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Old 07-26-2015, 10:19 AM   #1
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"An FDNY recruit is getting a third chance to pass the training academy after collecting top firefighter pay for a year in desk jobs, sources told The Post.
Choeurlyne Doirin-Holder, 39 — one of four women among 320 current probies in training — failed midway through a Fire Academy class in 2013, and returned to her former job as an EMT.




A year ago, a classmate called Doirin-Holder “the most pathetic specimen of physical fitness I’ve ever seen,” saying she failed to run a required 1.5 miles in 12 minutes, stopping to walk, and got winded walking up stairs.

Doirin-Holder gets top firefighter pay, a base $76,488 after five years, because she is one of 282 “priority hires” who Brooklyn federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis ordered must get preference.
Two other female priority hires in Doirin-Holder’s first academy class, now ages 41 and 44, did well, sources said. They passed the Functional Skills Test, or FST, a tough obstacle course of tasks such as climbing six flights of stairs in full gear and dragging dummies.


​Doirin-Holder now stands to benefit from the FDNY’s newly watered-down standards, critics said.
In a July 7 letter to firefighter union president Steve Cassidy, Fire Commissioner Daniel Nigro denied that standards have been lowered. But he confirmed that probies no longer have to pass the grueling FST if they do well on academics and practical skills, or individual tasks.
Last May, the FDNY graduated probie Rebecca Wax, 33, the first to fail the FST.
In another change, probies who fail the 1.5 mile run can demonstrate adequate aerobic capacity on a Stairmaster machine, Nigro said.


FDNY recruit failed her way into $81,000 desk job | New York Post


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Fuck, I can't even pronounce her NAME.

Pathetic. I live in NYC. Time to get some more smoke detectors and sprinklers cause now I'm not trusting these idiot fat fucks to come rescue me. And I live in a ground floor apartment. LOL
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pretty shameful for those firefighters that bravely fulfill their duties - I don't even want to know what especially the 9/11 veterans think about that
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this entire ordeal stems from a discrimatory written exam, why would she have priority for the physical part of the exams?


On July 16, 2012, Judge Garaufis ordered the New York City Fire Department to implement racial quotas to address grievances from minorities who failed entrance exams. His ruling requires hiring off a list of priority hire candidates, two of every five newly hired firefighters to be black and one of every five Hispanic, until the department has fulfilled the court-ordered quota of 186 black and 107 Hispanic hires or until the list is exhausted. This is due to a lawsuit that alleges two placement exams (Written Exams 7029 or 2043) for the FDNY were discriminatory against blacks and Hispanics, because fewer minorities passed the exam than whites.
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Promoting lowest common denominator is the new PC policy.
Thank various liberal retard groups for this.
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This is due to a lawsuit that alleges two placement exams (Written Exams 7029 or 2043) for the FDNY were discriminatory against blacks and Hispanics, because fewer minorities passed the exam than whites.
Unbelievable....
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i'm thinking they'd rather lower the physical standard rather than the mental to make the quota. but in my experience, when i'm in over my head physically, i'm then impacted mentally.
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"The FDNY for the first time in its history will allow someone who failed its crucial physical fitness test to join the Bravest, The Post has learned.




"Rebecca Wax, 33, is set to graduate Tuesday from the Fire Academy without passing the Functional Skills Training test, a grueling obstacle course of job-related tasks performed in full gear with a limited air supply, an insider has revealed.

?They?re going to allow the first person to graduate without passing because this administration has lowered the standard,? said the insider, who is familiar with the training.

?We?re being asked to go into a fire with someone who isn?t 100 percent qualified,? the source said. ?Our job is a team effort. If there?s a weak link in the chain, either civilians or our members can die.?


Other female firefighters aren?t pleased about Wax?s treatment, either.

?A lot of the girls in the field are pissed because they feel like they?re getting lumped into the same category of a female getting special treatment and not meeting the same standards as the males,? the insider added. ?It devalues what the women in the field have accomplished.?


Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test | New York Post


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Get ready for the flood of law suits once they are assigned to a station. You know damn well that other fighters who passed everything are gonna look and treat them different
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Her fellow FF'rs are going to ostracize her

if Chicago Fire is any indication. :D
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:30 PM   #13
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Her fellow FF'rs are going to ostracize her

if Chicago Fire is any indication. :D
And worse, every legit female fire fighter will wonder what people think of her each time she wears her uniform in public.
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What do you expect when you give a generation participation trophies and tell them failing is good enough, that everyone is a champion and a star and that everyone is special and stop keeping score in sports? You end up with a generation of self entitled assholes who are going through life bewildered and embittered by the fact that the trophies and praise stopped.
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This is exactly who you want to respond to the emergency call to save your family... a weak, self entitled, self centered asshole who can't be bothered to try at life.
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This is exactly who you want to respond to the emergency call to save your family... a weak, self entitled, self centered asshole who can't be bothered to try at life.

And this is the shape they're in preparing for and taking the test. Imagine what pitiful shape they are in 5 years down the road when responding to a call.


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They lowered the standards for who can become peace officers as well, look how awesome that has worked.
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Pretty dreadful state of affairs at FDNY. My heart goes out to future victims and comrades who will suffer for their lack of skills and abilities.
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They call it equal opportunity hiring up here. It is complete BS. When I was in high school I wanted to be a fire fighter. I was basically told by my guidence councillor not to bother because I was not what they were looking for. Basically because I was a white, straight male. I could have aced all the tests but they were required to hire a certain percentage of black,Asian, female, etc etc.
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And this is the shape they're in preparing for and taking the test. Imagine what pitiful shape they are in 5 years down the road when responding to a call.


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Seattle is like this with police. You get pulled over by a state cop and its a 27 year old athlete. You get stopped by a city of Seattle cop and its a morbidly obese moron thats out of breath just walking up to the car window. It's sad. This society seems at times to just be a huge race to the bottom in every single aspect of it where the lowest common denominator is setting and continually lowering the standards.
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If I recall correctly, fighter pilots need to have perfect vision. I'm fine with that and totally makes sense.

Not being able to run 1.5 miles in 12 minutes is pitiful.
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Seattle is like this with police. You get pulled over by a state cop and its a 27 year old athlete. You get stopped by a city of Seattle cop and its a morbidly obese moron thats out of breath just walking up to the car window. It's sad. This society seems at times to just be a huge race to the bottom in every single aspect of it where the lowest common denominator is setting and continually lowering the standards.
From what I recall, state police still have pretty high standards. The FBI just recently decided that they were going to enact high-level physical standards once again as well after letting agents go lax.

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I hope that cunt of a judge has a fire in his house and he dies because that piece of shit affirmative action firefighter can't get to him fast enough
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the FBI switched back to smaller caliber guns because a 10 millimeter was too much for the cunts to handle
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I do not agree with the hiring practices.
Sorry, but fireman should be 185 cms...100 kgs...and fit as fuck.
They get the pay for danger and to keep themselves in tip top shape.
Anyone who can't pass the physical should be phased out.
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How about this NY Fireman, who has just a slight problem: he's afraid of fire.


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Yep. If your running up the stairs to the North and you turn right. what direction are you facing.

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And if they'll do that for crucial jobs like first responders, imagine what jobs with zero metrics, such as every job for the federal government, are like.
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I do not agree with the hiring practices.
Sorry, but fireman should be 185 cms...100 kgs...and fit as fuck.
They get the pay for danger and to keep themselves in tip top shape.
Anyone who can't pass the physical should be phased out.
the fuck does height have to do with it?

i'd take 5'9 and strong over 6'7 pile of bones any day..
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the fuck does height have to do with it?

i'd take 5'9 and strong over 6'7 pile of bones any day..

The average Navy SEAL is 5' 10" and 175 pounds.
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Fuck, I can't even pronounce her NAME.

Pathetic. I live in NYC. Time to get some more smoke detectors and sprinklers cause now I'm not trusting these idiot fat fucks to come rescue me. And I live in a ground floor apartment. LOL
This already happening in europe, I call it the dummying of the western world. Resulting in the same criticism and view in our backyard like most replies in this thread.


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I could not have said it better but for one thing it's not the generations fault but those educating them. So who the hell approved project mediocre anyway ?!
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i'd take 5'9 and strong over 6'7 pile of bones any day..
Eh Napolean..what happens if you have to reach the top shelf?...you know where the trapped kid is. Height matters then

I know you are a strong guy, at least you post you are....hell i am not 185 cms...182...but I was not talking about skin and bones. Tall and strong..very fit...these should be basic requirements.
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The standards of this country have become so low that you would need to crawl under a herpes virus to get any lower.

The collective IQ is has dropped for each year the country is old.

The country was a great experience but never meant to last...it was unsustainable and now equalizing with the rest of the earth.

I am not gonna lie and say that I am not extremely glad to have been a white male at this period in the history of the USA...we had a good run but I am afraid it's all down him from here boys...

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