@Beaver1

PLEASE USE paxum

I have never used Paxum because there are too many problems reported.
My CB payout is set to wire transfer.

Always link to the room.. I want all the names...

chaturbate.com/chroniclove

Have you reported? I always report these cheaters, but all my emails are ignored :upsidedow

A: the model

I feel like a doomsday prophete on the streets of New York: I've raised that question over a year ago.


Back in february I proposed a quick fix for whitelabels owners:
This was hiding harmful links (customers hijacking) ONLY thus protecting the original referrer when the domain isn't chaturbate.com (whitelabels). All other links/leaks were left untouched (social, personal sites, etc ..)

But cb, this time, was quick to technically disable this code (try to apply it to one of your whitelabels). :upsidedow

How is everyone's signup rate? Mine seems down in April (end of chart):

https://i.imgur.com/B02liWtl.png

receive payment on the 18th with Paxum.
Wonder if the Easter long weekend could have delay the wire ?

My wire payment arived today thanks for the feedbacks.

https://i.imgur.com/5UUonTa.jpg

This cheater is online right now :321GFY

https://en.chaturbate.com/chroniclove/

You're kidding me. I still use the code that blocks nofollow but it makes a bit of a mess of things.

Signups for me are at about 20% of where I was last fall.

The first version I posted here was a bit drastic, but the code above is not intrusive.

What code do you have running and what mess does it do. I can make suggestions.

I am concerned about this but I would like a few more feedback. We navigate in the dark here. I think signups count when email has been confirmed, is this correct? Has it always been like this? It would really be helpful if someone from Chaturbate could tell us how it works and if changes were made so we know the cause-effects.

I suppose I am using the first version which hides pretty much everything:

a[rel="nofollow"] {
visibility:hidden;
}
img[rel="nofollow"] {
visibility:hidden;
}


This will be my worst period for spending ever unless the next six days have a miraculous turnaround.

Yes you are using the 1st version, it is drastic.

Try this out instead:

without visibility nor feedback from cb, we can only try to find common patterns among ourselves. If we all have decreasing numbers starting from a particular date, we can infer something has changed. Signups is a better indicator though, I think.

https://chaturbate.com/juliaiva/

She even has an album how to RE-Register :(

The thing she really has right is it's best to engage CB on Twitter rather than here, as no one cares about anything that happens on GFY.

But I don't have any twitter account :(
And I can't ask the models to do this, because s I know many models don't like say anything bad against cb.

I only have one or two people doing much on my stats now. Last year it was 4x as much. I thought it would be opposite. Way more signups this week, hope things get better 4 me !

We'd get yelled at by models AND their fans immediately.

I believe that this is incorrect.

If a user goes to a whitelabel and clicks into a model's room a chaturbate cookie is set on the user's computer along with the whitelabel cookies.

If a user goes to a whitelabel and does NOT click into a room then the chaturbate cookie is not set.

Since you cannot get to the model's link without clicking into the room, the chaturbate cookie will be set.




Also, many of the banners and ads that the model's are putting up do NOT show up on the whitelabel version of the site so the user cannot click them. I am not sure what criteria chaturbate is using in the whitelabel programming but I know all the model banners and ads do not show up.

So, since the link the model put there does NOT show up on the whitelabel version, the user cannot click it.

And NO, I do NOT have any custom css running in there.

Goldengodessxxx on Chaturbate:

http://www.madspiders.com/images/cb_example_1.jpg

Goldengodessxxx on Camfoxes.net (CB Whitelabel):

http://www.madspiders.com/images/cb_example_2.jpg


This is all from my research of the subjects as I have followed along with the discussions. Some of the stuff you guys are discussing are definite issues, these 2 are not (at least in my ever so humble opinion).

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I reported to cb let’s see what happens

Sarettah I always liked you because when I first arrived in this forum you gave me practical advice that I used. You may not remember, it was about using the API and make a website unique etc ...

In the present matter, I do believe that you are incorrect in saying that I am incorrect.
You make an interesting point and made the effort to use an illustration to disproof some of my points, which is not an issue for me as I wish I was wrong and I said on a few occasions: I am happy to be proven wrong.

Let me use your own material to disproof the very points you are making.


Correct, let me add this important point to what you are saying: a cookie with YOUR affiliate ID is planted against your whitelabel and a cookie with HER affiliate ID is planted against the domain chaturbate.com

Cookies are domain based. In your case, the whitelabel domain is camfoxes.net thus the cookie is planted on that domain. If it was to be planted on chaturbate.com with YOUR affiliate ID it would be a third party cookie (technique used by ad agencies) which most browsers block by default.

The cookie showed at the end of your video is not your affiliate cookie, it is a cloudflare cookie called __cfduid . Try typing exoticads in your search for cookies. So I tend to say that the video proves the claim that those links go against whitelabels owners.

https://i.imgur.com/uRUETvG.jpg

Precisely, the cookie set by the broadcaster link. Like I said SHE gets the conversion, the whitelabel owner gets screwed.

Now THAT is interesting: I know you aren't using custom css, I checked your source code out of curiosity. However would you have an explanation why the youtube video you posted here shows a banner (at 0:45 in the video)? And then a few seconds later you have a screenshot and a claim that those banners are gone.

https://i.imgur.com/3yZcGHi.jpg

So you are telling us that banners have been removed by Chaturbate by posting a video that shows a banner on your whitelabel.

Maybe the profile provider she uses has decided (and rightly so) that it was unfair (to say the least) to keep those links up. This is just speculation and a plausible explanation, not a proof. But let's not waste time with speculations try this out for yourself:

https://www.camfoxes.net/hotschneewittchen/

https://i.imgur.com/pTfPJb3.jpg

This one uses a different profile provider.

In short:
- one of the profile designer that supplies models has made a change which explains why some of the banners have disappeared.
- regardless of this change, the banners did exist so the original claim was right at a very least in its context ie: at the time it was posted.
- Chaturbate did not do anything to rid of these banners and some models still have them up
- clicking an affiliate link from your whitelabel drives your potential customer away from you (leak) and if it converts, it converts in favor of the broadcaster and the original referrer is unfairly losing his traffic.

And my usual comment: affiliate links reason to be are for driving traffic TOWARDS a sponsor, it is not designed to be used once on the site.

Oh that's a good catch! A good case of theft by inciting user reassignment.

Dude, you have to use screenshots here or noone will see what you mean :2 cents:

This one has put up a guide on her profile to steal webmasters customers:

https://i.imgur.com/hLFOqX7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8pYLzlf.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KKmvjxx.jpg

:disgust:disgust:disgust

https://twitter.com/Milarky_/status/1121219591752028166

Mila tweets what I suspected, cb probably rolled back their anti bot measures or at least part of them. Girls in Eastern European forums are cheering, they got cb back through Mila's help. Looks like Mila either does not know or does not care who she REALLY helped by putting pressure on cb.

speaking of which....

screenshots taken from a whitelabel with 2 banners with affiliate links:

https://i.imgur.com/galSwEX.jpg

(chaturbate) link: https://chaturbate.com/mila_/

Good luck with CB, bois.... I just give up..
I will still maintain my Chaturbate API based sites running, but my next ones I will look for another cam site... Maybe Livejasmin or Camsoda

Empty rooms with hundreds or thousands of "viewers" are also back on the front page...Fantastic

Good Morning. First, nothing in there was meant personal towards anybody. It was my observations.

I did NOT realize that was a cloudflare cookie. The "cf" in there is a good clue though.

The video was merely to show what I saw on cookies. I had not noticed the side banner in the video.

The images I posted are of a different model, one that I knew (because of the conversations here) had banners on her profile. I had noticed on many different models that when I went through chaturbate I would see the model banners and when I went through the white label I would not. As I stated it was not all model banners just some, it appeared to me that the sign up banners were usually gone. I do not know why.

Perhaps it is a designer decision, I do not know, I just know what I see.

There is a reason that I started my post with the words "I believe". It is because I could very well be wrong, I often am.

My apologies if you took anything about my post personally, as I said earlier, it was not meant that way.

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What I have seen is that the whitelabels have links to Chaturbate removed.

Those links go to a different site which then does a redirect back to Chaturbate. Whoever set those up was defintiely going around the system.

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Hey sarettah, no need to apologize. I think it's healthy to share our findings here, please continue.

I hope you didn't take my post in a bad way either. :)

She did it only for herself! Please don't write that she don't know about bots in own room! She pays for it or she is the owner of the one of botnets.

She used bots, she uses bots and she will use bots and she don't want that bots will be stopped!

So, I lost my hope that situation will be changed.

I think in 2 or 3 months bot wars will start. Each agency/service will try to put own model to the first spot. So welcome back laggy chat, unstable site etc... Last days was a good signal that models will not get any penalties for the bots.

Bots are necessary for cb broadcasting now, the same like camera or pc.

P.S. Right now I'm sure the second time, that someone in cb support works with the cheaters or is the owner of one botnets (tinfoil hat smile :)))).

Good luck everybody with this useless fight!

I will stop to report any rooms or models, and doing anything cb related.

Will try my traffic with other sites :(

Happy days in EE studios and bot net agencies thanks to Mila. I can hear the champagne bottles popping.

Guys, now is not the time to leave. Obviously all of that is disheartening but we have finally come to a point of awareness. For many months the situation was opaque.

Now that we know where we're at, the time has come to see what Chaturbate has to say about it and what direction they want to take.

The main issues reported here are on cb's management. Either there is a bottleneck here and the problems aren't being escalated or they are being escalated and management is backing up a strategy that is not working for us.

As far as I am concerned customer re-assignment when blatant is a straight forward warning and ban from affiliate program. I don't know the legal implications but it is no different from any other technique to steal cookies.

Then I don't know who's bright idea it was to allow affiliate links on the website but this isn't affiliate marketing. Affiliate marketing is about bringing traffic towards the system. Furthermore, the "first cookie win" rule is not helping here for reasons explained in previous posts.

drexl, problem is not only with referrals stealing, but will all this situation.

The main problem is the low quality of the site.
Bots and cheaters breaks all good on cb. Sad common models, unsatisfied members, angry webmasters. CB is looking like peace of shit now! And I don't want to spend my time for it.

If cb support doesn't care about own site, why do I have to care about it?
If cb support doesn't respect webmasters, why do I have to respect support?

Point of no return was reached a few month ago, and now without radical measures is impossible to fix problem.
But CB will do anything - right now it can be seen clearly.

So I will not spend my time for it.

IMO you should be sending some of your traffic elsewhere now. Start building up revshare on another site. Unless chaturbate announce some big changes and start banning models, it is going to just keep getting worse

terrible！

This Period is terrible！！！

So SAD!!!

Nope, produces and error message upon save.

Damn.

And I rest my case about the power of Twitter...

You are about this css code ?
I added it yesterday, seems everything working fine, tested also a minute ago.

Yep you are correct it works on my whitelabels where I have not changed the stock layout.

This,contact the chaturbate support,we need to help each other!

Hey Drexl, your explanations are always clear, precise and complete. thanks for your effort, hoping that something will to change for the penalized webmasters about this unfair behavior of the models (thay maybe forget who send spenders to their rooms)

Thank you :thumbsup

With your stupid talks about black and white lists you gave Mila THE perfect ammunition for her conspiracy tweets. Also I'm sure you pissed cb support off accusing them of cooperation and unlike Mila you don't have a public voice and a following.

this is unrelated to our problems but if you are on Twitter, beware of user : Marranazas_com

He duplicates your tweets w/ cb links and adds his affiliate code: campaign=JWf2F

He uses a custom app to do this, and has it on autopilot.

We have enough problems already :)

What an incredible coincidence. Mila's profile friend is on the top spot.

https://chaturbate.com/sweetlittleme018

(scroll down, doesn't ask for re-sign ups but plays the "support me" with an affiliate link too)

The top room went into hidden cam and viewer count crashed down as can be expected but unlike spanishcouple who had tens of thousands staring at a black screen for fourty minutes and more.

We're all getting fooled and cb seems unable to do anything anymore. They let all of this this slide much too long, now they're between a rock and a hard place.

I still haven't given hope completely but right now there are not too many things I can really build this hope upon.

hello guys, does anyone know if we can use direct deposit ACH from transferwise as payout?

https://chaturbate.com/barelylegal11/

Top place and iv yet to actually see a person. Real models must be fuming.

Is anyone pushing camsoda?. 65% revshare is insane or am i missing something?

Possible explanation (please verify):
It is revshare, not revshare lifetime. ie: you make 65% for a limited amount of lifetime (could be lifetime of your cookie) and after a few days your customer is unbound from you. He is then up for grab by another webmaster.

The house always wins.


I believe CrackRevenue has a CamSoda offer. Maybe you can ask one of them here to confirm exactly what the conditions are. Their FAQ is a bit opaque on this topic

paxum is the best payment method currently on offer