#1 Porn Star Recruitment Site For Sale

[TangibleAsset]

Hey everyone,

Before anyone flames me, Eric knows I am posting this thread here instead of the BST section because I am going to be buying a sticky thread. My name is Ryan and I own the largest porn star recruitment site on the internet. I am currently in the process of auctioning off my site on Flippa. My site is ranked #1 on Google, Bing, Yahoo, and all the major search engines for high search volume terms such as "how to become a porn star", "porn star application", and many other keywords (See Google Analytics overview video below for more info). I'm currently receiving just under 50,000 unique visitors per month and have anywhere from 50 to 150 people submitting my online porn star application every day. The application is 5 pages long and the information collected is very detailed. You can see what type of information is collected by watching the Application Overview video below.

Video Walkthroughs:

Application Overview: https://youtu.be/oCnZdfAR6no
Female Application (Detailed): https://youtu.be/vbjMkirKldQ
Female Applicants (Quick View): https://youtu.be/JrM6dCfZpfM
Proof of Application Volume: https://youtu.be/JLaGW0KHSEI
Proof of Google Rankings: https://youtu.be/IDwrmvjAeaU
Brief Google Analytics Walkthrough: http://youtu.be/VWDF-oKBo8c

Link To The Auction: https://flippa.com/5313409-1-porn-st...ations-per-day

Please give me your email address if you would like to be added to Google Analytics.

About The Site:
As you can see from the videos above, the site is WordPress based and uses GravityForms to manage all the forms on the website. There are currently a little over 20,000 applications in the database. About 2,500 of those are from when the website was first ranked for a couple months back in 2012, the rest are fresh. Not all applicants submit photos with their applications but the majority of them do. Out of the 20,000 applications, I would estimate that 1/3 of the applicants are women and the other 2/3rd are male and tranny. There are also around 3,500 emails from people who are interested in joining a porn forum although one has not yet been created (See the Forum page on the site).

Monetization: This site has barely been monetized due to me having a regular job and my wife being uncomfortable with the whole thing. I've never called or followed up with a single applicant. Right now, after someone applies they are taken to https://www.pornhowto.com/application/received where they are told they should sign up as a webcam model and that's it. I have sent out a few email blasts asking people to sign up as cam models through my affiliate link but that's it and it's only been 1 email per applicant. I had to remove the Crakrevenue ads I had on the site to be compliant with Flippa's TOS but they were generating me ~$5/day through Slutroulette. I was also making a couple hundred dollars every 2 weeks through Chaturbate in $1 sign ups and $50 cam model referrals. Chaturbate switched my account to 20% revshare a couple months ago because I was sending them so many people that weren't buying tokens so I pulled their ads and replaced them with Jasmin ads (the people I was sending to Chaturbate want to make money, not spend it). I honestly consider this site pre-revenue because I never really monetized it properly. Someone could make a lot of money if they set up a sales funnel and actually interacted with the applicants on a personal level. The majority of the people who apply seem pretty desperate so I think it would be pretty easy to persuade them to work for your cam studio while you "find them work". Other monetization angles I've thought of but have never implemented include charging an application fee for males, selling penis enlargement pills/devices to anyone who lists their dick size under X", selling sexual health related pharmaceuticals (i.e. viagra, cialis, etc), creating a 'Hire A Pornstar' page, and networking with people in the adult industry to actually try to get the hot female or gay and transgender applicants hooked up with a modeling agency or adult talent agency.

I'm available to answer questions or Skype, just let me know!

[NALEM]

Email me at alex AT nalem DOT com

Be so kind and mention this thread. Thanks!

[Spunky]

Best of luck with the sale,looks great

[Pad]

crazy powerful site in the right hands good luck

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by NALEM

Email me at alex AT nalem DOT com

Be so kind and mention this thread. Thanks!

Email sent. Thank you for your interest. If anyone wants to talk on Skype just shoot me a message!

[Google Expert]

[Sly]

Have you contacted the talent agencies? Seems like you are burning these leads using them for WebCams. A lot of them would be nonsense, but I'm sure there are a few gems.

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by Sly

Have you contacted the talent agencies? Seems like you are burning these leads using them for WebCams. A lot of them would be nonsense, but I'm sure there are a few gems.

Nope, never really explored that route.

[1726cash]

Great looking+

[sinclair]

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

Nope, never really explored that route.

add a few key questions to the application to qualify them for a particular agent/agency and every single one would pay for these leads.

[Pad]

Originally Posted by sinclair

add a few key questions to the application to qualify them for a particular agent/agency and every single one would pay for these leads.

^ this

if it was my site it definitely wouldn't be for sale. i'd be thinking long-term revenue

[mineistaken]

Damn, all this and you are not selling leads to porn agencies. Crazy wasted potential.
Forget about posting those crackrevenue etc stats, whoever buys it would not care about that monetization route...

And good luck with the sale.

[Relic]

Not all applicants submit photos with their applications but the majority of them do

What % submit photos?

[ruff]

I wonder how many copies of your site are being made right now? Any good idea is worth stealing these days.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Think he fucked her afterwards?

[PHT]

Originally Posted by Relic

What % submit photos?

50-60%

Originally Posted by ruff

I wonder how many copies of your site are being made right now? Any good idea is worth stealing these days.

Making a site like this is one thing, getting it ranked is another. I'm not worried about that.

[PHT]

Originally Posted by sinclair

add a few key questions to the application to qualify them for a particular agent/agency and every single one would pay for these leads.

What kind of questions?

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Damn, all this and you are not selling leads to porn agencies. Crazy wasted potential.
Forget about posting those crackrevenue etc stats, whoever buys it would not care about that monetization route...

And good luck with the sale.

Any porn agencies you have in mind?

[Blazing]

Email sent...

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Sly

Think he fucked her afterwards?

Hard, and with that baseball bat...

[thehand]

Please hit me up on Skype: tim.siner

[PHT]

Adding you on Skype now.

[Blazing]

Originally Posted by thehand

Please hit me up on Skype: tim.siner

Dude.. stay out of my bid on this one.. LOL

[thehand]

Originally Posted by Blazing

Dude.. stay out of my bid on this one.. LOL

[PHT]

I've given a few walkthroughs via Skype today. Let me know if you have any questions for me!

[EngineCash]

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib

Ooooh, this blonde is so fucking hot...

[EliteWebmaster]

Originally Posted by EngineCash

Ooooh, this blonde is so fucking hot...

Her name is Erin Andrews and she once offered herself to take away Tim Tebow's virginity (true story). Further proof that Timmy is gay. She's a whore, she sleeps with various athletes/personalities.

People who Erin Andrews is rumored to have slept with.... | TMB

[patadeperro]

My two cents on your action, you cant ask for that much money based on the potential of the site, professinal buyers (the one who can really pay) calculate the value of the site on the monthly revenue, since you have no revenue, the more they are paying is the development of the site and the SEO effort, no more than 5k.

Good luck on your auction.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by patadeperro

My two cents on your action, you cant ask for that much money based on the potential of the site, professinal buyers (the one who can really pay) calculate the value of the site on the monthly revenue, since you have no revenue, the more they are paying is the development of the site and the SEO effort, no more than 5k.

Good luck on your auction.

Well I see people bidding on flippa and not him asking something.

And while I agree with potential vs revenue comment, you also have to value at least leads he has.
I mean should he sell it for 0$ if he had no ads/revenue? Nope. It does not work that simple.

Also leads are currently flowing in so they are value/earnings (to the person who would utilize them) not potential.

[Kelli58]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Also leads are currently flowing in so they are value/earnings (to the person who would utilize them) not potential.

I agree. Those who are smart enough to see the value of those incoming leads know the site has value because they know what those leads could mean in terms of profit.

Model recruitment can be rather profitable. That's why you have guys going to clubs and college parties all the time (and yes trolling Facebook) trying to recruit young, hot girls. It's not because they are in it for the fun of it - they want the cash.

What I don't understand is why this site never hooked up directly with an established porn agency in the first place and turned this site into something profitable for himself?

I get that his wife was never very comfortable with the idea, I read that. But I sure bet she would be happy with the money it brought in.

[omgt]

i think its generally accepted that the person who buys it will be developing it and will either use or know what to do with the leads, he already accepted he had problems with that, if someone knows what to do with the leads then the problem is'nt there, and "more" value is created in the site.

Originally Posted by patadeperro

My two cents on your action, you cant ask for that much money based on the potential of the site, professinal buyers (the one who can really pay) calculate the value of the site on the monthly revenue, since you have no revenue, the more they are paying is the development of the site and the SEO effort, no more than 5k.

Good luck on your auction.

[Pad]

does it collect partials on page 1?

[PHT]

Originally Posted by Pad

does it collect partials on page 1?

No partials, all applications collected are fully completed (although the pictures on page 5 are optional). If the new buyer wants to collect the data on first page of the application (name, gender, email, phone #, etc) the form can be easily modified to collect that information as well. As it stands, if someone completes the first few pages of the application and then leaves, I do not capture the lead.

[TangibleAsset]

22 hours left in the auction. Just wanted to give everyone an overview of what was sent to me in the past 24 hours.

[TangibleAsset]

Some of the pictures included in 3 applications from above:

[patadeperro]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Well I see people bidding on flippa and not him asking something.

And while I agree with potential vs revenue comment, you also have to value at least leads he has.
I mean should he sell it for 0$ if he had no ads/revenue? Nope. It does not work that simple.

Also leads are currently flowing in so they are value/earnings (to the person who would utilize them) not potential.

The problem with this approach is that the "potential' can be unlimited and absolutely imaginary, based on no real measures, no real cash flow.

Here on planet earth and the affiliates that make money know that cash is king, if you see the biding they are paying him the design, and the SEO work (5k when I am writing this, 10 times less what he is asking for, see the "buy it now" price) which seems fair to me.

As I said in my first post people are valuating his work (design and SEO) and are paying accordingly, the "potential" earnings of the site are a made up measure, but I guess the market will speak.

Good luck on the auction.

[EliteWebmaster]

Anyone who uses Gravity forms, what are the advantages? Is Gravity Forms the best? I am just not feeling it.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by patadeperro

The problem with this approach is that the "potential' can be unlimited and absolutely imaginary, based on no real measures, no real cash flow.

Here on planet earth and the affiliates that make money know that cash is king, if you see the biding they are paying him the design, and the SEO work (5k when I am writing this, 10 times less what he is asking for, see the "buy it now" price) which seems fair to me.

As I said in my first post people are valuating his work (design and SEO) and are paying accordingly, the "potential" earnings of the site are a made up measure, but I guess the market will speak.

Good luck on the auction.

The point is that you do not understand that leads is earnings. The fact that he did not reap those earnings does not change the fact that leads = money = earnings.
NOT POTENTIAL.

Potential is when you say - you can do this and this to the site and earn more. So when you do not get something and you say that "site can get this" then it is potential. And in this case leads are not potential, leads are current.

Leads are CURRENT "earnings". Not potential.
Few bucks per lead lets say (remember that CPA networks pay/paid $1 for simple email lead, and these are targeted so their value is more than $1).

But even if we assume they are worth $1/lead they are still current earnings.
If he gets 10 of them daily then current earning = $10.
Not potential. Current.

New owner takes the site and he immediately reaps those leads as dollars. No need to expect some potential,. because they are already there flowing in. Same as cash from the banners. Just in different form.

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Anyone who uses Gravity forms, what are the advantages? Is Gravity Forms the best? I am just not feeling it.

GravityForms is arguably the best WordPress form management solution out there. In addition to a full API and developer docs, it is extremely comprehensive and very easy to use.

Originally Posted by patadeperro

The problem with this approach is that the "potential' can be unlimited and absolutely imaginary, based on no real measures, no real cash flow.

Here on planet earth and the affiliates that make money know that cash is king, if you see the biding they are paying him the design, and the SEO work (5k when I am writing this, 10 times less what he is asking for, see the "buy it now" price) which seems fair to me.

As I said in my first post people are valuating his work (design and SEO) and are paying accordingly, the "potential" earnings of the site are a made up measure, but I guess the market will speak.

Good luck on the auction.

I'm in talks with a few people from GFY who are not interested in bidding via Flippa. I already have a 10k cash offer but I was hoping the auction would go way past that. While I understand your point about the auction and site valuation, this isn't your typical "put adsense on the site and enjoy" scenario that most flippa users are used to (hence why I bought a stickied thread on an adult industry forum where people understand the value of these leads).

[onwebcam]

#1 recruitment site that has never recruited anyone?

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

I'm in talks with a few people from GFY who are not interested in bidding via Flippa. I already have a 10k cash offer but I was hoping the auction would go way past that. While I understand your point about the auction and site valuation, this isn't your typical "put adsense on the site and enjoy" scenario that most flippa users are used to (hence why I bought a stickied thread on an adult industry forum where people understand the value of these leads).

My guess is it won't go way past especially having a reserve. I and many others like me don't bid on anything anywhere that has a reserve. Just go have a look at ebay for a few minutes. Your BIN is way beyond expectations and let's potential buyers know that your reserve is also most likely well beyond so bidding anything would be useless. no real buyers are going to go on a fishing expedition in the hopes of catching your reserve which is why they are making a real offer outside. If it is what you say I'd value it at about $9k with a top end of about $13.5k. If you had actually tried to sell the leads, were successful and had a history there things would be different. I would suggest you take the 10k and run before your auction comes in lower than your "hopes" and your buyer/s changes his/her/their mind and/or lowers offer.

[Bladewire]

I think anyone interested in buying this site should minimally check out the OP's first 20 posts on GFY, put 2 and 2 together, and think of the implications.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

Some of the pictures included in 3 applications from above:

This isn't the first time you've posted model submissions publicly is it?

[Sly]

Not so private anymore?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I think anyone interested in buying this site should minimally check out the OP's first 20 posts on GFY, put 2 and 2 together, and think of the implications.

I did that but apparently I can't add ;(

So, spill it please. What u tryin to tell us?


Thanks in advance

.

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by Sly

Not so private anymore?

*snip*

It's still private, you have to have an admin login to be able to browse to that URL.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I think anyone interested in buying this site should minimally check out the OP's first 20 posts on GFY, put 2 and 2 together, and think of the implications.

Looking back at my posts I gotta admit, that was a horrible idea haha. Just because I don't agree with you over the whole Cecil the Lion ordeal is a poor reason to thread crap though. What specifically are they supposed to be looking at?

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This isn't the first time you've posted model submissions publicly is it?

Did you even watch the videos in the OP? Am I missing something or are you really that pissed about the damn lion?

[sinclair]

Originally Posted by ruff

I wonder how many copies of your site are being made right now? Any good idea is worth stealing these days.

I've designed and optimized at least a half dozen of them for different agency's this year already. Idea isn't all that unique.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

Did you even watch the videos in the OP? Am I missing something or are you really that pissed about the damn lion?

3/2011 You're looking for ex-gf/self-shot content for a new website. "I'm not planning on making any of my own content"

10/2011 You register pornhowto.com

Then a bit later you post private porn applications on this forum.

Then you post a handful of times over the last 4 years wanting copywriters, a virtual assistant for your porn agency etc.

2015 you want to sell a site you "never monetized" and have over 20k applicants that have never been contacted over 4 years. Their apps are not content.

You started from the get go having no issue posting private porn apps online, your first post was about exploiting local girls.

Nothing against you, people have done worse.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

Looking back at my posts I gotta admit, that was a horrible idea haha. Just because I don't agree with you over the whole Cecil the Lion ordeal is a poor reason to thread crap though. What specifically are they supposed to be looking at?

I don't even know what you're talking about Cecil the Lion? WTF?

[TangibleAsset]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

3/2011 You're looking for ex-gf/self-shot content for a new website. "I'm not planning on making any of my own content"

10/2011 You register pornhowto.com

Then a bit later you post private porn applications on this forum.

Then you post a handful of times over the last 4 years wanting copywriters, a virtual assistant for your porn agency etc.

2015 you want to sell a site you "never monetized" and have over 20k applicants that have never been contacted over 4 years. Their apps are not content.

You started from the get go having no issue posting private porn apps online, your first post was about exploiting local girls.

Nothing against you, people have done worse.

My first "idea" that I posted on this site was to create a porn site filled with NaughtyRob's content and try to pass it off as local girls, hence the sentence:

Originally Posted by TangibleAsset

There are also a lot of people that would pay good money to see girls they thought went to their school naked.

Like I said in the my last post, the idea was crap and I never went through with it. You can also look through my post history to see all the other crap ideas I had. I think I was doing a little too much at the time. PornHowTo is about the only good idea that I did post about on here.