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Old 07-24-2015, 05:57 AM   #51
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You may get more selling it in the UK than in Spain.
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Old 07-24-2015, 06:56 AM   #52
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Many an invasion force commander burnt his ships when he landed and said "Men, there is no turning back! To victory!" Well, that is mostly fairy tale but it sounds good.

I burnt through $42K in cash and credit when I got started in 2001 -- my ''education'' paid off many times over but it wasn't easy -- good luck -- you will need it. I think this business is a lot tougher today to succeed in than it was in 2001 ...
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:36 AM   #53
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Damn you! I got caught out reading it on mobile. Normally check all links prior to clicking!
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I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?

- A few samples of the content
- A screenshot of traffic stats for the past year
- Sales for the past year? (Not dollar amounts if you don't want to, but maybe sales frequency?)
- Affiliate sales stats too please
- Maybe a short log of changes to your site in the past year too?
- A screenshot of your website as it used to appear.
- Also any ideas about what you think went wrong.

The idea is to see what your sales used to be like, and to to try to figure out what has changed that caused your sales to drop off. And maybe there will be a few people here who can help you to identify some problems, suggest improvements, and help get you back on track. I for one would be happy to contribute some time to the cause.
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Old 07-24-2015, 08:17 AM   #55
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How are you going to get traffic? Domains, designs, etc can all be done for under $100 if you really want to cut corners
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you should be able to get some good cash for that skyline, it's a legendary car, if it's in good shape. then use the proceeds to buy a more reasonable car and invest the balance into the site.
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I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?
Fuck you Mhark. Your lisp is too hoth to resisth.

Maybe they should stop trying to sell paysite access.
Give free "asswithclass" memberships to build traffic.
Nat could do live shows. Gary too! I'd pay 99 cents a minute to watch him wank.
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Old 07-24-2015, 12:00 PM   #58
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it's a legendary car
yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.
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Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

lol, I'm very happy here in Spain thanks. I liked this photo, Gary chooses others but I like me in this picture.

I can tell you, relaxing in the sun, live cam on & shooting once or twice a week, I love my life. It's been 30degrees for the past 4 months, I had christmas dinner on my balcony, I've enjoyed amazing food & can most definitely say, I would rather be here than in the UK any day!
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If your content is good and the surfers have an interest in what you have to offer, the design isn't the be-all and end-all aspect of your site.

While we would love to do an amazing site from the ground up for you, it's not something we advise selling your car to make happen. Our solid advice would be to scale down to one site as suggested, and consider using Elevated X with a hosting package. You could use their default templates and we could do a nice logo/header/background design to customize them a little. Then you could see how the site did and what adjustments you need to make ? or if the site will even work at all, since sadly not everyone who wants to make a great site is actually successful at it.

It?s great to try, but you don?t need to put so much risk into it. Start off small and build your design and additional sites if you like as you gain more revenue. That way if it doesn?t work out, you can walk away losing a small investment.

You seem determined to make money in this business and willing to put in the time. Cams are your friend and I see you working them. That's what it takes. Keep creating content and figure out the best way to utilize your traffic if this is your passion. Remember to keep it simple and content is king.

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Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
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yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.
It was a lovely car, but here in Spain, we hardly drive a car now as we're always either walking or working. Now with all the money to play with. We can create a much better site with higher quality content our members shall appreciate. But thanks for the support & thanks for liking our car, it was great traveling here in, we've had her for almost 10 years. Many a memory & now, maybe aim for the new GTR
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Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed
oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum
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oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum
Try to get Natalie to look like she is having fun in the photos too.
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Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?
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yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.
cars are a dime a dozen. if you're at the stage where you're weighing selling a investment grade sports car v investing in your business, the answer is clear for me. folks struggling to launch their own gig don't need a skyline to get the groceries. and when that investment makes an ROI, there will be plenty of skylines in the classifieds.
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Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.
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1. Get Epoch as secondary processer for the cascade IF you do more than $20,000 a year with CCBill. If not, wait til you do. Epoch costs $1000 yearly.
2. Hire a designer to tweak your current design/re-design only the 'important parts' (main landing page, join page). I don't know your Members Area so we're probably just talking the Tour so only a couple pages are needed.

Remember too that any major change could hurt bookmarkers. Depends on your traffic and promotions. Good luck with everything!!
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Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.
well, there is that to consider eh. i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.
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well, there is that to consider eh. i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.
Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain
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We've chose a domain relevant to me personally, we're also going 4k
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Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain
why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.
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Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
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why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.
I wasn't directing it at you

I'd respected your post & merely spoke back to you with regards to someones comment that you'd laughed with

It's all good

& yes, we've exactly thought the same thing, maybe in a few years, purchase the new GTR

dyna mo, you're a great guy & we both have no beef with you
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My recommendation ..... honestly?

Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

Who can fap to that?


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Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

Who can fap to that?.
well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment
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well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment



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erm, no??? Duh, it would mean my wife is my partner
we all know its you Gary.

but keep treating people like morons and keep telling lies, then wonder why people never trust you to promote your sites.

if you start to be honest and admit your gary to avoid your ban, people will have respect for you.

but feel free to keep bullshitting.

we are not stupid.
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Your current predicament would seem to suggest otherwise.

For your best chance of succeeding you need to adopt a niche that Natalie actually suits, the glamour look is definitely not going to work, "Divvy" is correct, you need to brand around slaggy/cheap look that comes natural to the model, perhaps even offer members meets to bump up the subscription appeal, bareback gangbangs, gloryhole, dogging and anything else proper nasty that's where you want to be. Also you need to shoot your content in the UK, the Spanish holiday look just does nothing, perhaps move back, get on benefits, get a council flat and bingo, you'll be quids in Kerching
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Your current predicament would seem to suggest otherwise.

For your best chance of succeeding you need to adopt a niche that Natalie actually suits, the glamour look is definitely not going to work, "Divvy" is correct, you need to brand around slaggy/cheap look that comes natural to the model, perhaps even offer members meets to bump up the subscription appeal, bareback gangbangs, gloryhole, dogging and anything else proper nasty that's where you want to be. Also you need to shoot your content in the UK, the Spanish holiday look just does nothing, perhaps move back, get on benefits, get a council flat and bingo, you'll be quids in Kerching
yes

the chav area would be big bucks

it makes no sense to shoot the content in spain for you
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You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?
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You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?
Exactly. This fool uses this picture (actually only from the waist up for the main pic on his main site)

He also has a site called bhalasada and wouj which have to be as bad as arsewithclass
His SEO on the bhalasadsa page is <title>splash bhala sada</title>

This is the next image you see after clicking the enter link

Doesn't exactly scream success does it? Perhaps they should both pair up.
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You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?

Not realy

I am making sales

plus this is now just a hobby

i run a few businesses

sorry
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You sound like Natalie
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Hey dickhead, being on the dole isn't a business!
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Divvy talking about chavs and slagging them off is priceless. When I saw him for the first time at a webmaster meet in London I thought this prick was homeless. As the night progressed, I changed my mind and came to the conclusion that he was a serial killer in the making. That wedding dress video wasn't all that surprising when I saw it.

Here's some of what Divvy's 1000's of members get treated to:




Divvy, you slagging someone who is making an effort is ridiculous.
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Did this lass have her hair extensions done by a one-eyed badger?



People in glass houses Divvy ....
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You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?


moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
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moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
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Well said.....
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i run a few businesses

sorry
Ahhh, a hobbyist doling out advice. I forgot that's what this place mostly is now, my bad.
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moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
I don't think Gary's a bad bloke either. He seems genuine enough and all he gets on here is constant abuse. And by virtue of association so does his wife which is a crying shame.

Gary shouldn't even be banned here but things are what they are.

Someone needs to shake some sense into Gary. He's industrious enough it would appear but he needs to ground himself with an idea and run with it. Not flip flop all over the place. This new 4K idea isn't jiving for me. Nat is an amateur - no need for the 4K experience in my opinion.

Hope they do well, I really do.
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Gary, just check out ModelCentro: Award-Winning Paid Fan Club Platform.. there are over 4500 models on the platform already who don't pay anything for hosting or design. You can get your site live tomorrow.. and just concentrate on marketing.
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This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

This is your content after all these years?

And you wonder why you make no sales.

Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

You need to shut the fuck up. Your website Bhala Sada, or whatever that ugly thing is called, is an insult to all serious webmasters.
Your "models" are so fucking ugly that they need to be euthanised. You low life miserable dogshit eating cunt...

FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR UGLY ASS WEBSITE!
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Sounds to me like you are all over the place. You have a site and a company, and have shot what you consider great content, but.... why start from scratch? If your car is running rough, you don't tear it down and rebuild it from scratch?

Why not have a long talk with someone in the industry who knows a little bit about what they are doing and who might be wiling to give some advice.

Either way... Best of luck you guys.
Agreed with you and Mark. Great advice from both.
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moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
Well said!
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Fuck you Mhark. Your lisp is too hoth to resisth.

Maybe they should stop trying to sell paysite access.
Give free "asswithclass" memberships to build traffic.
Nat could do live shows. Gary too! I'd pay 99 cents a minute to watch him wank.
Fuck-you right back. Here's an adult website business that has fallen on hard times who would probably like a little help and advice, and all you can do is toss insults around.

I'm pretty sure that when you started your business in adult, whatever it is that you do, you had some help and advice. Maybe its your turn now?

Natalie: We have worked with Zuzana in the past and LOVE their work. You can't go wrong in their hands. Good luck to you!!
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