News Police fire on illegal immigrants

[Barry-xlovecam]

Macedonian police shoot stun grenades at migrant families stuck in no-man's land - Independent.ie

This happened on the Greek-Macedonian border -- tragic story really ...

Could this be the US-Mexico border in 2018? Assuming that by 2018 a 'President Trump' has dramatically improved the US economy more illegal immigrants would want the 'good (low paying)' jobs returned home under a Trump administration's (theoretical) policies that candidate Trump is unable to explain.

Be careful what you ask for -- you might just get it ...


Draft Captain Kirk/General Wesley Clark 2016


Men who will go were no men have gone before ...

[mineistaken]

"About 3,000 migrants who spent the night in the open made several attempts to charge the police" - Dindu nuffin?

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

"About 3,000 migrants who spent the night in the open made several attempts to charge the police" - Dindu nuffin?

[j3rkules]

Good to see at least one European country standing up to these migrant. bullies forcefully, instead of the namby-pamby tactics of the French and British police. These migrants seem to be deliberately using small children as shields.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

"About 3,000 migrants who spent the night in the open made several attempts to charge the police" - Dindu nuffin?

They were refugee's from Syria and Iraq (the one's interviewed at least) trying to escape the US, NATO, Russian and Iranian sponsored violence in their homelands.

What would you do if your back was to the wall?

[Barry-xlovecam]

We shoot just shoot refugees on sight then ...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

They were refugee's from Syria and Iraq (the one's interviewed at least) trying to escape the US, NATO, Russian and Iranian sponsored violence in their homelands.

What would you do if your back was to the wall?

Did they teleport from Syria to there?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

We shoot just shoot refugees on sight then ...

What?
They charge at police and get shot and you come up with this remark?

It is like in Mike brown's case you would say: we should just shoot people on sight.

Nonsensical remark.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

They were refugee's from Syria and Iraq (the one's interviewed at least) trying to escape the US, NATO, Russian and Iranian sponsored violence in their homelands.

What would you do if your back was to the wall?

Many people would do the same, but one person's plight is not always another's. And while we can always be empathetic, does not mean we always have to be sympathetic and offer a solution. I see homeless people every day begging for money. I'm empathetic with their situation, but I do not give them money, I have my own life to worry about.

If I was hungry and had absolutely no other options, I would steal food. The shop keeper does not have to like it, nor do they have to sit on the sidelines and watch me do it. It's their right as well to fight back.

There are two parties at work, and each party is doing what they feel is right for them.

[j3rkules]

Why should Macedonia allow them in, they are not refugees, they are illegal economic migrants even in Greece. The moment they pushed the boat off the shore of Turkey they ceased to be refugees and became illegal economic migrants in search of a better life, they have no right to support from any government in Europe, even Greece. The only reason children are being put at risk is because their parents are using them as tools to try and elicit sympathy from the police to gain entry to Macedonia. Allowing these immigrants in could collapse Macedonia's infrastructure, the government is doing the right thing in protecting their country, unlike a lot of other governments in the EU who just pass the problem on to other countries further north or west.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

What?
They charge at police and get shot and you come up with this remark?

It is like in Mike brown's case you would say: we should just shoot people on sight.

Nonsensical remark.

YES, shooting at refugees is nonsense.
My grandfathers were refuges to the United States fleeing the violence in Europe in the 1890 - 1910 era.

My immigrant grandfathers helped build the USA along with millions of immigrants. They took the jobs that they were offered and worked. The burger flippers of today hate immigrants ... The jobs they don't want are threatened -- that is total idiocy.

When you hate on immigrants I guess you hate on me too.

I don't turn the other cheek so

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by jerkules

Why should Macedonia allow them in, they are not refugees, they are illegal economic migrants even in Greece. The moment they pushed the boat off the shore of Turkey they ceased to be refugees and became illegal economic migrants in search of a better life, they have no right to support from any government in Europe, even Greece. The only reason children are being put at risk is because their parents are using them as tools to try and elicit sympathy from the police to gain entry to Macedonia. Allowing these immigrants in could collapse Macedonia's infrastructure, the government is doing the right thing in protecting their country, unlike a lot of other governments in the EU who just pass the problem on to other countries further north or west.

You have never lived in a war zone or have been forced to flee political repression apparently.

What country are you a citizen of?

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

YES, shooting at refugees is nonsense.
My grandfathers were refuges to the United States fleeing the violence in Europe in the 1890 - 1910 era.

My immigrant grandfathers helped build the USA along with millions of immigrants. They took the jobs that they were offered and worked. The burger flippers of today hate immigrants ... The jobs they don't want are threatened -- that is total idiocy.

When you hate on immigrants I guess you hate on me too.

I don't turn the other cheek so

WTF are you even babbling about? you sound like a retard.

[JuicyBunny]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

They were refugee's from Syria and Iraq (the one's interviewed at least) trying to escape the US, NATO, Russian and Iranian sponsored violence in their homelands.

What would you do if your back was to the wall?

Why do you give a shit? You want Israel to nuke all of them anyway.

[j3rkules]

What the heck is Saudi Arabia waiting to come to the help of these innocent muslim children?

The "heartless" people are your own brothers, sisters and fellow countrymen in Islam who have driven you to the desperation you find yourself in. This is the "proof of the pudding" of the utter failure of the Islamic ideal and social construct.

[Barry-xlovecam]

What country are you a citizen of?

What is your occupation?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by jerkules

What the heck is Saudi Arabia waiting to come to the help of these innocent muslim children?

The "heartless" people are your own brothers, sisters and fellow countrymen in Islam who have driven you to the desperation you find yourself in. This is the "proof of the pudding" of the utter failure of the Islamic ideal and social construct.

Nice rhetoric ...

What country are you a citizen of?

What is your occupation?

[pimpmaster9000]

as I see it the refugees had a better chance with euro police shooting at them than going back to war and have the military shoot at them...it was the USA and some EU who fucked up their entire region, how ironic is it that there are now waves of refugees from those countries pouring in to the EU...pity they can not all go to the USA

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

as I see it the refugees had a better chance with euro police shooting at them than going back to war and have the military shoot at them...it was the USA and some EU who fucked up their entire region, how ironic is it that there are now waves of refugees from those countries pouring in to the EU...pity they can not all go to the USA

Goddammit -- I almost have you agree with you

These refugees are just seeking safe passage to Western Europe to live like humans. I can't really fault them (the refugees). The US and NATO are responsible to some degree and should assimilate these people if these refugees have no hostile political agendas toward the host countries.

Most refugees are economic refugees. They want a better life and should be willing to work for it. I have no problem with revoking a refugee's residency status if they are an unreasonable economic burden. If members of their family work and pay taxes what is wrong with that?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

Why do you give a shit? You want Israel to nuke all of them anyway.

I don't want anyone getting nuked.

I am a citizen of the US and sorry we had to nuke you. Japan could have just surrendered on August 7, 1945. The blood of Nagasaki is on the hands of the Japanese regime of that day the blood of millions was on the hands of the Emperor.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

should assimilate these people if these refugees have no hostile political agendas toward the host countries.

How has assimilating the current muslim population been working out for Europe?

How do you magically tell who has a political agenda and who does not? Ask them? You think anyone will respond "I HATE EUROPE AND WANT TO BOMB EVERYONE!"

Are you going to let refugees move in as your next door neighbors and take that risk because they claim to have "no hostile agendas"?

Just shut up already. You're idiotic.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Goddammit -- I almost have you agree with you

These refugees are just seeking safe passage to Western Europe to live like humans. I can't really fault them (the refugees). The US and NATO are responsible to some degree and should assimilate these people if these refugees have no hostile political agendas toward the host countries.

Most refugees are economic refugees. They want a better life and should be willing to work for it. I have no problem with revoking a refugee's residency status if they are an unreasonable economic burden. If members of their family work and pay taxes what is wrong with that?

Can't fault them, but Germany alone is supposed to get 800k of them this year. They are going to cost the taxpayers 10 billion euros/year. Some states are already talking about raising taxes.

We accepted 150 into poland a month ago or so and they are already complaining they got too small of a free apartment and get too little free money per month. Apparently most of them were expecting to come here, live like kings for free and then return to Syria after the war.

My wife's uncle is a truck driver. Drives from Poland to UK - he said when he got to calais last time it was completely black. He was scared shitless and turned on all his lights and many scampered off into bushes.

Economic or war refugees or what, europe cannot fucking support 2-3 million leeches on it's social system. Why the fuck should we pay to support them for years before they "get on thier feet" (if they intend to do so at all)?

And before anyone says "what about all the polish immigrants in the UK" - Send them back here, we'll gladly take them.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I have no problem with revoking a refugee's residency status if they are an unreasonable economic burden.

"revoking refugee status" and how the hell do you plan on deporting them once they are magically considered an "economic burden"? Who's going to come up with those factors?

Hey stupid, have you taken a look at the youth unemployment rate in Europe? I can only guess that it is also mostly young refugee families healthy enough taking the trek. If youth locals can't find work... Where the fuck are the refugees going to find work?

They are an economic burden before even being considered refugees.

You're too old and dense for this topic. You still think this is the 1940s after WW2 and they need immigrant workers for the factories and farms. This is the year 2015 asshole. Shut up about your grandpa. The comparison is stupid.

[Barry-xlovecam]

What country are you a citizen of?

What is your occupation?


Answer the FUCKING QUESTION TROLL

or GTFO

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Can't fault them, ... them.

Why should refugees be given all of these social services?

I can see humanitarian care but they should not be given what working citizens are entitled to. If a refugee family works and pays taxes then they would be entitled. If you are able bodied and do not work why should you be entitled?

There are 7 billion people on the earth and maybe 5 billion is all the earth can sustain. So, do we exterminate the 2 billion surplus people or invest in a new way to exist?

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

What country are you a citizen of?

What is your occupation?


Answer the FUCKING QUESTION TROLL

or GTFO

It doesn't matter where I live or what I do idiot. You can't respond because you're too dam stupid to understand how your points lack any substance.

What's is your big plan to hand out questionnaires to the refugees with 2 check boxes?
"YES or NO... do you plan on wanting to bomb any European nations"

Gee that will work out great! Your best arguments are about geo political situations from what 6+ decades ago? You cannot be seriously this stupid.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I can see humanitarian care but they should not be given what working citizens are entitled to. If a refugee family works and pays taxes then they would be entitled

Um I guess you don't get the main point of social services dumb ass.

They normally go to families who CAN'T WORK and thus DON'T pay taxes. That's the entire point idiot.

So your even bigger plan is to have families... who already cannot work... can't find jobs is to give them less and somehow that will help them assimilate? By not educating them or their children that you allow to stay or give access to health care it will help them assimilate?

Great plan!

[Barry-xlovecam]

View PostOld Today, 12:36 PM
Remove user from ignore listMetaMan
This message is hidden because MetaMan is on your ignore list.

OK

You are no one

[MaDalton]

before 1989 people from Poland, CZ, Eastern Germany etc were fleeing from countries where they were not happy with the political system, couldn't travel enough or had to wait 12 years for their car

millions of them left after 1989 to work in UK, Germany or other western countries - for economical reasons

the same people now scream bloody murder and turn into Nazis because of people fleeing from real wars - in way lower numbers than their fellows people before and after 1989

it's shameful

but i hardly expect any understanding here on GFY since it's by now full of racist keyboard warriors anyways

[bigmeezy941]

MetaMan if you spent less time being a asshole, you just might enjoy life better

[sofaking]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

before 1989 people from Poland, CZ, Eastern Germany etc were fleeing from countries where they were not happy with the political system, couldn't travel enough or had to wait 12 years for their car

millions of them left after 1989 to work in UK, Germany or other western countries - for economical reasons

the same people now scream bloody murder and turn into Nazis because of people fleeing from real wars - in way lower numbers than their fellows people before and after 1989

it's shameful

but i hardly expect any understanding here on GFY since it's by now full of racist keyboard warriors anyways

This

[bigmeezy941]

Whats so shocking about that, these asshole police shooting people all the time in the US...crazy world we live in....

[bigmeezy941]

You haven't seen racist till you've grown up being a biracial man in a America haha Hopefully one day this will change for the better

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

it's shameful

but i hardly expect any understanding here on GFY since it's by now full of racist keyboard warriors anyways

QFT +

Someone cried "oh Saudis!"

That would be like going from the frying pan into the fire.

What is ironic is that the same people that the xenophobes hate on are the smart ones -- the ones that will risk their lives to escape. The refugees and immigrants to America were/ or are the ones that risk it all to have a better life.

Sure, there are some criminals in the barrio and in the inner city ghettos but don't forget the ones on Wall Street or the Banksters.

Some of these people trekked on foot from Syria into Turkey and then traveled covertly into Greece on foot. To risk that to escape with what you can carry on your back with only a dream to guide you I cannot even imagine the hardships.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

before 1989 people from Poland, CZ, Eastern Germany etc were fleeing from countries where they were not happy with the political system, couldn't travel enough or had to wait 12 years for their car

millions of them left after 1989 to work in UK, Germany or other western countries - for economical reasons

the same people now scream bloody murder and turn into Nazis because of people fleeing from real wars - in way lower numbers than their fellows people before and after 1989

it's shameful

but i hardly expect any understanding here on GFY since it's by now full of racist keyboard warriors anyways

You don't deserve to live in a free country because you do not have the mindset to want to protect it.

It is so simple to call people "racist" and other buzz words. But the simple fact is you would not want your entire community taking in thousands of muslims, building mosques and filling your schools. If you are so sympathetic to their plight you should be on the border of Italy and Libya right now handing out food and water.

You keyboard "good guys" make me sick. You can sit thousands of miles away patting yourself on the back like you are part of the good team. But if you were in one of these communities that are on the border, directly hit you would be singing a different tune.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

You haven't seen racist till you've grown up being a biracial man in a America haha Hopefully one day this will change for the better

O geeze. Now you're going to whine because your skin is a slightly different shade. You make me sick. Take control of your own life.

I can tell by your domain, nickname and other things you have trouble succeeding in this life because you lack brain power and knowledge. Maybe go out and read some books.

"biracial" o god, you people are hilarious!

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

View PostOld Today, 12:36 PM
Remove user from ignore listMetaMan
This message is hidden because MetaMan is on your ignore list.

OK

You are no one

O u got me so bad Barry! I am just so hurt! I will make sure to tell my mommy on you!

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

You don't deserve to live in a free country because you do not have the mindset to want to protect it.

It is so simple to call people "racist" and other buzz words. But the simple fact is you would not want your entire community taking in thousands of muslims, building mosques and filling your schools. If you are so sympathetic to their plight you should be on the border of Italy and Libya right now handing out food and water.

You keyboard "good guys" make me sick. You can sit thousands of miles away patting yourself on the back like you are part of the good team. But if you were in one of these communities that are on the border, directly hit you would be singing a different tune.

your recent post history makes you nothing but a troll and not even worthy these 16 words

[bigmeezy941]

Not cryin about shit, I got the best of both worlds in my bloodline haha the world will a better place when all the races have combined as one....but assholes like you running around in the world is the reason people are getting killed with that dumb ass approach you have on life.... and you speak on protecting your country huh...unless your ass is on the front lines in the war with a gun, your not protecting shit just sitting there eating chips and drinking sodas jackin your dick

[bigmeezy941]

I bet metaman get his ass kicked a lot in the local pub for running his mouth off when he had too much to drink hahaa

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

Not cryin about shit, I got the best of both worlds in my bloodline haha the world will a better place when all the races have combined as one....but assholes like you running around in the world is the reason people are getting killed with that dumb ass approach you have on life.... and you speak on protecting your country huh...unless your ass is on the front lines in the war with a gun, your not protecting shit just sitting there eating chips and drinking sodas jackin your dick

Ya you're not crying... but for no reason you point out to us how you are biracial and you know alllll about racism. But sure... you're not crying right?

Ya what a dumb ass approach... Not wanting people who have completely different ideologies which have already proven difficulty assimilating into different cultures a free entry pass. Ya how stupid is that!!

Originally Posted by MaDalton

your recent post history makes you nothing but a troll and not even worthy these 16 words

Blah Blah Blah more euro trash. Remember this thread when it moves into your neighborhood.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

I bet metaman get his ass kicked a lot in the local pub for running his mouth off when he had too much to drink hahaa

No sorry I don't hang out in "pubs" anymore. I'm not 18 years old. If I wanted to hang out with societies lowest common denominator I would just ask to be invited over to your house for dinner.

[romeo22]

I watched the news .the immigrants were crossing the boarders illegal that was all

[Barry-xlovecam]

Kotevsky said Macedonia was trying to do its best in protecting the refugees, who had been "practically expelled from Greece".


Desperate migrants in Macedonia fight for place on train
The refugees hope that by crossing to Macedonia they would be able to take trains through Serbia to Hungary, an EU member, which has begun erecting a fence to try to keep the distraught refugees out.

Hundreds of refugees force their way into Macedonia - Al Jazeera English

A Muslim terrorist family

However Hungary, to the north of Serbia, is an EU member and is part of the Schengen area. This means that once in Hungary people can travel onwards throughout much of Europe (excluding Britain and Ireland) without needing to show documents at international borders.

Macedonia migrants: Thousands break through at Greek border - BBC News

[MaDalton]

those damn leeching terrorists...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

YES, shooting at refugees is nonsense.
My grandfathers were refuges to the United States fleeing the violence in Europe in the 1890 - 1910 era.

My immigrant grandfathers helped build the USA along with millions of immigrants. They took the jobs that they were offered and worked. The burger flippers of today hate immigrants ... The jobs they don't want are threatened -- that is total idiocy.

When you hate on immigrants I guess you hate on me too.

I don't turn the other cheek so

Idiot, they shot AFTER those illegals stormed the cops etc.

"just shooting" is completely different thing.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

You have never lived in a war zone or have been forced to flee political repression apparently.

What country are you a citizen of?

Moron, he explained to you that they left war zone and were perfectly safe in Turkey.
Fleeing further ceases them being refugees and makes them just illegal economical migrants.


You sounds like a really stupid person to answer logical statements with irrelevant nonsense like that.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

those damn leeching terrorists...

Who said that they are terrorists? If anybody said that he/she meant a small portion of them.
Ridiculous contra argument.

Also - why can't they be terrorists? Because they have kids? Or because they have feelings? How does those photos "prove" that those are definitely not terrorists?
Terrorists can have kids, terrorists can have feelings and be sad or even cry in bad situations too.
When you come illegally into someones house and get caught - you also can put a sad face.
That does not change fact that you made a crime.

So stop playing on peoples feelings and talk facts.

Now on the leeching part - you are absolutely correct.

Those ALL are ILLEGAL ECONOMICAL MIGRANTS.
They stopped being war refugees once they reached first non war country.
FACT on FACT.

Any European who is ok with them flooding the continent is a parasite of his own continent/country.

[bigmeezy941]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

Ya you're not crying... but for no reason you point out to us how you are biracial and you know alllll about racism. But sure... you're not crying right?

Ya what a dumb ass approach... Not wanting people who have completely different ideologies which have already proven difficulty assimilating into different cultures a free entry pass. Ya how stupid is that!!



Blah Blah Blah more euro trash. Remember this thread when it moves into your neighborhood.

ya speaking of "for no reason" you insult me on the first post I ever made on this site "for no reason" Have a little respect for for people...or you can take your opinion....turn it side ways and stick it up your candy ass

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Who said that they are terrorists? If anybody said that he/she meant a small portion of them.
Ridiculous contra argument.

Also - why can't they be terrorists? Because they have kids? Or because they have feelings? How does those photos "prove" that those are definitely not terrorists?
Terrorists can have kids, terrorists can have feelings and be sad or even cry in bad situations too.
When you come illegally into someones house and get caught - you also can put a sad face.
That does not change fact that you made a crime.

So stop playing on peoples feelings and talk facts.

Now on the leeching part - you are absolutely correct.

Those ALL are ILLEGAL ECONOMICAL MIGRANTS.
They stopped being war refugees once they reached first non war country.
FACT on FACT.

Any European who is ok with them flooding the continent is a parasite of his own continent/country.

You are nothing but a race bating troll that tries (too) hard fitting in with the right wing US crowd while probably sitting in some shithole and jerking off to your own delusions

you make me sick

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by bigmeezy941

ya speaking of "for no reason" you insult me on the first post I ever made on this site "for no reason" Have a little respect for for people...or you can take your opinion....turn it side ways and stick it up your candy ass

Sorry for the off topic. Please send me your mail so we can chat. If you do not mind you can leave it here or send me the private message.