News How Much Do You Think Ashley Madison Will Make Out Of The Leak?..

[EddyTheDog]

Obviously the immediate fall out is going to be a nightmare for them - What about in 6 months though?..

Everyone will know who they are and what they do - Will people go to them assuming lightning doesn't strike twice?....

Even my internet virgin step dad knows who they are now...

[k0nr4d]

I would imagine they will be completely done within the next few months... With their DB released confirming that the site is like 0.05% females, who's gonna pay? They are gonna get chargebacked to shit, billers will drop them so they won't even get the residual recurring money... Hard to imagine them bouncing back.

[PR_Phil]

at first I was going with "all press is good press" but I think they are toast. Certainly there is no longer an IPO in their foreseeable future.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I would imagine they will be completely done within the next few months... With their DB released confirming that the site is like 0.05% females, who's gonna pay? They are gonna get chargebacked to shit, billers will drop them so they won't even get the residual recurring money... Hard to imagine them bouncing back.

I don't know - We read behind the headlines - We knew that there are no women on the site - If my step dad decided to have an affair though, I doubt he knows any of those sort of details...

How many people will just remember the name?....

Just in case - Keep it in your pants asshole - I know where you live...

[j3rkules]

I give them a two months.

[xXXtesy10]

i think they make chapter 11 for sure

[Ramster]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I don't know - We read behind the headlines - We knew that there are no women on the site - If my step dad decided to have an affair though, I doubt he knows any of those sort of details...

How many people will just remember the name?....

Just in case - Keep it in your pants asshole - I know where you live...

Yes we all know between the lines but is it all over the news including late night talks shows and more that there are hardly any real women on the site at all to go along with the fake female profiles. Being so widely publicized I can't see someone with half a brain paying for a membership there even if they're thinking with the wrong brain.

I think they could last but there will be massive layoffs IMO in order to keep afloat.

[altmman]

Originally Posted by PR_Phil

at first I was going with "all press is good press" but I think they are toast. Certainly there is no longer an IPO in their foreseeable future.

I agree.
I think their best chance is to lay low for a bit and come out with a completely new website on a completely different corporation

[dyna mo]

they may survive, which i doubt, but they won't make anything from this leak.

[AntonMG]

Were they just an adult dating site (even if some members were married or engaged) they could bounce back.
Knowing that the ENTIRE point of the site is to be on the down low, I don't see how they can recover from that hit.

I mean...


Not so hush hush anymore is it?

[TheLegacy]

They could easily return stating stronger security etc. but not sure how they are going to rebound the fact that they don't have women on the site that are real. That's going to ot just hurt them but if someone actually did a study from the mainstream media on the overall picture - they'll find that it's not uncommon and that the majority of dating sites are loaded with fake profiles and that basically it's a sausage factory. In the end the opinion will state, women don't need those sites - only men and that the adult industry plays off of that thereby creating a fantasy that all the men are actually talking to bots and inhouse employee's keeping up the fantasy

[Barry-xlovecam]

AM can forget about their IPO dreams

[sandman!]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I would imagine they will be completely done within the next few months... With their DB released confirming that the site is like 0.05% females, who's gonna pay? They are gonna get chargebacked to shit, billers will drop them so they won't even get the residual recurring money... Hard to imagine them bouncing back.

[beerptrol]

They'll do the corporate shuffle! Come back as a new company and website while leaving a shell of the former to deal with the blowback

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

They could easily return stating stronger security etc. but not sure how they are going to rebound the fact that they don't have women on the site that are real. That's going to ot just hurt them but if someone actually did a study from the mainstream media on the overall picture - they'll find that it's not uncommon and that the majority of dating sites are loaded with fake profiles and that basically it's a sausage factory. In the end the opinion will state, women don't need those sites - only men and that the adult industry plays off of that thereby creating a fantasy that all the men are actually talking to bots and inhouse employee's keeping up the fantasy

No way can they just return with the Ashley Madison name and just say "stronger security" - They are fucked and they know it

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by anexsia

No way can they just return with the Ashley Madison name and just say "stronger security" - They are fucked and they know it

rogue hackers

[SuckOnThis]

Just the lawsuits will kill them off.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by anexsia

No way can they just return with the Ashley Madison name and just say "stronger security" - They are fucked and they know it

CEO of Ashley Madison parent company steps down after hack - Aug. 28, 2015

Just recent - they will continue and call themselves "steadfast" to their commitment to their members. Still appears they will keep the name with no mention of name changing.

I didn't say they were smart - just that I suspect with their attitudes that it will continue attempting to give assurances that they will "up their security" - I've seen it before so just drawing on experience with owners who refuse to see the writing on the wall.

[PR_Phil]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

CEO of Ashley Madison parent company steps down after hack - Aug. 28, 2015

Just recent - they will continue and call themselves "steadfast" to their commitment to their members. Still appears they will keep the name with no mention of name changing.

I didn't say they were smart - just that I suspect with their attitudes that it will continue attempting to give assurances that they will "up their security" - I've seen it before so just drawing on experience with owners who refuse to see the writing on the wall.

They are going to be fined for deceptive marketing practices, then they are going to be fined for corporate theft and for doing to others exactly what the hackers did to them. Then they are going to be involved in several class action lawsuits (1 from each country with a major user base). All the key people will jump ship. Attempts will be made to get all the money out before it is eaten up in legal fees or awarded back to customers. There will be mass cancellations, refunds, charge backs and chances are they will quickly loose a lot of processing abilities. Those who are still fine with working with them, will change as more negative press comes out and we hear more about their deceptive marketing, theft, and general raping of customers in order to give them a false sense of security.

there is no coming back from this. The fact that they were hacked was really not a big deal. The fact that it put the spotlight on them and exposed that they are scumbags, that's the issue here.

[AdultKing]

From a purely technical standpoint, my guess is that they can't survive as long as they keep the same codebase.

Now the source is out and security researchers are picking through it they are finding holes you could drive busses through.

From a business standpoint, they were selling hope more than the opportunity to get laid. Sure the site had basically no female members, but what guy is thinking rationally when dick is in hand and he's offered hope by an ad on a porn site ?

People buy dick pills which are nothing more than herbs, people buy slimming products which are also nothing more than herbs, people buy hope and as long as you can get away with selling hope you can make money.

[ruff]

My opinion is the name Ashley Madison is done. They will not recover and the site and company will close. Don't be surprised if some of the fallout starts to affect other dating sites. People are stupid to a point, then they will have to be convinced that women actually participate or they not spend their money anymore. Of course, I could be wrong. If you see an ad where a woman says I want to fuck you and you believe that, then you will believe anything.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

With their DB released confirming that the site is like 0.05% females, who's gonna pay? They are gonna get chargebacked to shit, billers will drop them so they won't even get the residual recurring money... Hard to imagine them bouncing back.

+1

unless the publicity makes women join based on those stats so they each can get 5000 cocks a year

[plaster]

Originally Posted by ErectMedia

+1

unless the publicity makes women join based on those stats so they each can get 5000 cocks a year

That point has some merit... crazier shit has happened, guess it's how they play the cards.

[Young]

Originally Posted by ruff

My opinion is the name Ashley Madison is done. They will not recover and the site and company will close. Don't be surprised if some of the fallout starts to affect other dating sites. People are stupid to a point, then they will have to be convinced that women actually participate or they not spend their money anymore. Of course, I could be wrong. If you see an ad where a woman says I want to fuck you and you believe that, then you will believe anything.

Everyone is focusing on the fact that there aren't real women on there to point to Ashley Madison's bleak future. But honestly that's the least of their worries. Because guys would still sign up much in the same way that they pay $150 for VIP dances to nowhere.

Ashley Madison is done because no married guy in the world will ever trust them with their information again. Regardless of how many assurances or claims they make.

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by plaster

That point has some merit... crazier shit has happened, guess it's how they play the cards.

what's a downside for a straight male can be a positive for a cock loving whore.

[EliteWebmaster]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I would imagine they will be completely done within the next few months... With their DB released confirming that the site is like 0.05% females, who's gonna pay? They are gonna get chargebacked to shit, billers will drop them so they won't even get the residual recurring money... Hard to imagine them bouncing back.

Konrad is right. The ass clowns at AM are cooked. They should have given in to the hacker's demand from the start because at least that way, they could have saved face and at the same time given law enforcement time to investigate and catch the hackers, then they could have reopened the site and business would have come back. Instead, these canadian ass clowns got cocky and taunted the hackers. Not very smart considering they knew themselves that their DB was 0.05 females, data that was supposed to be scrubbed weren't, and oh yeah the part about their CEO opening conspiring to hack competitors sites. What kind of idiot leaves incriminating evidence like hacking a competitor's dating sites in their email on the server. That's even dumb by canadian standards. Even after the first release, that moron CEO taunted the hackers saying the data was not real???! and then a shitstorm hit the fan when their source code was released along with the fact that their DB was pretty much 99.95 FAKE females. Game Set Match. Bye Bye ass clowns

ps. Chargebacks are the least of their problems, there's that massive multi million dollar lawsuit coming their way too.

[EliteWebmaster]

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

They could easily return stating stronger security etc. but not sure how they are going to rebound the fact that they don't have women on the site that are real. That's going to ot just hurt them but if someone actually did a study from the mainstream media on the overall picture - they'll find that it's not uncommon and that the majority of dating sites are loaded with fake profiles and that basically it's a sausage factory. In the end the opinion will state, women don't need those sites - only men and that the adult industry plays off of that thereby creating a fantasy that all the men are actually talking to bots and inhouse employee's keeping up the fantasy

This. I'm of the opinion that a class action lawsuit is forthcoming. This is a 100mn a year scam, one article stated the majority of the female profiles had the static email pointing to ashleymadison.com which just basically means the employees were sitting there posing as real females. Must be some attorneys out there foaming at the mouth.

[RFremont]

Originally Posted by PR_Phil

They are going to be fined for deceptive marketing practices, then they are going to be fined for corporate theft and for doing to others exactly what the hackers did to them. Then they are going to be involved in several class action lawsuits (1 from each country with a major user base). All the key people will jump ship. Attempts will be made to get all the money out before it is eaten up in legal fees or awarded back to customers. There will be mass cancellations, refunds, charge backs and chances are they will quickly loose a lot of processing abilities. Those who are still fine with working with them, will change as more negative press comes out and we hear more about their deceptive marketing, theft, and general raping of customers in order to give them a false sense of security.

there is no coming back from this. The fact that they were hacked was really not a big deal. The fact that it put the spotlight on them and exposed that they are scumbags, that's the issue here.

Stated a bit more eloquently than me.

[ITraffic]

they are completely finished. that stupid saying "no publicity is bad publicity" is fucking retarded.

bad info has completely destroyed businesses and individuals countless times.

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by PR_Phil

They are going to be fined for deceptive marketing practices, then they are going to be fined for corporate theft and for doing to others exactly what the hackers did to them. Then they are going to be involved in several class action lawsuits (1 from each country with a major user base). All the key people will jump ship. Attempts will be made to get all the money out before it is eaten up in legal fees or awarded back to customers. There will be mass cancellations, refunds, charge backs and chances are they will quickly loose a lot of processing abilities. Those who are still fine with working with them, will change as more negative press comes out and we hear more about their deceptive marketing, theft, and general raping of customers in order to give them a false sense of security.

there is no coming back from this. The fact that they were hacked was really not a big deal. The fact that it put the spotlight on them and exposed that they are scumbags, that's the issue here.

They will not recover and the site and company will close.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

they are completely finished. that stupid saying "no publicity is bad publicity" is fucking retarded.

bad info has completely destroyed businesses and individuals countless times.

Ashley Madison already was quite known. So bad publicity is simply bad. If an unknown site had bad publicity, that would have given benefits instead.

[Jel]

The thing people will remember in 6 months time is the hack, not the fact there are hardly any women. That's what it'll depend on: people trusting, or not, their data being secure - not the no women part

[oppoten]

She won't mention it. Girls don't pee.

Serious answer...I think the site had a whole other raison d'etre, which has been served.

[RebelR]

Whatever happened to the ex employee who was suing them for contracting carpel tunnel from writing fake profiles?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

[EliteWebmaster]

Originally Posted by RebelR

Whatever happened to the ex employee who was suing them for contracting carpel tunnel from writing fake profiles?

AM fucked her over in her lawsuit just like AM is good at fucking people over. They dug up some pics of her riding a jet ski while she was recovering and used it in court. The irony of it is that hot blonde is probably the only real "female" profile on AM

[The Porn Nerd]

Put a fork in 'em. They're done.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Just the lawsuits will kill them off.

[TheLegacy]

Originally Posted by PR_Phil

They are going to be fined for deceptive marketing practices, then they are going to be fined for corporate theft and for doing to others exactly what the hackers did to them. Then they are going to be involved in several class action lawsuits (1 from each country with a major user base). All the key people will jump ship. Attempts will be made to get all the money out before it is eaten up in legal fees or awarded back to customers. There will be mass cancellations, refunds, charge backs and chances are they will quickly loose a lot of processing abilities. Those who are still fine with working with them, will change as more negative press comes out and we hear more about their deceptive marketing, theft, and general raping of customers in order to give them a false sense of security.

there is no coming back from this. The fact that they were hacked was really not a big deal. The fact that it put the spotlight on them and exposed that they are scumbags, that's the issue here.

Released just today

Statement From Avid Life Media, Monday, August 31, 2015 -- TORONTO, Aug. 31 2015 /PRNewswire/ --

TORONTO, Aug. 31 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Recent media reports predicting the imminent demise of Ashley Madison are greatly exaggerated. The company continues its day-to-day operations even as it deals with the theft of its private data by criminal hackers. Despite having our business and customers attacked, we are growing. This past week alone, hundreds of thousands of new users signed up for the Ashley Madison platform ? including 87,596 women.


--- sounds to me like they are going to continue moving forward with the company. I wasn't predicting the future as much as what the owners are likely to do which is to attempt to move forward and attack not the theft of the database but the idea that there are no women on there. THAT and THAT alone will kill the company if it's proven there is no women - I said they'll brush off stating their security is higher but the most important thing that came out of this all was their database had limited women on it. if that's proven then it will lead to their demise - NOT the released member names... their marketers will spin that around to the companies benefit

[MrBottomTooth]

There could actually be new women signing up as I bet a lot of them want to see if their husband has an account on there.

[tiramisu]

Husband cheat wives = 98% of affair market share. Now everything screw up, noway people wanna do this anymore, but theres need for affair fetish. Heres a new idea. Setup a subscription site to help wives catch their husband wanting to cheat, using wutever metric, its a good time to promote this stuff now, since the Ashley's and the trouble is on the spot light.

Ashley can start a new company, can set this up since they have so much consumer habit data. Do something in good spirit.

[EddyTheDog]

The enormous data leak from the Ashley Madison infidelity dating website has not stopped people joining the service, the company says.
"Hundreds of thousands" of new members joined the website last week, according to owner Avid Life Media.
Details of more than 33 million accounts were stolen from the website and published online in August.
On Friday, the company's chief Noel Biderman stepped down. The firm said the move was in its "best interests".

Ashley Madison says site is 'still growing' - BBC News

[georgeyw]

About tree fiddy

[ITraffic]

One Chart That Shows How Much Money Ashley Madison Made Using Bots

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

One Chart That Shows How Much Money Ashley Madison Made Using Bots

I cannot believe there wont be massive repercussions over this.

JDI dating seemed to get singled out and destroyed for very similar practices.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pres...-fake-profiles

Quite why the FTC cornered a small UK company and not the rest of the industry was always a little odd.