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Old 09-22-2015, 03:41 PM   #1
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Russian Marines Battle ISIS In Syria, IS Possesses ?Satellite Imagery? Of Base


As the conflict in Syria continues to escalate, it has been reported by Russian media that Russian Marines stationed at an airbase in Latakia have now engaged ISIS fighters in direct combat.

According to Russian news website, Segodnia, ISIS militants attempted to ambush the Russian soldiers stationed at the base but were fought off by the Russian marines, with a number of ISIS fighters being killed and some captured.

Russian military activity has been increasing at the airbase near Latakia over recent days with the arrival of new and advanced Russian fighter jets, according to reports.

Combat between Russian forces and ISIS militants marks a drastic increase in the level of conflict in Syria, adding an even greater international aspect to it as well. With Russia now openly providing the Assad government with missiles, missile defense systems, advisers, helicopters, satellite imagery, and fighter jets (particularly those being flown by Russian pilots), the Russians now stand directly in opposition to the United States pilots, jet fighters, and special forces operatives on the ground in Syria supporting the death squads (even if the official U.S. line is publicly opposed to ISIS and supportive of ?moderate? cannibals).

Thus, we now have the growing potential for direct military confrontation between the two major world powers, both of them armed with nuclear weapons.

The United States has supported terrorists in Syria since the very beginning of the conflict while the Russians have provided tangential but growing support for the secular government of Bashar al-Assad.

Continued Report: Russian Marines Battle ISIS In Syria, IS Possesses "Satellite Imagery" Of Base
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Hope the Russians slaughter them.
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Not sure what the issue is here. Syria has always been in the Russian sphere of influence, and it's long over due that Russia actively supports them - with their military.

We seem to have two options here.... Allow Assad to remain in power, or let ISIS take over. Assad is not a great option, but it seems much better than ISIS. There is no third option; There is no "moderate democratic Muslim" group that we can work with and would want to see running the country. The United States - as well as the rest of the world - needs to understand that we cannot pick and choose who we want to run a country, and sometimes we'll have to take what we can get.
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If it is true, the Russian ground forces may have just walked into a trap
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If it is true, the Russian ground forces may have just walked into a trap
Not a trap when you know what you're getting into.

They have been setting up as a "defense" basis, but that's BS. They built up way too much equipment, way too fast, for it to be a simple defense situation.

What you do is get set up and wait to be attacked. Then use that attack as a basis to expand your set up and go in to complete the mission that you really had in mind.

Effectively, Russia is the one that set the trap with ISIS. Russia is not trying to win favor with the world. They will go in and do whatever they think is right to solve the issue, regardless of what foreign ministers cry about the atrocities.

Expect a more active mission from Russia in the coming days. They got what they came for.
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Suggest the Russians burn the place to the ground it works best...
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That article is so full of shit. Gotta love the last line about US has been supporting terrorists.. Talk about worthless propaganda..

Meanwhile Assad has been dropping barrels of tnt onto civilians and killing more of his own population than ISIS has..

Russia supports a terrorist dictator and morons here act as if Putin is the baby jesus reborn..

Anyway who the fuck even cares just send the refugee's stright to Russia and then we solve 2 problems.. one less fucked up shit hole in the middle east that the US doesn't have to mess with.
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What's interesting is everything that is happening now, is what Obama said would happen if we DID get involved a few years back. I'm not judging him on this, it likely would have happened either way, but there is some irony.

Additional irony is that we are now getting blamed for doing nothing. Whereas in places we did something, we got blamed there, too!
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What's interesting is everything that is happening now, is what Obama said would happen if we DID get involved a few years back. I'm not judging him on this, it likely would have happened either way, but there is some irony.


Additional irony is that we are now getting blamed for doing nothing. Whereas in places we did something, we got blamed there, too!
Yes, but now it's Russia's problem not ours. See Obama did good..
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That article is so full of shit. Gotta love the last line about US has been supporting terrorists.. Talk about worthless propaganda..

Meanwhile Assad has been dropping barrels of tnt onto civilians and killing more of his own population than ISIS has..

Russia supports a terrorist dictator and morons here act as if Putin is the baby jesus reborn..

Anyway who the fuck even cares just send the refugee's stright to Russia and then we solve 2 problems.. one less fucked up shit hole in the middle east that the US doesn't have to mess with.
And what do you think the USA drops from their bombers ...??? Flowers... Skittles ???
How many iraquis civilians you guys killed ???
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And what do you think the USA drops from their bombers ...??? Flowers... Skittles ???
How many iraquis civilians you guys killed ???
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Yet, while the Russian marines fighting off ISIS attacks is news enough, perhaps the most important revelation is that, according to Segodnia, the ISIS fighters apparently had detailed plans of the base as well as clear satellite imagery of the military installations located there.

The question then becomes, how did ISIS, a terrorist organization which has yet to launch its own satellites into orbit, acquire such sensitive and important material?
.. wouldn`t be the first time you side with terrorists
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.. wouldn`t be the first time you side with terrorists
Of all the possibilities, your first assumption is that the United States gave ISIS satellite imagery of the Russian military base.

You are such an unbiased, progressive, freethinking individual.
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Of all the possibilities, your first assumption is that the United States gave ISIS satellite imagery of the Russian military base.

You are such an unbiased, progressive, freethinking individual.
Well, how about other culprits ... Tell me who has spy satellites and who has an interest in doing that ...

Remember you guys arming, traioning, supporting the fedayeens in Afghanistan ... they were terrrorists and proved it later on .
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That is not so impossible...
My enemy's enemy is my friend.

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Well, how about other culprits ... Tell me who has spy satellites and who has an interest in doing that ...

Remember you guys arming, traioning, supporting the fedayeens in Afghanistan ... they were terrrorists and proved it later on .
you don't need "spy satellites", there are private satellite imagery companies, you pay a few bucks and they send you images... exactly how for example google maps obtains them...
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Yes, but now it's Russia's problem not ours. See Obama did good..
you couldn't be more wrong. BO's lack of foreign policy is what led to his ambivalence in Syria. finally, after much prodding, he sides with the anti-assad forces and sends a bit of help. now IS is there, Ruskies are there and the civil war is there, leaving BO in a quandary, does he flip-flop on the support for the people of Syria now? the only reason putin is there is because BO left the door open in the chess match, putie knows BO will either have to cling to his half-assed help to the uprising or partner up with putie to defeat IS or GTFO and leave those syrian people to be wiped out by assad. that's world diplomacy and international intrigue at a level far beyond where BO is capable of operating.

i know you're going to spin that into a republican something or other, but the fact is BO has done some good things (mostly domestically), I voted for him both times, but he royally fucked up in syria and putie knows it.
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I can easily see how will Putin turn from villain into a savior in many peoples eyes when he fixes Syria..
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I can easily see how will Putin turn from villain into a savior in many peoples eyes when he fixes Syria..
yup. or, barry is right and it is a trap.

seems to be a rather quickly organized assault that came with good intel.
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the Russians now stand directly in opposition to the United States pilots, jet fighters, and special forces operatives on the ground in Syria supporting the death squads (even if the official U.S. line is publicly opposed to ISIS and supportive of ?moderate? cannibals).
Deaths squads and moderate cannibals? Could this be translated to military language instead of some.. well.. what ever that is.
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The Russian military ''assistance'' is not to defeat ISIS -- don't be naive -- Russian military ''assistance'' is to assist the Assad government to keep the part of Syria that it still controls -- and to protect the Russian port and military base interests that are threatened -- to maintain the status quo militarily in the ME.

From the Israeli point-of-view; a stable but hostile Assad government is preferable to ISIS and rebel anarchy on its Golan Heights border as well as less hostile Iranian operations that supposedly are only to prop up the Assad government. You will notice Hezbollah's withdraw yesterday? hmmm ...

I don't know if the Putin-Netanyahu talks in Moscow had anything to do with that or what's happening is just coincidental. On the surface it seems some deal is being made -- by who and what of I have no idea.
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Satellite image shows four Russian Su-30SM parked in the open air at airfield in Syria

Maybe ISIS got the satellite imagery on the Internet :P
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... and the internet got it from ????? Paul Markham ????
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... and the internet got it from ????? Paul Markham ????
Read the article ... and its links?
http://theaviationist.com/2015/09/11...idge-to-syria/
http://theaviationist.com/2015/08/24...er-syria-iraq/

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That article is so full of shit. Gotta love the last line about US has been supporting terrorists..
So it isn't? The imaginary world of the box you are living in amazes me just more and more
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Meanwhile Assad has been dropping barrels of tnt onto civilians and killing more of his own population than ISIS has..
Who cares what he does inside of his country? The States are dropping tons of TNT, Napalm and even nukes on civilians during almost a century. How many US presidents were punished for their war crimes? Stop looking at Assad or someone else, go to a mirror and look at it.
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you couldn't be more wrong. BO's lack of foreign policy is what led to his ambivalence in Syria. finally, after much prodding, he sides with the anti-assad forces and sends a bit of help. now IS is there, Ruskies are there and the civil war is there, leaving BO in a quandary, does he flip-flop on the support for the people of Syria now? the only reason putin is there is because BO left the door open in the chess match, putie knows BO will either have to cling to his half-assed help to the uprising or partner up with putie to defeat IS or GTFO and leave those syrian people to be wiped out by assad. that's world diplomacy and international intrigue at a level far beyond where BO is capable of operating.

i know you're going to spin that into a republican something or other, but the fact is BO has done some good things (mostly domestically), I voted for him both times, but he royally fucked up in syria and putie knows it.
Don't try to rewrite history to fit your agenda.. iS was in Syria since Bush was president. They are the guys Bush was paying "not" to fight in Iraq. They took the money and went to Syria.. When Obama stopped the payments they came back to Iraq.

There was a very good reason why Obama, didn't give the rebels in Syria much of anything.. It because there was no way to keep it out of the hands of IS.
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Just like it was in Afghanistan, Bosnia,Kosovo,Libya. Incredible that there people who are still denying it...incredible
I don't think that anyone denies US supporting Mujahideens in Afghanistan.. back in the days.
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Don't try to rewrite history to fit your agenda.. iS was in Syria since Bush was president. They are the guys Bush was paying "not" to fight in Iraq. They took the money and went to Syria.. When Obama stopped the payments they came back to Iraq.

There was a very good reason why Obama, didn't give the rebels in Syria much of anything.. It because there was no way to keep it out of the hands of IS.
You make up shit like isis was in Syria, Bush was paying them, BO stopped that and also ignored Syria because the help would get funneled to IS and then exclaim I'm rewriting history.


What planet are you parked on this week?

You couldn't find 1 single link to back any of that nonsense up. But I had already called you on your needing to spin my comment.
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Wait, but the Obama apologist Crockett exclaimed BO got it all right and bush was the one funding isis way back when(before they were even around).
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You make up shit like isis was in Syria, Bush was paying them, BO stopped that and also ignored Syria because the help would get funneled to IS and then exclaim I'm rewriting history.


What planet are you parked on this week?

You couldn't find 1 single link to back any of that nonsense up. But I had already called you on your needing to spin my comment.
You clearly didn't pay much attention.. When Bush admin made their big "surge" in Iraq, part of its success was because they got the Sunnis to agree to put down their arms and become the official "police force" in their controlled areas..you may remember "Sons of Iraq" or the "great awaking"...

Those were the former insurgents which had been fighting Our troops. Bush admin as paying them to the tune of 18million a month of US tax dollar to not fight our troops.. It wasn't long before these guys took their new found power to their heads and turned it into a crime racket.. They started strong arming the people they were supposed to protect forcing them to pay protection money and killing those who wouldn't..

It all came to an end when both Obama was elected and stopped paying them not to fight and the new Iraqi govt refused to give them any position with-in the new govt. they then went back to fighting in both Iraq and Syria mostly joining ISIL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Iraq
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You clearly didn't pay much attention.. When Bush admin made their big "surge" in Iraq, part of its success was because they got the Sunnis to agree to put down their arms and become the official "police force" in their controlled areas..you may remember "Sons of Iraq" or the "great awaking"...

Those were the former insurgents which had been fighting Our troops. Bush admin as paying them to the tune of 18million a month of US tax dollar to not fight our troops.. It wasn't long before these guys took their new found power to their heads and turned it into a crime racket.. They started strong arming the people they were supposed to protect forcing them to pay protection money and killing those who wouldn't..

It all came to an end when both Obama was elected and stopped paying them not to fight and the new Iraqi govt refused to give them any position with-in the new govt. they then went back to fighting in both Iraq and Syria mostly joining ISIL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Iraq







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You clearly didn't pay much attention.. When Bush admin made their big "surge" in Iraq, part of its success was because they got the Sunnis to agree to put down their arms and become the official "police force" in their controlled areas..you may remember "Sons of Iraq" or the "great awaking"...

Those were the former insurgents which had been fighting Our troops. Bush admin as paying them to the tune of 18million a month of US tax dollar to not fight our troops.. It wasn't long before these guys took their new found power to their heads and turned it into a crime racket.. They started strong arming the people they were supposed to protect forcing them to pay protection money and killing those who wouldn't..

It all came to an end when both Obama was elected and stopped paying them not to fight and the new Iraqi govt refused to give them any position with-in the new govt. they then went back to fighting in both Iraq and Syria mostly joining ISIL.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Iraq
You didn't even read your own link. Nothing in there about is in Syria or BO's foreign policy that's backs up your wild exclamations.

And you also proved my right on your needing to spin the facts.
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Nothing new here. Russians support Assad. US kinda supports the rebels. They are both against Isis.

I believe when America started doing air strikes they worked out some system so they don't accidentally bomb each other.

It's an acknowledgement that Isis is worst than Assad.
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I guess that they haven't heard about camouflage.
I guess they just don't give a single fuck about it since everybody knows they are there (was not a secret)

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Nothing new here. Russians support Assad. US kinda supports the rebels. They are both against Isis.
O'rly?

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In early 2015, Yousaf al Salafi, a man believed to be the Pakistani commander of Islamic State, confessed during investigations that he has been receiving money through the United States.

A few months after al Salafi revealed the funding he was receiving was routed through the United States, Michael Flynn, former director of Obama?s Defence Intelligence Agency, said he warned the Obama administration three years ago that the groups they were funding in Syria were actually Islamic jihadists. Now, a group of 50 intelligence analysts working out of the U.S. military?s Central Command have complained that their reports on Islamic State and the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda were being incorrectly changed by senior officials.

On January 22, law enforcing agencies in Pakistan claimed they arrested not only al Salafi, but also two other people during a raid in the city of Lahore. A source familiar with the investigation told Daily Express that during the investigation al Salafi admitted he received funding to run the organisation in Pakistan and ?recruit young people to fight in Syria.? The Pakistani-Syrian entered Pakistan via Turkey last year, but it was previously reported that he crossed into Turkey from Syria, was caught there but managed to escape and went to Pakistan to establish ISIS in the region.

Daily Express cited sources as saying that John Kerry, the U.S. Secretary of State was familiar with al Salafi?s revelations and so was CENTCOM chief General Lloyd Austin. Al Salafi confessed he was recruiting people with a Pakistani accomplice to send them to Syria and was receiving around US$600 per person.

A recently declassified 2012 document shows that ?Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood and AQI [Al-Qaeda in Iraq]? were listed as the ?major forces driving the insurgency in Syria.? The document also revealed that ?the West, Gulf countries and Turkey support the opposition while Russia, China and Iran support the regime.? According to the declassified document, the Obama administration was warned in 2012 that these Islamic jihadists wanted to create a ?Salafist principality in eastern Syria? and that ISI [Islamic State of Iraq] could declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria, which will create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of its territory.?

Now, over 50 intelligence analysts have formally claimed their reports on Islamic State and al-Qaeda?s branch in Syria were altered by senior officials, The Daily Beast reported. An investigation into the alleged manipulation of intelligence has been opened.

A couple of months ago, two senior analysts at CENTCOM claimed in a written complaint to the Defence Department inspector general that the reports described the terror groups as weaker than they believe they are. The reports, some of which were briefed to the U.S. president, were altered by CENTCOM senior officials to make sure it adheres to the presidential administration?s public line that the United States is winning the fight against Islamic State and an al-Qaeda branch in Syria named al-Nusra, the analysts told the publication. The written complaint was supported by 50 other intelligence analysts.

In recent months, members of the Obama administration have tried to convince the population that the fight against ISIS may soon be over. ?ISIS is losing,? John Allen, retired Marine general charged with coordinating the Islamic State campaign said in July.
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there has been talk of the chinese sending troops to syria as well
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