dyna mo

that's not how we know you're anti-American.

aka123

Yes, I guess it is telling unpleasant facts about America. I have unpleasant facts from many countries, I guess I am anti-Somalian too for example. How do you stand regarding Somalia? Pro- or anti-Somalian?

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dyna mo

no, it's your ludicrous, uninformed, twisted view of such things as the American judicial system. et al, on&on, blah blah. Look, here's proof, L-Pink is one of the more laidback gfyers and even he's pointing out your bulloney.

somalia? USA should stop sending them food. you know what we should send them? U-Hauls.

aka123

My view about American legal system is right and I have backed up my "view" with multiple and reliable sources, most being American sources by the way. You just can't accept the facts. Like the fact that less than 3 % of the cases end up in trial, the rest are plea bargained.

So, are you pro- or anti-Somalian? There is no middle ground in here apparently.

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dyna mo

i answered your question on Somalia.

and i have actually participated many times in the American legal system as well as studied it. you have not, what you are doing is supporting your anti-American view by finding links to prop it up. that's easy to do and anyone can do that, you're going with what the internet tells you, i am going on what reality and actual experience and knowledge have proven time and again.

dyna mo

and i'm not expecting you to ever admit your anti-American sentiment. i'm simply pointing it out.

aka123

No you didn't answer that question about Somalia.

The links I posted were very trustworthy links and based on studies and statistics, real ones. Maybe you should study your legal system a bit more.

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L-Pink

You're just a know it all, get in the last word with something stupid, dick.

dyna mo

right, you claim you post valid links while declaring that an international terrorist would not get a trial upon extradition.

2MuchMark

Hi Smut,

Everyone should care about Global warming because it affects everyone. It's the "Global" in global warming.

If Trump wins, the last thing America will get is respect. Is Trump a shrewd real estate tycoon? Maybe, and maybe he can be respected for that. But so far, his run for the presidency has been an insulting, stupid mess. He was entertaining for a while, but the novelty is wearing off. Hillary or Bernie will wipe the floor with him.

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aka123

I simply said that statistically speaking it is not likely. Or at least not getting a trial is a concern, as that Irish judge pointed out.

Here, as you are so eager to study:

https://scholar.google.fi/scholar?hl...ining+us&btnG=

http://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi..._schol arship

http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/c...nal_artic les

http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/c...nal_artic les

This one is interesting:

"In this essay I shall address the modem American system of plea bargaining from a perspective that must appear bizarre, although I hope to persuade you that it is illuminating. I am going to contrast plea bargaining with the medieval European law of torture. My thesis is that there are remarkable parallels in origin, in function, and even in specific points of doctrine, between the law of torture and the law of plea bargaining. I shall suggest that these parallels expose some important truths about how criminal justice systems respond when their trial procedures fall into deep disorder."

http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/c...ext=fss_papers

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dyna mo

exactly, you post a link to a law student's thesis paper re: his personal view of the legal system as an actual indictment of the legal system. That's an opinion essay. the hypocritical part is you're parroting exactly what you are pointing your finger at USA about- you are convicting USA based on cursory evidence without a fair trial.

but here in the USA, you are allowed to voice your personal views of things. And heads-up, i've never exclaimed USA is perfect, far from it, in fact i've pointed out part of the cop problem we have in America is our judicial system is positioned to give the cop's testimony more credence.

none of which has anything to do with your anti-American sentiment.

Robbie

1st sentence is nothing but your opinion.

Part about the "novelty is wearing off"...I guess the public didn't get that memo from you. He is still rising in the polls.

If nothing else it is so enjoyable to watch the pundits, the analysts, and guys like you keep saying he's done while he continues to rise.
Shows how out of touch that the analysts and you are.

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aka123

There are five links to different papers and to the search I did. Besides you should pay attention to law student's thesis and not just reject it as a bullshit because it doesn't fit into your view. Read the rest and browse for more. I googled "Plea bargaining in US." It was very objective search, I didn't google "Alien US conspiracy" or something like that.

My "anti-American sentiment" is mostly just telling some unpleasant facts time to time. Besides, I don't have to like everything about America anyways, and it doesn't make me more anti-American than not liking everything in Somalia makes me anti-Somalian. One unpleasant fact is that Americans in general are quite self-centered. Get over it, you are just one country amongst many. How many countries even use that term anti-[country]?

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aka123

Dynamo. Will US Bureau of Justice Assistance do? Or is that too just "personal view?

"According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (2005), in 2003 there were 75,573 cases disposed of in federal district court by trial or plea. Of these, about 95 percent were disposed of by a guilty plea (Pastore and Maguire, 2003). While there are no exact estimates of the proportion of cases that are resolved through plea bargaining, scholars estimate that about 90 to 95 percent of both federal and state court cases are resolved through this process (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 2005; Flanagan and Maguire, 1990)."

https://www.bja.gov/Publications/Ple...rchSummary.pdf

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dyna mo

i don't have to get over jack shit. i'm a fucking American. eat it.

dyna mo

i already knew this. heads-up, this is 12 year old data. and it hasn't changed. you seem to think a clogged legal system has plenty of space to litigate 15x more cases than it already tries.

aka123

So what you being American? I am Finnish. Great, we all are from somewhere. How wonderful.

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SmutHammer

I was wondering when you would show up with your anti american views. If people want to turn the USA into Canada, Maybe they should just move there instead

By the way, since Obama has taken office America became an instant joke to the world.

aka123

Maybe you should do something to your legal system? People in other countries have trials, as there is no plea bargaining in the first place. Take few billions from some internal spying stuff and use it to make your legal system humane and right. Or give shorter sentences. Actually if the error rate in plea bargaining is about 10% as studies suggest, you get 10 % less prisoners just by giving up plea bargaining. So, that is shit load of money to be saved just giving up plea bargaining and 230 000 less innocent people in jail. Not to speak of the ones those get lesser sentences than jail.

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dyna mo

and this is how you reveal yourself as anti-American. you are so completely biased you can't even realize or admit that America does take a look at itself. the issue of plea bargaining has been examined by Americans, critiqued, argued, debated and fucking LITIGATED time and again over the decades. none of that makes it to your posts here. your one-sided anti view is all we get here.

aka123

You know the issue and you still argue against me? What the fuck is that about? You keep telling that I have skewed view about your legal system (and being anti-American) and after that you tell that the info I provide is right. Try to decide that do I have skewed view or not.

And why the fuck you still have plea bargaining if you keep it as so bad? That makes no sense.

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aka123

"In the fifth year of the Obama presidency, the United States’ image remains strong around the world compared with the last years of the administration of President George W. Bush. Still, pro-America sentiment is slipping."

America?s International Image Slipping | Pew Research Center

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dyna mo

no, your anti-Americanism is clear on account of your lacking fair and balanced posts about your views of America. they are all some sort of what you call "unpleasant facts", that usually need a very myopic viewpoint to pass scrutiny.

dyna mo

oh, and fuck fuck fucky fuck.


that's for ********** since he likes to claim that's how i handle people that i debate/disgree on an issue with.

aka123

Don't you know that people talk more about negative issues? Just watch this board section's headlines. Do you really think that I am going to make some posts about wonderful things in America? Or let's put it this way; should I make such posts?

And let's be honest; there are very much things fucked up in America, so negative issues pop up quite easily. But you have some good businesses and I order some American magazines, etc. American associated stuff. Happy? I am not going "hype" some foreign country much more than that.

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dyna mo

so can you show me some links where you are fair and balanced re: America? i'll stand corrected.

aka123

Well, you can read this thread about "fair" and my last post about "balanced". There you have it.

I am going to be honest again: America makes great products and services, but is generally sucky as a society. Thus I buy American products as that is good in there and thus I bring up negative issues about American society as it sucks.

Only society related good practices those come in mind are conservation/ hunting related and even there just some (from those I know).

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dyna mo

Well, I can see you are trying so I'll stand corrected.

I think you will find that American society is one of the more generous compared to all countries. We give and donate a lot and provide help around the world often.

bronco67

Well there you have it. The Trump has spoken.

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mikesouth

The whole global warming thing is so not unlike the anti nuclear thing of the past...a vote against nuclear power was a vote for the status quo...aka coal burning. Nuclear power had the most promise and was and is the safest and greenest source of energy there is. the people who ran all the scary ads about The China Syndrome and such...yup the coal burning companies.

Global warming isnt much difference. there is NO doubt that we are in a warming trend...it isnt the first and it wont be the last the earth has gone through climate change since day one and that aint gonna stop, there have been times when the temp was much higher than it is now...Hell there is fossilized remains of subtropical plant life under the Antarctic ice.

The big question isnt is there change it is how much of that change is influenced by man.

Now you can argue about pollution from cars, factories, aerosol cans, cow farts and burps and everything else but the one thing you WONT hear anyone on either side say is the truth.

If any of it is attributable to man the real culprit is overpopulation of the earth...instead of rewarding people for having children they cant afford by throwing money at them in the form of aid or child welfare or whatever is flat out stupid. When they start addressing population control and responsible family raising and planning as a solution then they will get my attention because then they are serious about it.

Till then blame it on anything but and all you are doing is passing gas ....

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Mike South

It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

Dvae

Speaking of dumbed down.

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Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

2MuchMark

Everything everyone says on GFY is an opinion.

I never said he's done. When I say "the novelty is wearing off", I mean for ME. Like many I was watching all the news coverage of every Trumpism. Soon he might say "Elect me and I will nuke Iran", and I'll be just like "meh...."...

I'm sure there are lots of people still entertained by him, but I'm not one of them anymore.


I am not Anti American. As I've said before I love the country. I've been there lots of time, have relatives and friends that live there that I visit. I do business in the US, and spend lots of money when I'm down there too. The people are great, etc.

My only issue is with certain politicians - Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, etc, or with certain policies and practices (anti-abortion, anti-voting rights, fracking, etc). My issues are my opinions, but they are in no way Anti-American.

Popularity changes over time. I like the guy but I wish he was tougher, and wish he would have done more during his term which is running out fast. But since you bring it up: 7 charts on how the world views President Obama | Pew Research Center

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Robbie

Fair enough. Though I don't remember you ever "getting" the "novelty" in the first place...so I didn't think it could "wear off" for you.

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Robbie

By the way **********...here is the Democrat Parties worst nightmare...black people deciding to STOP being victims:



Oh, by the way...MSNBC is hounding and attacking these two girls on air because they aren't obeying the narrative of the Democrat Party and acting like victims.

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