Originally Posted by Sly

Research by the USA formed the Internet.

/endthread

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Nobody would have come up with it at all if it was not for you?

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

who the fuk is "we" ????

Originally Posted by American Psycho

Suck my American dick you fuktard.

You couldn't pay .50c or $700 so what do you care

You are so retarded that you make your living from the Internet ,an American creation yet you start a thread about how there's not American inventions.

That pretty much sums up your retarded anti American campaign.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

blah blah blah

Originally Posted by crucifissio

everybody...do YOU for example want the USA or Cuba to find the cure for cancer? Its a simple question:

Do you want your loved ones to pay 700$/pill or 50cents/pill

Its a very simple question

Originally Posted by newB

You're an idiot. Foreign manufacturers can and do manufacture their own generics - regardless of patents - all the time. It's called "compulsory licensing."

Also, out of curiosity I searched for "Serbian Inventions" and got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ian_inventions

Wow, claiming Nikola Tesla would really have bolstered your argument if he had stayed there. But he didn't. Now where did he go, again? Oh, that's right. The US.

But you still have the strawberry tree - nobody would have figured out to hook up a solar panel to a mobile device.

Originally Posted by Sly

Research by the USA formed the Internet.

/endthread

Originally Posted by crucifissio

everybody...do YOU for example want the USA or Cuba to find the cure for cancer? Its a simple question:

Do you want your loved ones to pay 700$/pill or 50cents/pill

Its a very simple question

Originally Posted by woj

so invest Billions into research yourself, discover something, and then you can do whatever you want with your discovery... give it away for free for anyone cares... there is nothing stopping you from doing that...

Originally Posted by crucifissio

ok answer the question then, do you want the USA to invent the cure and you end up paying 700$pill or do you want cuba to make the cure and it costs 50cents? its a simple question...

how amusing is it that none of you would want the USA to invent it for obvious reasons? LOL you guys cant even admit it LOL

Originally Posted by crucifissio

or at least name some ground breaking cures the multi trillion $$$ US researchers have found in the last 50 years? <sound of crickets chirping><complete silence><realization that its all a scam>

Originally Posted by georgeyw

So do you think old mate increasing the price of a pill by whatever insane percentage, was ok? Profiting is fine, mega/super profits (price gouging) should end up in jail sentences

Especially if that price gouging can lead to deaths.

Originally Posted by Rochard

I don't care who finds the cure so long as it's found.

Originally Posted by Rochard

The difference is the United States invests billions into finding the cure every year, and will find it much sooner than Cuba who invests five million into research.

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Same shit every day ........ yawn.

Originally Posted by newB

OK, I'll bite. If the scenario is exactly as you describe it, and those are the only two options, then of course I would want Cuba to develop the cure.

However, let's say that I have this cancer, and there are two treatment options available to me. A $700 pill that has been tested and approved by the FDA or a $0.50 pill that hasn't been tested and could be anything, really. I'll pay the $700, thank you.

Originally Posted by newB

Sofosbuvir by Pharmasset (Princeton, New Jersey), marketed since 2013, is hailed as the cure for Hepatitis.

Now, go eat a dick.

Originally Posted by woj

it sounds sleazy, but I don't know enough details to know if it was really price gauging or not... it's quite likely that the media is omitting some critical details to make the story sounds sensational...

...but lets say some company does research on some drug, clinical trials, etc, and spends 25 Billlion in the process... I don't have any problem with them charging any amount they want, so they can recover their investment within reasonable amount of time and also reinvest the profits into research into new drugs while they are at it...

Originally Posted by Jel

OP is better than meatman at this

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Of course you want the cure to be found as soon as possible but this was not the question was it?

WHO do you want to find the cure first?<----------this is the question

If somebody asked you if you want to pay 700$/pill or 50 cents you would not even think LOL

I do not believe you do not care WHO finds it



yes but those billions are diluted by US bullshit, if a hip replacement in the USA costs 40.000$ and only 7000$ in spain for example and free in the 3rd world then you can imagine how far the "research money" in the USA goes

dude you do not even produce goods in the USA any more because your country has become such a rip off, why on earth do you think the USA is a good place to do research I do not know

it is simply not cost effective to do anything in the USA, I am not arguing that the investors will not make a killing, I am arguing that from the perspective of normal people, its better for everybody if a cure for cancer is not invented in the USA

now you either have something to show for the trillions, not billions like you say, that has been invested in medical research in the USA and you can list some major cures the USA has found in the last 50 years, or I am completely right and you are wrong LOL

Originally Posted by Sly

Winners take the spoils.

I know that's something you aren't familiar with, winning. You should try it though sometime, it's awesome.

Originally Posted by Rochard

You right, it's not cost effective to do anything in the USA.

A few years ago my mother needed a rather simple, common, operation. It would have cost her $20k here in the US, but instead she flew out of the country, paid half, got a vacation out of it, and her recovery room over looked the ocean.

Originally Posted by Sandman

Winner takes the spoils

Originally Posted by Rochard

You right, it's not cost effective to do anything in the USA.

A few years ago my mother needed a rather simple, common, operation. It would have cost her $20k here in the US, but instead she flew out of the country, paid half, got a vacation out of it, and her recovery room over looked the ocean.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Cuba will never invent anything, beyond a cool drink or dance.

So it's left to a few Countries to do the job. Wait until Americans are pay $10,000 a pill for a Chinese invented pill. While China produces pirated pills for sale.

No one is forced to buy the pills. And before they were invented no one had the option. Stop buying them, saying the price is extortionate, and the price will plummet.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

why don't you get your mom some health insurance? it's also not accurate to make sweeping generalizations that "it's not cost-effective to do anything in the USA" based on your mom not having insurance.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

dumbfuck op, heads-up:::::::;

Of almost 3,000 articles published in biomedical research in 2009, 1,169, or 40%, came from the United States. As the line graph below demonstrates (that?s the number of publications on the Y axis, and the year of publication on the X axis), the output of every other single country in the world is dwarfed by what America produces. The closest contender is Great Britain, which comes in at about 300 articles. (Per the comments below, I?m waiting for more explanation of these numbers.)


It?s certainly possible that the U.S. is publishing entirely low quality data, but another data point, the citation score, seems to indicate that isn?t true. The citation score is the number of times an average paper was referenced by other scientific papers. In the graph below, the Y axis is the citation score and the X axis is the number of publications in total.

The Most Innovative Countries In Biology And Medicine[/url]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

This is not true. Cuba has a working vaccine against cancer, it is not almighty but it works in most cases. Keep in mind that cuba is a 3rd world shit hole under mafia sanctions from the USA for almost half a century. They have cured vitiligo as well, this is not bad for a 3rd world shit hole.

As for "do not buy if you do not like" well...if you are dying you pretty much have no choice but to buy...its medicine...not some worthless I crap...

<sarcasm>Also look at the long list of stuff the USA has invented in medicine in the last 50 years </sarcasm>

Originally Posted by crucifissio

one should not have to insure against robbery LOL

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If a President put it to the people, they would vote overwhelmingly to Nationalise Healthcare. Unless too stupid to realise they would be far better off. As they will never be given the choice, never vote for politicians who will give them the choice, it's hypothetical.

A country gets the government it deserves.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

ok so you make a lot of publications, good for you, its decent of you to admit that lots of publications do not mean high quality data, this is a huge step for you

Now you should have no trouble at all listing what diseases the USA has cured in the last 50 years?

Originally Posted by dyna mo

dumbfuck, where the fuck do you think research gets communicated? in fucking medical research journals, dumbfuck.

and yes, according to the study, it is high quality data and that's why i also included that fucking statistic in my post. but you're too much of a dumbfuckwad to figure that out.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

ok so you will not have a problem listing some cures for diseases that the USA has found in the last 50 years...I mean all them papers and billions of $$$ you must have something to show for it other than "we get cited in papers"

other than the 1000$/pill hep cure what do you have to show for all them billions? its a fair question