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[Labret] · 03-20-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
Labret were you using processors from the EU and USA together on the same sites?

Oops, misunderstood.

Nope.

[Labret] · 03-20-2003, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by HardProfits
iBill rebills fine

iBill sales fine

InterCept doing a purge for reasons I am well aware of, and in most cases is a good thing

Prognosis - InterCept will ditch people and accounts that are considered unsound to proceed with

ibill fleeing from gay porn is not a good sign.

Shoplifter · 03-20-2003, 06:12 PM

I thought mixing zones is a big issue...If you are in USA you cannot use Verotel etc...

I can't believe they didn't give you some sort of notice or explanation about this, the money is hardly trivial.

[Labret] · 03-20-2003, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
I thought mixing zones is a big issue...If you are in USA you cannot use Verotel etc...

I can't believe they didn't give you some sort of notice or explanation about this, the money is hardly trivial.

Tell Verotel that.

Im hoping its just some accounting fuckup, Im not all that worried. I been with them since 97.

I just heard the rumors and they just so happened to correspond with my disappearing rebills and the lack of response from my rep. All that combined with the class actions lawsuits, the massive fines that were thrown at them. It just stinks of trouble.

I dont know whats going on. Thats why I asked.

Kimmykim · 03-20-2003, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by freeme
I just talked to a buddy of mine there or formerly

Yup 40 gone

just like that and he was one of them

Tell me, did he mention being escorted out by security, lots of security?

Something is going on here, not sure what, but I have my own thoughts on the matter.

Bake · 03-20-2003, 06:32 PM

Didnt you once used to say Ibill was the better [Labret]
Im sure I remember about 18 months ago when I was saying to watch them you where jumping in saying there cool?

foreverjason · 03-20-2003, 06:32 PM

Who does this leave for legit CC Processors?

The Other Steve · 03-20-2003, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Tell me, did he mention being escorted out by security, lots of security?

Something is going on here, not sure what, but I have my own thoughts on the matter.

Being escorted out by security is about normal for lots of IT related businesses - lots of security?

Hmmmmmmm

40 does seem to be a very large number if you're thinking what I think your thinking.

FATPad · 03-20-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Perhaps Cathy can come and update us

HAHA

That was funny.

Shoplifter · 03-20-2003, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

Tell me, did he mention being escorted out by security, lots of security?

Something is going on here, not sure what, but I have my own thoughts on the matter.

You always build the suspense in your biz related posts...let's hear it.

Shoplifter · 03-20-2003, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

I dont know whats going on. Thats why I asked.

You sir are a shit disturber!

I hope the 40 people they canned are the same 40 that had lied to my face over the years. Firing 40 employees at Ibill may not be a bad thing.

I will say that Ibill Cathy kept her word to me through several big crises and I wish her well.

Who knows maybe they looked at the books and found some naughty goings on....escorted a few guys out.

FlyingIguana · 03-20-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
Rumor is 40 people got fired.

Rumor is they are getting out of adult altogether.

I would find it hard to believe... but 3 days ago all my rebills with iBill were cancelled. And when I say all my rebills, I mean ALL my rebills. And I sure as fuck didnt cancel them.

And I cannot get ahold of my rep.

Glad I jumped ship a year ago. Still, 120k a year in rebills is gonna sting a little.

Anyone else seen their rebills go up in smoke?

I dont like rumor, I really dislike rumor, but this source was credible. And I know I am not the only one who knows this right now. Im just a big enough asshole to post it first.

wtf do I have to lose? My rebills? phhhttt

Bye iBill, it was a good ride. Thanks for the house!

ibill go down the hooooooooooooole!

chupacabra · 03-20-2003, 06:50 PM

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Something is going on here, not sure what, but I have my own thoughts on the matter.

kimmy, please give up your vaulted thoughts on this matter, the people deserve to know..!

stocktrader23 · 03-20-2003, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter

I will say that Ibill Cathy kept her word to me through several big crises and I wish her well.

Point is, why were there several big problems to begin with.

[Labret] · 03-20-2003, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Bake
Didnt you once used to say Ibill was the better [Labret]
Im sure I remember about 18 months ago when I was saying to watch them you where jumping in saying there cool?

6 years and 7 figures paid to me like clockwork.

Yeah, Id say they were cool.

But maybe I am biased.

Buzz_Aziani · 03-20-2003, 07:16 PM

Alright Now Im getting a little worried. No Rebills with IBill today.

Thank God we only used Ibill as a backup.

Thanks for the heads up Labret

Kimmykim · 03-20-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by The Other Steve

40 does seem to be a very large number if you're thinking what I think your thinking.

I dunno what you think I'm thinking...

I don't really have any comments on the matter chupa, shoplifter, et al, until there are some substantiated facts out there.

Lord knows if I were Ms Cleo, my basketball picks would be looking better today.

Steve Z. · 03-20-2003, 07:28 PM

Sign-up with ETI. Email to [email protected] and you'll get signed-up with a CC/merchant account. ADULT AND GAMBLING sites are welcome to process, or even call 818-571-8602 and ask for Steve.

Thanks

Platinum Dave · 03-20-2003, 07:52 PM

Rediculous, iBill is going no wherew

angelsofporn · 03-20-2003, 08:02 PM

Kimmykim · 03-20-2003, 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Z.
Sign-up with ETI. Email to [email protected] and you'll get signed-up with a CC/merchant account. ADULT AND GAMBLING sites are welcome to process, or even call 818-571-8602 and ask for Steve.

Thanks

One can only hope that Steve Z is banned rapidly and without reconsideration.

Even MF has the good sense not to spam in THIS thread.

Kick Ass Chat · 03-20-2003, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Rediculous, iBill is going no wherew

Wrong!!! Just look at the recent situation with them. Many people fired, missing checks, no pay for 900 #'s (thats a scam right there), recent bounced checks (criminal), Not 1 single word from them, Now rebill's wiped clean??...... Does someone have to hit you in the head with a hammer ???......Open your eyes man...

Nina · 03-20-2003, 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

One can only hope that Steve Z is banned rapidly and without reconsideration.

Even MF has the good sense not to spam in THIS thread.

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 08:19 PM

Coke lays off thousands and no one says they are going out of business. Thats management 101 have less people do more. I worked for a company laid off a third of their work force and that was almost two years and they are still humming.

stocktrader23 · 03-20-2003, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Coke lays off thousands and no one says they are going out of business. Thats management 101 have less people do more. I worked for a company laid off a third of their work force and that was almost two years and they are still humming.

Another irrelivent fucking comment. Ok, If I call coke and tell them there was poison in the coke I bought will they ignore me?

If coke raises their price by $1.00 a can and every store quits carrying it would they ignore them?

Regardless of whether or not Ibill is staying or going the sorry fucks need to get off their ass and run their business like a,

get this......................BUSINESS!

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 08:27 PM

I just checked I had rebills go thru today

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 08:34 PM

Also you have to remember the integrity of cokes customers is much higher than adult webmasters .Coke doesnt have to worry about customers trying to cheat and steal from consumers. Promising them lots of Coke to only find out they paid for RC or promising free cases of coke to consumers to try, only for those consumers to find out they were charged fifty dollars for that coke. You forget the number of thieves and con men in our business. Third party processors have to deal with them and I respect that. If you are not happy with them get your own merchant account its simple if you are not a thief thats not hard to do.

ronin · 03-20-2003, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

One can only hope that Steve Z is banned rapidly and without reconsideration.

Even MF has the good sense not to spam in THIS thread.

second that.

AmeliaG · 03-20-2003, 09:18 PM

I had rebills go through today with ibill and my scheduled rebills look fine. Are folks daying that ibll is refusing to process gay male sites now? I didn't quite follow that part of this thread. I'm pretty sure that sort of discrimination is illegal in a bunch of states, although probably hunky-dorey in Florida.

--Amelia G

NETbilling · 03-20-2003, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Backov
CCBill and Epoch look to be the strong survivors, for US based sites. Can't say that I can think of any others.

Cheers,
Backov

Uhhh,

There are surely a few others who are going very, very strong as well. I won't name any names though.

Mitch

p00p · 03-20-2003, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by netbilling

Uhhh,

Netbilling, Jettis, and a few others are very, very strong.

Mitch

True enough.

NetRodent · 03-20-2003, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by netbilling

Uhhh,

There are surely a few others who are going very, very strong as well. I won't name any names though.

Mitch

We all appreciate your restraint.

NETbilling · 03-20-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent

We all appreciate your restraint.

NP... It is hard though.

Mitch

Trolleater · 03-20-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Just because they may pay up for the rebills doesn't mean the checks are good.. SEVERAL of their checks to us have bounced lately, and they weren't huge amounts.. they were leftovers that we were finally getting after we stopped dealing with them... 8 months ago, almost a year thereabouts..

I've dealt with the same problems. They've been fucking with me for about 6 months....been a hassle trying to get my money out of them. Several times they've sent me checks that I never got or the wouldn't state the currency on the check...so I couldn't cash the them...and then they'd charge me for stop payments on bullshit checks. The other day after having enough with their checks I asked to get switched to wire...They told me to send them of list of checks that I wanted cancelled and sent as a wire....did that and the next day the fuckin' monkeys there wrote me an email and said all the checks were added up and one new check was mailed to me...I'm soon ready to take a trip to Florida, anyone who wants to join let me know.

Va2k · 03-20-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

One can only hope that Steve Z is banned rapidly and without reconsideration.

Even MF has the good sense not to spam in THIS thread.

This company is a fucking scam, I had one of the hillbillies call me told me 5 times that she has a site that makes 16million a MONTH I said a MONTH? It went all down hill, she also states she didtn know a steveZ *shrugs*

quiet · 03-20-2003, 10:44 PM

including all reserves + the Mar 1st to 15th period + my (now late) wire, ibill currently owes me over 500K. the rebills are worth much, much more. hmm.

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 10:44 PM

I know I am going to get attacked for this, we never had a problem with money from ibill. People that have had problems are you sure you were doing everything kosher ?

Ludedude · 03-20-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Rediculous, iBill is going no wherew

Here's a little history lesson for you Dave.

DMR

stocktrader23 · 03-20-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
including all reserves + the Mar 1st to 15th period + my (now late) wire, ibill currently owes me over 500K. the rebills are worth millions. hmm.

That has to suck. Even if they eventually get you squared away the bullshit they have put you through after making them so much money is enough to keep me away forever. Good luck with all of it.

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 10:51 PM

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ibill currently owes me over 500K. the rebills are worth millions. hmm.

Maybe I am stupid, why would anyone generating over 25K a month use a third party processor? If you are making that kind of money you can afford to hire three people 30 k a year each to watch cc processing and do customer service around the clock.

Brad Mitchell · 03-20-2003, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Maybe I am stupid

...maybe...

Brad

stocktrader23 · 03-20-2003, 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by tony404

Maybe I am stupid, why would anyone generating over 25K a month use a third party processor? If you are making that kind of money you can afford to hire three people 30 k a year each to watch cc processing and do customer service around the clock.

That would be 250k a month.

quiet · 03-20-2003, 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by tony404

Maybe I am stupid, why would anyone generating over 25K a month use a third party processor? If you are making that kind of money you can afford to hire three people 30 k a year each to watch cc processing and do customer service around the clock.

you don't have a clue. i already handle customer service within my company - that has nothing to do with it.

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 10:58 PM

Why dont I have clue? If you run your business honestly why dont you have your own merchant account. If you are not fucking people it shouldnt be a problem. There is alot less of a chance of a bank going out of business as opposed to a third party processor going under and if a bank goes under they are still your customers.

quiet · 03-20-2003, 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Why dont I have clue? If you run your business honestly why dont you have your own merchant account. If you are not fucking people it shouldnt be a problem. There is alot less of a chance of a bank going out of business as opposed to a third party processor going under and if a bank goes under they are still your customers.

clueless.

tony286 · 03-20-2003, 11:02 PM

Thats funny I am clueless ibill is current with me

And it was more of a question but you chose to be nasty, I admire someone like yourself that makes that much money.

rossiya2 · 03-20-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by hyper

I'm not saying buy a fucking Aston Martin..
but dude get an Avalon or something

Ford Bronco no?

quiet · 03-20-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Thats funny I am clueless ibill is current with me

your sentence makes no sense. and i really don't care.

Pornwolf · 03-20-2003, 11:05 PM

Ford Broncos are nice trucks.

quiet · 03-20-2003, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
Thats funny I am clueless ibill is current with me And it was more of a question but you chose to be nasty, I admire someone like yourself that makes that much money.

re: you're edit. scrubbing for fraud, the fact that i'm tied to ibill for at least a year if i left tomorrow due to the rebills (longer due to the reserve). i built my entire business with ibill, and i'm close to retirement. all are factors.

and i've always been paid by ibill. there have been delays, but i've always got every penny. so far (except for web900, which is a joke). in this business, anything can happen. i run things each day with that in mind.

03-20-2003, 06:32 PM	#106
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,093	Didnt you once used to say Ibill was the better [Labret] Im sure I remember about 18 months ago when I was saying to watch them you where jumping in saying there cool? __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

03-20-2003, 07:16 PM	#116
Buzz_Aziani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 567	Alright Now Im getting a little worried. No Rebills with IBill today. Thank God we only used Ibill as a backup. Thanks for the heads up Labret __________________ Aziani.com 2Poles1HOle.com

03-20-2003, 07:52 PM	#119
Platinum Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,441	Rediculous, iBill is going no wherew __________________ Check out Adult Rental - Only Pay Per Signup VOD!

03-20-2003, 08:02 PM	#120
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	yup Last edited by angelsofporn; 03-20-2003 at 08:17 PM..

03-20-2003, 09:18 PM	#129
AmeliaG Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,547	I had rebills go through today with ibill and my scheduled rebills look fine. Are folks daying that ibll is refusing to process gay male sites now? I didn't quite follow that part of this thread. I'm pretty sure that sort of discrimination is illegal in a bunch of states, although probably hunky-dorey in Florida. --Amelia G __________________ GFY Hall of Famer AltStar Hall of Famer Blue Blood's SpookyCash.com Babe photography portfolio

03-20-2003, 06:12 PM	#103
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,698	I thought mixing zones is a big issue...If you are in USA you cannot use Verotel etc... I can't believe they didn't give you some sort of notice or explanation about this, the money is hardly trivial.

03-20-2003, 06:32 PM	#107
foreverjason Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,452	Who does this leave for legit CC Processors?

03-20-2003, 07:28 PM	#118
Steve Z. Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: n/a Posts: 32	Sign-up with ETI. Email to [email protected] and you'll get signed-up with a CC/merchant account. ADULT AND GAMBLING sites are welcome to process, or even call 818-571-8602 and ask for Steve. Thanks

03-20-2003, 08:19 PM	#124
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Coke lays off thousands and no one says they are going out of business. Thats management 101 have less people do more. I worked for a company laid off a third of their work force and that was almost two years and they are still humming.

03-20-2003, 08:27 PM	#126
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I just checked I had rebills go thru today

03-20-2003, 08:34 PM	#127
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Also you have to remember the integrity of cokes customers is much higher than adult webmasters .Coke doesnt have to worry about customers trying to cheat and steal from consumers. Promising them lots of Coke to only find out they paid for RC or promising free cases of coke to consumers to try, only for those consumers to find out they were charged fifty dollars for that coke. You forget the number of thieves and con men in our business. Third party processors have to deal with them and I respect that. If you are not happy with them get your own merchant account its simple if you are not a thief thats not hard to do.

03-20-2003, 10:44 PM	#136
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	including all reserves + the Mar 1st to 15th period + my (now late) wire, ibill currently owes me over 500K. the rebills are worth much, much more. hmm. Last edited by quiet; 03-20-2003 at 10:58 PM..

03-20-2003, 10:44 PM	#137
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I know I am going to get attacked for this, we never had a problem with money from ibill. People that have had problems are you sure you were doing everything kosher ?

03-20-2003, 10:58 PM	#144
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Why dont I have clue? If you run your business honestly why dont you have your own merchant account. If you are not fucking people it shouldnt be a problem. There is alot less of a chance of a bank going out of business as opposed to a third party processor going under and if a bank goes under they are still your customers.

03-20-2003, 11:02 PM	#146
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Thats funny I am clueless ibill is current with me And it was more of a question but you chose to be nasty, I admire someone like yourself that makes that much money.

03-20-2003, 11:05 PM	#149
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