes your foreign policy you have hit rock bottom.

I would discount anything Jimmy Carter has to say about Iran ....

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I would discount anything Jimmy Carter has to say about Iran ....

lol... I thought he was an expert on Iran. He has probably spent more sleepless nights thinking about Iran than anybody in history

[poncabare]

fuck these muslims and drill for our own oil. send em back to the poverty level