Tesla Model S problem with the police

[femdomdestiny]

[CurrentlySober]

But why did they need to see his ID? He had done nothing wrong, and they had the licence plate of the car...

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

But why did they need to see his ID? He had done nothing wrong, and they had the licence plate of the car...

He was detained and asked for his ID to make sure the drivers license is valid .

[CurrentlySober]

Fair play - I never thought about his licence.. I just heard them say ID...

[femdomdestiny]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Fair play - I never thought about his licence.. I just heard them say ID...

Regarding what I am watching online, I was thinking that they were looking for some excuse to execute him

[MrBottomTooth]

If only they'd show up so quick after I report a robbery. I'm just gonna start telling them I seen someone driving kids around with no seat belts.

[mineistaken]

Seats in the trunk, is that safe? In terms of some car or truck hitting back of the car.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

If only they'd show up so quick after I report a robbery. I'm just gonna start telling them I seen someone driving kids around with no seat belts.

Different locations, different response times.
Also it seems like you are talking about robbery post factum, not robbery in action. This was "in action" call, they had to b on time, robbery post factum is not that urgent.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Different locations, different response times.
Also it seems like you are talking about robbery post factum, not robbery in action. This was "in action" call, they had to b on time, robbery post factum is not that urgent.

Nah, they just don't care about vehicle thefts around here. We live in a small community and we've had over 30 gm trucks stolen in the past 4 months. Our community is so small that when we hear about another theft we usually know the person who owned the vehicle. The police don't respond to the theft calls with urgency whether they're in progress or not. They're happy to wait until the vehicle shows up burned on the Indian reserve. Now if you call in to report a drunk driver they'll send out a swat team.

The thefts are not going to stop here until a homeowner shoots one of the thieves.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

The police don't respond to the theft calls with urgency whether they're in progress or not

I will take your words with grain of salt as it is VERY unusual for police to to respond urgently with robbery in progress. Must be pretty unique police department.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Seats in the trunk, is that safe? In terms of some car or truck hitting back of the car.

it's not safe and it's very stupid.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I will take your words with grain of salt as it is VERY unusual for police to to respond urgently with robbery in progress. Must be pretty unique police department.

Typical small town police force. Part of it has to do with jurisdictions on Indian reserves, but there's no reason they can't stop these thefts. They know where they are going, exact type of vehicles they are targeting, etc. I could setup a bait truck and track these fuckers down in a week. But that's what we are paying these clowns 90k a year to do.

[MrBottomTooth]

Stolen car alert: COPO Camaro | Hemmings Daily

Here's how our police handle thefts of 100k cars. They'd rather let the owner buy it back from the thieves than have to go on the reserve themselves to deal with the wagon burners.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's not safe and it's very stupid.

I wonder how did this slip through safety regulations and what not.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Typical small town police force. Part of it has to do with jurisdictions on Indian reserves, but there's no reason they can't stop these thefts. They know where they are going, exact type of vehicles they are targeting, etc. I could setup a bait truck and track these fuckers down in a week. But that's what we are paying these clowns 90k a year to do.

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year? Or are you suggesting that is how much the entire force combined receives?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I wonder how did this slip through safety regulations and what not.

sorry, i meant it's dangerous to stuff the kids in the trunk, not that there are seats in it.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's not safe and it's very stupid.

Hmmm, we grew up with station wagons that had the exact same setup ... just no seat belts.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Hmmm, we grew up with station wagons that had the exact same setup ... just no seat belts.

station wagons don't have trunks.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Seats in the trunk, is that safe? In terms of some car or truck hitting back of the car.

Why wouldn't it be safe? Some cars have back seats but no trunks.

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

But why did they need to see his ID? He had done nothing wrong, and they had the licence plate of the car...

This was really a traffic stop, but because they had reason to believe a child's life was in danger that was their primary concern.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Why wouldn't it be safe?

for one thing, humans need oxygen to live.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Hmmm, we grew up with station wagons that had the exact same setup ... just no seat belts.

you're right

i just checked and see that this is a hatchback config with rear facing child seats, like those wagons. i had assumed it was a trunk on the model s.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year? Or are you suggesting that is how much the entire force combined receives?

Ontario, Canada.

A lot of them make what we call the Sunshine List, which is any public employee that makes over $100K a year.

http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/201...t-opp-salaries

Of course after the incompetent liberals approved a one year pay raise of 8.5%, that's to be expected.

OPP get 8.5% pay hike in 2014 | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

A first class OPP constable currently earns $83,483 a year, and a pay hike of about 8.5% would raise that to just under $90,600.

[baddog]

Sorry, didn't see your followup

[dyna mo]

although mineistaken makes a valid point

[baddog]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Ontario, Canada.

A lot of them make what we call the Sunshine List, which is any public employee that makes over $100K a year.

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Of course after the incompetent liberals approved a one year pay raise of 8.5%, that's to be expected.

OPP get 8.5% pay hike in 2014 | Ontario | News | Toronto Sun

How much of that is due to overtime?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

You usually do more research than this; you are slipping.

it's marketed as a sedan, not a hatchback.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's marketed as a sedan, not a hatchback.

Damn, you keep editing your comments before I can finish my response ... I am trying to think of a hatchback that has seating back there. Maybe that's why it is a sedan.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by baddog

Damn, you keep editing your comments before I can finish my response

if you're gonna try and play gotcha, well...........




anyway, a trunk is no place to stuff the kids. for several reasons and i also would not put the kids in the hatch of a model s, due to rear collision safety.

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by baddog

How much of that is due to overtime?

I have no idea. This is the OPP salary grid.

Ontario Provincial Police | Careers

So I'm assuming none of that is overtime for a 3 year first class constable. Sounds like flat salary. I'm assuming overtime is what pushes many of them over the 100K mark a year putting them on the sunshine list.

[Choopa Phil]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year? Or are you suggesting that is how much the entire force combined receives?

Same here in our town as well 100K+ for most of them...some of the highest paid around

HOLMDEL TOWNSHIP - Police and Fire Local Payroll Data Records [2013]

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

sorry, i meant it's dangerous to stuff the kids in the trunk, not that there are seats in it.

Pretty much the same thing. Unless you say that sitting there is somehow only dangerous for kids, but not adults.

[mineistaken]

Baddog, were your seats legit (not "home made" lol) in the trunk of station wagon?
Usually station wagons have looong trunks and definitely no seats, rear end collision is not a problem like in this tesla.

Check out how far away from the back of the car is the last row of seats in a modern station wagon:

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

although mineistaken makes a valid point

I wonder if baddog did actually have seats in that crashed part of the car... never saw that

[GerryTJ]

Can't wait to get my Tesla so I can go bonkers. Now I'm on my second Prius. #CarbonImprint

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Baddog, were your seats legit (not "home made" lol) in the trunk of station wagon?
Usually station wagons have looong trunks and definitely no seats, rear end collision is not a problem like in this tesla.

they were legit seats. Back when you could buy a station wagon the size of a bus, covered in fake wood grain, and with a 460 cubic inch big block.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

they were legit seats. Back when you could buy a station wagon the size of a bus, covered in fake wood grain, and with a 460 cubic inch big block.

sweet ride.

[PluginForage]

Police brutality. I would sue.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

they were legit seats. Back when you could buy a station wagon the size of a bus, covered in fake wood grain, and with a 460 cubic inch big block.

Safety regulations were loose back then
I bet you could not produce one like that these days. That is why I am surprised about these Tesla seats. Very surprised.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Safety regulations were loose back then
I bet you could not produce one like that these days. That is why I am surprised about these Tesla seats. Very surprised.

Mercedes E-Class

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Safety regulations were loose back then
I bet you could not produce one like that these days. That is why I am surprised about these Tesla seats. Very surprised.

Regular Van - you think this is any better?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

Regular Van - you think this is any better?

i think the idea that the kids would be facing outwards freaks people out. i wouldn't put my kid in that kind of car. at least with vans or suv's that have the 3 row seating there is a seat between the kid and the back door. not sure how much that would help in a high impact collision but its probably better than the kids watching the car crash right into them.

[DirtyDanza]

My grandfather had a Mercury Sable with the Jump seats in the back

[Google Expert]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year?

new jersey

thats with all the benefits and all

[JFK]

Originally Posted by baddog

Hmmm, we grew up with station wagons that had the exact same setup ... just no seat belts.

yup

[videobunch]

I would feel safer in the back of a Tesla then being in a Smart Car.

[Socks]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year? Or are you suggesting that is how much the entire force combined receives?

The ?sunshine list? for Toronto Police: A full list of officers making more than $100K per year | National Post

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by baddog

Where do you live that cops are paid $90k a year? Or are you suggesting that is how much the entire force combined receives?

A first-class constable in Niagara Region makes $85k.

3.05% hike for cops 'unreasonable:' D'Angela | St. Catharines Standard

In 2011 - 317 cops made the 'sunshine list' with salaries over $100,000.

http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/201...ub-grows-by-82

David Sawyer, staff sergeant, $197,372
Patrick McCauley, staff sergeant, $175,039

Niagara Sunshine List | St. Catharines Standard

[crockett]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Seats in the trunk, is that safe? In terms of some car or truck hitting back of the car.

Volvo had rear facing seats in their wagons for years. Volvo was always considered one of the safest cars.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's not safe and it's very stupid.

I'd trust it.



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