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MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniq1000 (Post 22734874)
Its really funny, in my old affiliate acc I got yesterday ower 12 new sign up but no revenue funny because normally 12 sign up I get in 2 months!

Mate I make on average 70 sign ups a day and I have made a whole lot of 6$ today.

With 15 657 users signed up...

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22733757)
Would be great if someone could make a video and show them. I have had 1 signup this period wtf

I also captured when you go to your stats page that it's sending you to the CB homepage.
Ofcourse i blurred my username.

You can download it here for 30 days and use to send the problem to CB: https://easyupload.io/o58tc5

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=GoCastaway;22734895]I also captured when you go to your stats page that it's sending you to the CB homepage.


This is happening to everybody that I know, CB should be aware of that issue.

The actual problem is models or CB themselves cheating us out of hard-earned cash.

I am making roughly 3 times less than what I was making April, May, June even though I have made 4000 new signs up in July and August

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22734913)
This is happening to everybody that I know, CB should be aware of that issue.

The actual problem is models or CB themselves cheating us out of hard-earned cash.

There are a lot of people encountering the same. Weeks ago i alrdy send a ticket with this to CB, see one of my previous posts.

I am only catching revenue from old/existing spenders, signups are almost 0 for month's.

MobileVRXXX 09-14-2020 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22734928)
There are a lot of people encountering the same. Weeks ago i alrdy send a ticket with this to CB, see one of my previous posts.

I am only catching revenue from old/existing spenders, signups are almost 0 for month's.

I suppose you have no answer at all?

You mean to say that the 2000+ signs up I am doing a month are not generating anything and on top of that models are stealing the big spenders. Even if that is the case how come earnings have dropped for a lot of people by 2-3-4 TIMES. Any ideas?

Regards

moniq1000 09-14-2020 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22735122)
I suppose you have no answer at all?

You mean to say that the 2000+ signs up I am doing a month are not generating anything and on top of that models are stealing the big spenders. Even if that is the case how come earnings have dropped for a lot of people by 2-3-4 TIMES. Any ideas?

Regards



There is a bug in CB script or cheating with intention,there is no other explication model stealing affiliates that's a bullshit !
cause some high traffic sites generate over again new member so revenue to!

GoCastaway 09-14-2020 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moniq1000 (Post 22735276)
There is a bug in CB script or cheating with intention,there is no other explication model stealing affiliates that's a bullshit !

If it's cheating with intention then it are not only the models that are stealing, then CB is shaving/cheating us too.

Speigelau 09-14-2020 11:16 PM

I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

ianmoone332000 09-15-2020 02:58 AM

Just redirected me there. Just once to the homepage but il monitor it

GoCastaway 09-15-2020 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22735363)
Just redirected me there. Just once to the homepage but il monitor it

Here it's still the same... Even when i am in and i change from date to tracking code sometimes it's going to the homepage.

Did you see my video?

drexl 09-15-2020 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Damage (Post 22734792)
Nice catch!.... her profile is now protected by password....
Why CB does not ban these MF?
Pretty sure If any afiliate start cheating their system will get a fucking ban.... Why they are so complacent with camgirls?

Thanks.

Camgirls are also victims since they are affiliates as well.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)
I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

You are right, cb pays on time, they are reliable.

We all know about 2 things that effectively impact affiliates negatively. These should be the focus of discussion:

1- some broadcasters incite users to re-signup
You only see the tip of the iceberg, what you read in the bios exists also in private chats and social media. Since everyone is now aware of this unethical trick, it would be advisable to change the system so users can't be reassigned (or make it more difficult).

2- dmca
A number of broadcasters believe that the use of chaturbate tools is an act of piracy, there should be an effort made to clarify this.

There is an article in the cb knowledgebase about copyright but it doesn't mention the right for affiliates to use promotional items. This would clarify the never ending confusion if they were to, at the very least, mention something about dmca compliance of the promotional items used by webmasters: https://support.chaturbate.com/hc/en...n-another-site



Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers

It was a combo action: disable of model outbound on whitelabels + removing of the timer for such links on chaturbate.com, the latter resulting in better conversion for broadcasters and less leads for webmasters.
I still believe that affiliate links have no place on a destination site since the purpose of affiliate marketing is to drive traffic to a site, not so to plant fish nets on the destination site but that's now established that it is a business decision, so no need to dwell on it.



On the other topic that is discussed here: I don't know why there is a suspicion about the broken redirect, I don't see any reason to believe it is used to cheat anyone or how that would achieve that.

kingtom2020 09-15-2020 02:21 PM

Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

Can every one reply here with links to Chaturbate models who are stealing and I will send them to Chaturbate.

lockept93 09-15-2020 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22735852)
Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

You don't want to hear how often this standard reply was shown in this thread ^^

Take it: Cb doesn't care about there affiliates.
I mean every other service is able to have support here for example, except cb.

U have only one power - send your traffic somewhere else

GoCastaway 09-15-2020 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingtom2020 (Post 22735852)
Support (Chaturbate)

Sep 15, 2020, 15:59 EDT
Thank you for reaching out. Broadcasters are not allowed to ask existing users to create a new account, as this takes away credit from any affiliates who send users to CB. If you are aware of any independent broadcasters requesting users to do so, please let us know their username(s) and we will take appropriate action.

...

Can every one reply here with links to Chaturbate models who are stealing and I will send them to Chaturbate.

Yep, standard response what you always get but they don't do anything with it. If they should do something Siswet19 for instance must be banned already for a long time...

MobileVRXXX 09-16-2020 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22735312)
I think you guys need to be careful with the cb cheating accusations, they've been very honest in the 7 years I've promoted them and have always paid on time. Unless you have specific proof, don't throw out blanket statements just because your revenue is down.

They disabled model outbound links on all white labels, so I feel somewhat hopeful that models can't steal customers, although I'm sure I've lost some of my whales over the years to this. At least they are listening to affiliates and trying to make things better.

Is anyone still getting the stats redirect, it hasn't happened to me in the last 8 hours and stats seem to be loading really quick, so makes me wonder if they addressed the issue after seeing this thread.

OK buddy I am promoting them from less than a year and I was happy. I was making more and more money each month sending 1500+ users a month. Tell me how from 7500$ in June and average of 200$ on other months ( per day ) In September I see this

1 - 140
2 - 120
3 - 95
4 - 270
5 - 33
6 - 8
7 - 29
8 - 44
9 - 74
10 - 39
11 - 28
12 -8

It is simply impossible

GoCastaway 09-16-2020 02:15 PM

I am curious what will happen if we place a nice big banner on all our CB promoting sites with:

Already have a Chaturbate account? Sponsor our site and make a new account HERE after you cleaned your cookies

:pimp:pimp:pimp

sarettah 09-16-2020 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22736539)
I am curious what will happen if we place a nice big banner on all our CB promoting sites with:

Already have a Chaturbate account? Sponsor our site and make a new account HERE after you cleaned your cookies

:pimp:pimp:pimp

Well, if Chaturbate saw it they would probably can your account and keep your money.

.

Speigelau 09-16-2020 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22736139)
OK buddy I am promoting them from less than a year and I was happy. I was making more and more money each month sending 1500+ users a month. Tell me how from 7500$ in June and average of 200$ on other months ( per day ) In September I see this

1 - 140
2 - 120
3 - 95
4 - 270
5 - 33
6 - 8
7 - 29
8 - 44
9 - 74
10 - 39
11 - 28
12 -8

It is simply impossible

Its definitely not impossible, the key is understanding how many unique spenders on average you have daily and how much of your daily revenue might be driven by just a few spenders. All it takes is a couple of whales to stop spending for your revenue to take a nose dive and if you don't understand the breakdown of your income then it may seem really suspicious. Do you use the stats tool mentioned frequently in this thread?

MobileVRXXX 09-17-2020 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22736626)
Its definitely not impossible, the key is understanding how many unique spenders on average you have daily and how much of your daily revenue might be driven by just a few spenders. All it takes is a couple of whales to stop spending for your revenue to take a nose dive and if you don't understand the breakdown of your income then it may seem really suspicious. Do you use the stats tool mentioned frequently in this thread?

I do even though they are unbelievably bad...

I completely understand how it works and I have at least 30 people spending daily on average. Suddenly on 5-th of September I see 2-5-3-1... you get the point.

I just don't believe 4 whales can get out at the exact same time.

And what are we going to do about the models stealing the whales?

Once again I suggest we all gather together and talk to them as a union.

Best regards

zhenyoung 09-17-2020 03:33 AM

https://i.imgur.com/OaWs414.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KTPVOFa.png



:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

zhenyoung 09-17-2020 03:35 AM

a couple of whales gone!!!

sorry my poor english,,,i can not say more...

lockept93 09-17-2020 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22736791)
I do even though they are unbelievably bad...

I completely understand how it works and I have at least 30 people spending daily on average. Suddenly on 5-th of September I see 2-5-3-1... you get the point.

I just don't believe 4 whales can get out at the exact same time.

And what are we going to do about the models stealing the whales?

Once again I suggest we all gather together and talk to them as a union.

Best regards

How do you want talk with them as union, if they even dont really talk with single persons?
Cb dont care about this, cause the stealed whales are still their whales. In the end it's buisness and not moral brotherhood.

You can cry and cry so long you want. The only way is to stop sending traffic to them, thats it.
It's a company who just look at numbers, not a gouvernement.

MobileVRXXX 09-17-2020 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22736854)
How do you want talk with them as union, if they even dont really talk with single persons?
Cb dont care about this, cause the stealed whales are still their whales. In the end it's buisness and not moral brotherhood.

You can cry and cry so long you want. The only way is to stop sending traffic to them, thats it.
It's a company who just look at numbers, not a gouvernement.

This is exactly my point. They look at numbers... They NEED new people on the website they mostly get them from us not from camgirls.

I sent around 2000-2500 new people a month to them. If we can gather 50 people like that it is 100 000 - 125 000 new subscribers per month. If those people are going to other websites it hurts their business and they will have to hear us.

I am already sending 50% of my traffic to other places but I won't be giving up when I feel I have been cheated upon.

MobileVRXXX 09-17-2020 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhenyoung (Post 22736823)
https://i.imgur.com/OaWs414.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KTPVOFa.png



:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

Pretty much the same way my stats look ( different numbers but same % drop ).

lockept93 09-17-2020 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22736903)
This is exactly my point. They look at numbers... They NEED new people on the website they mostly get them from us not from camgirls.

I sent around 2000-2500 new people a month to them. If we can gather 50 people like that it is 100 000 - 125 000 new subscribers per month. If those people are going to other websites it hurts their business and they will have to hear us.

I am already sending 50% of my traffic to other places but I won't be giving up when I feel I have been cheated upon.

Dont make the mistake and see yourself as fighter who dont give up. You just fool yourself so long as you send traffic and u dont have the answers you need/want.

Just in general.

Speigelau 09-17-2020 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22736969)
Dont make the mistake and see yourself as fighter who dont give up. You just fool yourself so long as you send traffic and u dont have the answers you need/want.

Just in general.

Seriously, leave this thread and never come back. All you do is talk negatively about CB and try and get affiliates to leave because you had a negative experience trying to sign up to the program. You don't have a long history of promoting them and simply piggy back on the negative comments. Just leave already.

Speigelau 09-17-2020 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zhenyoung (Post 22736823)
https://i.imgur.com/OaWs414.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/KTPVOFa.png



:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme:helpme

Those stats are not all that uncommon, the majority of your days are under $50 in earnings. You had a few days of very large spending and then it returned to normal, did you expect the large spender to just keep spending $1000 per day?

zhenyoung 09-17-2020 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22737213)
Those stats are not all that uncommon, the majority of your days are under $50 in earnings. You had a few days of very large spending and then it returned to normal, did you expect the large spender to just keep spending $1000 per day?

i agree! thank for youe reply!

sarettah 09-17-2020 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22737208)
Seriously, leave this thread and never come back. All you do is talk negatively about CB and try and get affiliates to leave because you had a negative experience trying to sign up to the program. You don't have a long history of promoting them and simply piggy back on the negative comments. Just leave already.

Shhhh. Everytime he gets someone to quit promoting chaturbate I get the chance to pick up a little more traffic.

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MeteoMan 09-18-2020 06:03 AM

Earnings are stable here but i noticed a signifcant drop in free regs.I'm using the Join Page and redirect to female cams link.

Am I the only one who noticed it?

TurboB 09-18-2020 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeteoMan (Post 22737462)
Earnings are stable here but i noticed a signifcant drop in free regs.I'm using the Join Page and redirect to female cams link.

Am I the only one who noticed it?

Almost double drop from Sept. 16, 2020

MeteoMan 09-18-2020 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeklinis (Post 22737464)
Almost double drop from Sept. 16, 2020

Yeah! The difference is huge!

MobileVRXXX 09-18-2020 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22737213)
Those stats are not all that uncommon, the majority of your days are under $50 in earnings. You had a few days of very large spending and then it returned to normal, did you expect the large spender to just keep spending $1000 per day?

What about mine?

I had like 150 days averaging around 160$ per day with like 10-15 days with less than 100$ and maybe 5 days max with less than 50$. September I start with 120/140/130/270 then I go 33/20/30/8/44/56/66/8/10 ...

MobileVRXXX 09-18-2020 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smeklinis (Post 22737464)
Almost double drop from Sept. 16, 2020

The drop for me is around 20% on regs. I was on 1 in 70 now 1 in 90-100 but the spending... damn that spending

Speigelau 09-18-2020 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 22737795)
What about mine?

I had like 150 days averaging around 160$ per day with like 10-15 days with less than 100$ and maybe 5 days max with less than 50$. September I start with 120/140/130/270 then I go 33/20/30/8/44/56/66/8/10 ...

I had almost identical numbers as you over the last 5 months. This coincided with the beginning of the US covid pandemic, as online usage jumped sharply. Many customers spent longer online, and thus cam spends went up also. I was thrilled with my stats jumping up about 40% during this time, but I knew as soon as the pandemic started to get under control, I was going to lose some revenue and most likely return to pre covid revenue numbers, and thats exactly what started to happen for me in late August. Before the 150 days were your average daily stats more similar to what they are now?

Using the wgrmedia stats tool, have you been tracking what users are accounting for your revenue? All it takes is a couple of frequent big spenders to stop and revenue will dip sharply. How many unique spenders would you say you get on average daily? I'd wait till the end of Sept and then compare total revenue to what you did in Feb and see how close they are.

Finley 09-18-2020 07:03 PM

Hi , i have about 15 sign up on one of my site but no any $ But yesterday had 12 signup and made $4 , why not pay for that 15 signup ?

sarettah 09-18-2020 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finley (Post 22737888)
Hi , i have about 15 sign up on one of my site but no any $ But yesterday had 12 signup and made $4 , why not pay for that 15 signup ?

It can take a while for a signup to become a buyer. You want to pile up as many signups as you can. Eventually, some of them start buying and the money starts piling up some.

For me it was a good 6 months from when I set a Chaturbate site up until I made minimum ($50) for payout. Haven't missed a pay period since then though and that has been a bit over 6 years now.

Concentrate on getting sign ups and the money will follow but it will lag behind some.

Good Luck.

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moniq1000 09-18-2020 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22737900)
It can take a while for a signup to become a buyer. You want to pile up as many signups as you can. Eventually, some of them start buying and the money starts piling up some.

For me it was a good 6 months from when I set a Chaturbate site up until I made minimum ($50) for payout. Haven't missed a pay period since then though and that has been a bit over 6 years now.

Concentrate on getting sign ups and the money will follow but it will lag behind some.

Good Luck.

.

I agre ,couse I have 7 cam sites from all sites I generate about 10 K traffic daily Im working on SEO like a crazy spend hundert of hours and I have avarage 5 new sign up evry month not day !! my new spender is from Oct 26, 2019 and my avarage earning $150 months from 2 speender from last year one my site listed with 2 KW top on google ,sometime I want to give up because too much work for nothing you need luck to !

lunastorta 09-19-2020 01:50 AM

The situation will get better? did they understand what the problem is?

drexl 09-19-2020 02:05 AM

Can someone try mery_lo's chatroom on a whitelabel: I see a rather large banner overlaying on top of the live feed.

The banner is not overlaying on the main site chaturbate.com/mery_lo

It would mean that they can potentially target whitelabels to place their ads/leaks in places that break the core functionality of the site.

GoCastaway 09-19-2020 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22738005)
Can someone try mery_lo's chatroom on a whitelabel: I see a rather large banner overlaying on top of the live feed.

The banner is not overlaying on the main site chaturbate.com/mery_lo

It would mean that they can potentially target whitelabels to place their ads/leaks in places that break the core functionality of the site.

This is on one of my whitelabels, banner is linking to her Onlyfans

https://i.imgur.com/b7En0ip.jpg

GoCastaway 09-19-2020 09:59 AM

Can someone tell me how this is possible:

Today i got a chargeback from CB of $ 166.87 The spender has spend the total of this amount in 9 times from may 22 until june 03 2020. Now almost 4 month's later i get a chargeback from all the money he has spend??? unbelievable!

Brit in Cambodia 09-19-2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22738144)
Can someone tell me how this is possible:

Today i got a chargeback from CB of $ 166.87 The spender has spend the total of this amount in 9 times from may 22 until june 03 2020. Now almost 4 month's later i get a chargeback from all the money he has spend??? unbelievable!

His wife looked at his bank account

zhenyoung 09-19-2020 04:36 PM

His parents looked at the bank account

sarettah 09-19-2020 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22738005)
Can someone try mery_lo's chatroom on a whitelabel: I see a rather large banner overlaying on top of the live feed.

The banner is not overlaying on the main site chaturbate.com/mery_lo

It would mean that they can potentially target whitelabels to place their ads/leaks in places that break the core functionality of the site.

The link is on whitelabel with a Chaturbate banner. It is also on the chaturbate main but a different icon instead of the chaturbate banner.

Not sure how to report that and get understood.

https://www.madspiders.com/images/cbmerylo.jpg

drexl 09-20-2020 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoCastaway (Post 22738054)
This is on one of my whitelabels, banner is linking to her Onlyfans

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22738456)
The link is on whitelabel with a Chaturbate banner. It is also on the chaturbate main but a different icon instead of the chaturbate banner.

Not sure how to report that and get understood.


Thanks GoCastaway & sarettah.

It looks worse on my smaller screen but there is an issue that is only happening on whitelabels and affects a core functionality (overlay on top of the live feed).

kjs 09-21-2020 05:33 PM

Most of you do not have enough users signed up to get a reliable signal as to what's going on. Focus on a better indicator.

Try this one:

Grab your last 100 values on the CSV download.
Open it in a spreadsheet
countdistinct([ user id column is here ])

This is simply the unique spenders in the last 100 transactions. It doesn't matter what the time period is. For low traffic affiliates this could be a month, for high it could be a few hours. That is the point.

When that number goes up, great job. Keep at it.
When revenue goes down and that number does not = chill out. People spent less.

Keep in mind it's an average. If it jumps around too much use the last 200, 500, etc. values in the CSV to observe a slower moving average.

harpreetxi 09-21-2020 09:50 PM

From this payout period ie: 16th September, my sign-ups have a drastic downfall. Suddenly from a specific days, before that it was almost same figure from 3-4 months.


Does anyone else face it?

MobileVRXXX 09-22-2020 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22737805)
I had almost identical numbers as you over the last 5 months. This coincided with the beginning of the US covid pandemic, as online usage jumped sharply. Many customers spent longer online, and thus cam spends went up also. I was thrilled with my stats jumping up about 40% during this time, but I knew as soon as the pandemic started to get under control, I was going to lose some revenue and most likely return to pre covid revenue numbers, and thats exactly what started to happen for me in late August. Before the 150 days were your average daily stats more similar to what they are now?

Using the wgrmedia stats tool, have you been tracking what users are accounting for your revenue? All it takes is a couple of frequent big spenders to stop and revenue will dip sharply. How many unique spenders would you say you get on average daily? I'd wait till the end of Sept and then compare total revenue to what you did in Feb and see how close they are.

Hey m8.

I would say that September looks pretty much like March but in March I had 5000 sign ups and now I have around 16 000.

The stats show that for the last 90 days I average 39 unique spenders a day.

Cheers

MobileVRXXX 09-22-2020 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harpreetxi (Post 22739707)
From this payout period ie: 16th September, my sign-ups have a drastic downfall. Suddenly from a specific days, before that it was almost same figure from 3-4 months.


Does anyone else face it?

Last 7 days I have seen better numbers. 1-15 September my average was 1 sign up on 100 clicks and now I am on like 80, got 78 sign ups yesterday.

Cheers


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