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bill_musk 05-14-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22667473)
In your opinion what is the difference between UID and UUID?
Can you confirm your example #2 shows 6 different User UID (UUID)?
Do you think Chaturbate has no way to group transactions by users as well as usernames?

I am no sure what is the difference or why they started using it.
I can confirm that it is 6 different UUID and 6 different UID. And that's the same case on my partner account. Same behavior with 4 accounts from the netherlands (tracking, Signup date, spending dates, yet no chargeback)

To me it seems that investigation time > whats in it for them. We're talking about a company that makes multi-millions dollars a day. The fact that XX whale or XX whale moved from an affiliate to another is peanut to them.

I doubt they would investigate unless it's a very big whale (>$50K spending)

magnatek 05-14-2020 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pugtato (Post 22666952)
If the cookies run out (after 30 days), wouldn't that user register under her link with her cookie?

Only if they changing the email adress.You cant sign up twice with the same email.

drexl 05-14-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 22667477)
I am no sure what is the difference or why they started using it.
I can confirm that it is 6 different UUID and 6 different UID. And that's the same case on my partner account. Same behavior with 4 accounts from the netherlands (tracking, Signup date, spending dates, yet no chargeback)

To me it seems that investigation time > whats in it for them. We're talking about a company that makes multi-millions dollars a day. The fact that XX whale or XX whale moved from an affiliate to another is peanut to them.

I doubt they would investigate unless it's a very big whale (>$50K spending)

That's interesting. Maybe that is an edge case where the user is good at privacy thus fooling the system.
Having a UID and a UUID changing for each account would seem redundant.

We'd need to test ourselves to move forward with this discussion.

bill_musk 05-14-2020 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22667663)
That's interesting. Maybe that is an edge case where the user is good at privacy thus fooling the system.
Having a UID and a UUID changing for each account would seem redundant.

We'd need to test ourselves to move forward with this discussion.

On the 230k transaction sitting in my database, there is not a single time where a UUID is associated with 2 Distinct UID. Furthermore, the example I shared from the austrian guy proved that he still has the cookie saved on his computer thats why all accounts felt under me. He was not smart, just disconnected and created new accounts. Same cookie, hence same tracker and all. But differrent UUID

drexl 05-14-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 22667690)
On the 230k transaction sitting in my database, there is not a single time where a UUID is associated with 2 Distinct UID.

This doesn't prove nor disprove the original point. Maybe there's no transactions pertaining to a broadcaster who steals customers in your db. Your data is merely a subset, I can't talk about it I don't have access to it.

Bringing up the austrian anecdote is interesting but still merely anecdotal. Furthermore there are many unknown: what if the guy used different payment methods and the UUID was based on that?

Like I said: it makes sense that there is a unique identifier per user.
I'd be interested in testing that myself if it didn't involve paying transactions.

Pugtato 05-14-2020 03:03 PM

The redirect from the stats page to the main page is annoying as hell and should not happen. Some people work on their stats while at home while there's people around.

sarettah 05-14-2020 03:16 PM

I have not seen the redirect from the stats page.

There is the situation that when you log out it returns you to the main site login page so if you do not go back to the affiliate url and login then you are on the main page.

Login at https://chaturbate.com/auth/login/?n...iliates/stats/

When you logout you are at https://chaturbate.com/auth/login/ which if you use for login takes you to the main page.

But, that has always been that way so I don't think that is what you are talking about.

.

Speigelau 05-14-2020 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 22667765)
I have not seen the redirect from the stats page.

There is the situation that when you log out it returns you to the main site login page so if you do not go back to the affiliate url and login then you are on the main page.

Login at https://chaturbate.com/auth/login/?n...iliates/stats/

When you logout you are at https://chaturbate.com/auth/login/ which if you use for login takes you to the main page.

But, that has always been that way so I don't think that is what you are talking about.

.

Yeah, that's not what's happening. I hit the stats page dozens of times a day, every day. The last 3 or 4 days, after putting in my username/pass in the stats page, when I click "submit", instead of showing my stats, it will redirect me to the main cam page. When I go back to the stats page and try to enter again, it will work. It only does this every once every 4th or 5th attempt, but its gotten really annoying. I generally do not logout of the stats after viewing them, I simply move on to a different site or let the stats page time out.

MattGFY 05-14-2020 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugtato (Post 22667757)
The redirect from the stats page to the main page is annoying as hell and should not happen. Some people work on their stats while at home while there's people around.

I'm getting the same redirect as you. Like you said it's pretty annoying because most of the time my son is around me..

askjoe 05-15-2020 12:34 AM

I´m searching for an option to use chaturbate XML feed for embeds for my whitelabel.
I´m running wl on subdomain and want to use the xml feed for embeds.
Doable ? If yes, how ?

hypnosissy 05-15-2020 11:11 AM

Hello, I am sending 50-100 uniques per day and nobody even getting account on Chaturbate.
I am sending with a href link. What am I doing wrong? Maybe direct link is not best tool to monetize it?

j3rkules 05-15-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hypnosissy (Post 22668259)
Hello, I am sending 50-100 uniques per day and nobody even getting account on Chaturbate.
I am sending with a href link. What am I doing wrong? Maybe direct link is not best tool to monetize it?

What is your niche and traffic source?

MattGFY 05-15-2020 09:05 PM

Had the most profitable 2 week pay period on Chaturbate and Stripcash. That's after losing 4,000 visitors a day from that Google update.:pimp

heiko0o 05-15-2020 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22668570)
Had the most profitable 2 week pay period on Chaturbate and Stripcash. That's after losing 4,000 visitors a day from that Google update.:pimp

That's great to hear!

For me, it was the worst period ever LOL - I hope i never have to endure such a terrible period again

GoCastaway 05-16-2020 12:03 AM

Just looked for the first time today to my stats on CB (again with wrong redirects that's still not fixed) and i noticed that it's still period may 1-15 but the daily payout request and total amount of earnings are gone. Here it's 16 mins before the period ends, never seen that before...

https://imgur.com/Wqt9A1Q

phman79 05-17-2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22667835)
I'm getting the same redirect as you. Like you said it's pretty annoying because most of the time my son is around me..

Me too and I can relate I wanna check those stats and tittys up in my face, it wouldn't be bad if a 12 year old foster son didn't sneak up on me

PornGrowsOnTrees 05-17-2020 08:32 PM

Last period was pretty bad overall.

This period seems to be starting off better. Trying to get some new whales on my site since my main spender disappeared after 3 years.

Started few new sites at the start of this coronavirus. Working like a maniac to add new content and promote it, to take advantage of the situation. Hope we all do great.

I'm checking out Chaturbate Statistics Enhancer - Top 10 are doing good. Would be nice to reach 5k+ a month off CB.

MattGFY 05-17-2020 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22669633)
Last period was pretty bad overall.

I'm checking out Chaturbate Statistics Enhancer - Top 10 are doing good. Would be nice to reach 5k+ a month off CB.

The beginning of this cornavirus shit was looking gloom and doom. Now people are spending like crazy on my account. I hit 7,500 in earnings the last 30 days.

Maybe some of my luck will rub off on you. I wish you good luck!
:thumbsup

PornGrowsOnTrees 05-17-2020 11:40 PM

Wow good work bro! #motivation @MattGFY

How many spenders do you have total? And how many websites do you run?

I'm trying to build as many possible sites since human behavior and social interaction will forever be changed to a certain % even after the entire world reopens leading to more people seeking out live entertainment. This is an extinction level even for many companies and a huge internet boom for us and cams.

I see increase of people broadcasting on my whitelabel right now too ;-)

Speigelau 05-18-2020 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22669674)
The beginning of this cornavirus shit was looking gloom and doom. Now people are spending like crazy on my account. I hit 7,500 in earnings the last 30 days.

Maybe some of my luck will rub off on you. I wish you good luck!
:thumbsup

That's been my experience also. Mid March when quarantaining began, I noticed an uptick on spending and it kept increasing as the lockdown continued. Matt, based on those earnings, are you #1 on the top ten affiliates on the CB Stats Enhancer site? I'm usually right around #5.

ianmoone332000 05-18-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22669808)
That's been my experience also. Mid March when quarantaining began, I noticed an uptick on spending and it kept increasing as the lockdown continued. Matt, based on those earnings, are you #1 on the top ten affiliates on the CB Stats Enhancer site? I'm usually right around #5.

Where is this site?. Cant find it

MattGFY 05-18-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22669685)
Wow good work bro! #motivation @MattGFY
How many spenders do you have total? And how many websites do you run?

I just now put my info in the enhancer, and found out I have had 1267 spenders, and 263 thirty day active spenders. I run 8 websites but all my income comes from one website.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22669808)
Matt, based on those earnings, are you #1 on the top ten affiliates on the CB Stats Enhancer site? I'm usually right around #5.

I just now put my info in the enhancer for the 1st time, and yes I'm the new #1 affiliate on the list. They are low on my income though for some reason. The last 30 days I made $7,500.
https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXbv.jpg

zero4 05-18-2020 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22670018)
I just now put my info in the enhancer, and found out I have had 1267 spenders, and 263 thirty day active spenders. I run 8 websites but all my income comes from one website.




I just now put my info in the enhancer for the 1st time, and yes I'm the new #1 affiliate on the list. They are low on my income though for some reason. The last 30 days I made $7,500.
https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXbv.jpg

Insane stats!
Can i ask how many signups you have?

MattGFY 05-18-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zero4 (Post 22670052)
Insane stats!
Can i ask how many signups you have?

I have 26,477 free registrations and only 23 broadcasters.

PornGrowsOnTrees 05-18-2020 03:22 PM

Nice MattGFY !! Congrats!! How many hits your #1 site get? How many registrations are you getting per day aprox? I hope I can reach that one day. My sites are gaining daily with increase of SEO.

MattGFY 05-18-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22670091)
Nice MattGFY !! Congrats!! How many hits your #1 site get? How many registrations are you getting per day aprox? I hope I can reach that one day. My sites are gaining daily with increase of SEO.

Thank You. Google analytics says I'm only getting around 10,000 unique visitors a day. But, somehow Chaturbate figured I was getting around 22,000 unique hits. After that last Google update Chaturbate has me at around 16,000 unique hits. I'm averaging about 40 free sign ups per day.

Speigelau 05-18-2020 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22670018)
I just now put my info in the enhancer, and found out I have had 1267 spenders, and 263 thirty day active spenders. I run 8 websites but all my income comes from one website.




I just now put my info in the enhancer for the 1st time, and yes I'm the new #1 affiliate on the list. They are low on my income though for some reason. The last 30 days I made $7,500.
https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXbv.jpg

Very nice, you'll have fun with the enhanced stats especially with your numbers.

PornGrowsOnTrees 05-18-2020 10:06 PM

wo0t! I think some of the good luck vibes MattGFY sent me came true. New golden nugget customer today ;-) ty!

bill_musk 05-18-2020 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ianmoone332000 (Post 22670001)
Where is this site?. Cant find it

https://wgrmedia.com/chaturbate/

bill_musk 05-18-2020 11:10 PM

So I got an answer from Chaturbate about this UUID and UID thing.

UUID has been designed to help with the postback tool https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/devkit/postback/ . Thats it.

pornuploader 05-19-2020 03:29 PM

They haven't sent my bitcoin payment yet, I got worried because they used to pay within two days.

bill_musk 05-19-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornuploader (Post 22670660)
They haven't sent my bitcoin payment yet, I got worried because they used to pay within two days.

All received on my end. Have u met with the minimum treeshold?

pornuploader 05-19-2020 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 22670779)
All received on my end. Have u met with the minimum treeshold?

Yeah, Last period i earned way more than my minimum pay out
Bitcoin market has a lot fluctuation therefor they usually pay as fast as they could, It's the first time it's delayed more than two days

drexl 05-20-2020 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 22670285)
So I got an answer from Chaturbate about this UUID and UID thing.

UUID has been designed to help with the postback tool https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/devkit/postback/ . Thats it.

Thanks for sharing :thumbsup

The explanation seems incomplete: did they tell you if it was unique per user as per the name would suggest?

In any case it seems unlikely that they can't group by users (vs by usernames).

askjoe 05-20-2020 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22670105)
I'm averaging about 40 free sign ups per day.

Hi Matt
i´m at around 10/day but i´m using iframe embed api and it´s tracking only 1$ per doi.
Do you know if i can use iframe embed api on revshare ?

drexl 05-20-2020 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22670876)
Hi Matt
i´m at around 10/day but i´m using iframe embed api and it´s tracking only 1$ per doi.
Do you know if i can use iframe embed api on revshare ?

Unless I misunderstood:

One of the fields the API is returning is "iframe_embed_revshare".

Use it instead of "iframe_embed".

bill_musk 05-20-2020 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22670870)
Thanks for sharing :thumbsup

The explanation seems incomplete: did they tell you if it was unique per user as per the name would suggest?

In any case it seems unlikely that they can't group by users (vs by usernames).

From a very reliable source, 6 months ago they did not group users nor had the need to. I don't see why they could today considering they do not vcare so much about affiliates.

hypnosissy 05-20-2020 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j3rkules (Post 22668301)
What is your niche and traffic source?

Femdom and dirty talk.
Most of the traffic is from SE.

pencocaste 05-20-2020 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattGFY (Post 22670018)
I just now put my info in the enhancer, and found out I have had 1267 spenders, and 263 thirty day active spenders. I run 8 websites but all my income comes from one website.




I just now put my info in the enhancer for the 1st time, and yes I'm the new #1 affiliate on the list. They are low on my income though for some reason. The last 30 days I made $7,500.
https://i.imgur.com/2tbNXbv.jpg

Hi Matt,

What amazing results, hope some day reach that numbers. Can I ask you: What country are your affiliates from?

cordoba 05-21-2020 09:16 AM

Can I ask why Chaturbate is the most popular webcam affiliate program?

Not saying they aren't, but maybe I'm missing something.

$1 for a free registration, when AWE gives you $150 per paid signup, and $210 if you send 3 signups in a fortnight etc.

And wouldn't promoting a 'free' site like Chaturbate actually cost you signups to other cam sponsors that give you $210 PPS etc?

I guess it's best for poor quality traffic, or non targeted cam traffic?

The guy above posting that he earned $4,XXX in a month and that makes him the highest paid Chaturbate affiliate in the world? Can that be right? I mean I remember when AWE used to show the top list of earning affiliates and if I'm not mistaken the entire top ten were earning six figures every pay period.

cybermike 05-21-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22671464)
Can I ask why Chaturbate is the most popular webcam affiliate program?

Not saying they aren't, but maybe I'm missing something.

$1 for a free registration, when AWE gives you $150 per paid signup, and $210 if you send 3 signups in a fortnight etc.

And wouldn't promoting a 'free' site like Chaturbate actually cost you signups to other cam sponsors that give you $210 PPS etc?

I guess it's best for poor quality traffic, or non targeted cam traffic?

The guy above posting that he earned $4,XXX in a month and that makes him the highest paid Chaturbate affiliate in the world? Can that be right? I mean I remember when AWE used to show the top list of earning affiliates and if I'm not mistaken the entire top ten were earning six figures every pay period.

The $1 per email is for people who want money upfront I guess.. always do revshare. And no it doesn't make him the highest paid affiliate.. just currently of the batch of people willing to use this 3rd party stats tool.

drexl 05-21-2020 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22671464)
Can I ask why Chaturbate is the most popular webcam affiliate program?

Not saying they aren't, but maybe I'm missing something.

$1 for a free registration, when AWE gives you $150 per paid signup, and $210 if you send 3 signups in a fortnight etc.

And wouldn't promoting a 'free' site like Chaturbate actually cost you signups to other cam sponsors that give you $210 PPS etc?


You are comparing different types of offers.

Chaturbate $1 is a PPL offer.
$150 and $210 from others are PPS offers.

The latter requires that the customer who signed up also makes a purchase. The former, you get $1 for a free registration irrespective of customer's behavior.

MattGFY 05-21-2020 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pencocaste (Post 22671220)
Hi Matt,
What amazing results, hope some day reach that numbers. Can I ask you: What country are your affiliates from?

My top 6 customers are from the United States. The top countries are USA, Germany, United Kingdom, Canada, France, Italy, Australia, Netherlands, Belgium, and New Zealand in that order.

MattGFY 05-21-2020 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 22671464)
The guy above posting that he earned $4,XXX in a month and that makes him the highest paid Chaturbate affiliate in the world?.

That was just how much I had made so far this month. I'm making around $7500 a month. Like cybermike said, I'm just the top affiliate using that third party statistic enhancer. I'm no where even close to the top affiliate at Chaturbate.

MattGFY 05-21-2020 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by askjoe (Post 22670876)
Hi Matt
i´m at around 10/day but i´m using iframe embed api and it´s tracking only 1$ per doi.
Do you know if i can use iframe embed api on revshare ?

Yes, I'm using their api to embed iframes on revshare. Most of my sales have actually came from the embeds and not my whitelabel.

heiko0o 05-21-2020 10:43 PM

Hmm, currently i've been experiencing a little bit with Whitelabel options on Chaturbate and i was wondering if there is a way to send a user straight to the Join Page on your Whitelabel. I know that these 2 Parameters work

www. whitelabelname .com/accounts/register/ & Parameter ?join_overlay=1

But how can i implement this when they only type in the regular domain without the register extension or the parameter. Anybody got an idea?

I even asked CB about this and this was there response:

"Thank you for your email. For new users you can use the parameter ?join_overlay=1 with your Whitelabel to have the signup overlay display when accessing your Whitelabel. You may also use the join link codes with your Whitelabel as well. This can be found by going to . "

I am not sure what they mean by "going to ."

If anybody can help me, i would appreciate it! Maybe something in the Domain Settings?

bill_musk 05-21-2020 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22671748)
Hmm, currently i've been experiencing a little bit with Whitelabel options on Chaturbate and i was wondering if there is a way to send a user straight to the Join Page on your Whitelabel. I know that these 2 Parameters work

www. whitelabelname .com/accounts/register/ & Parameter ?join_overlay=1

But how can i implement this when they only type in the regular domain without the register extension or the parameter. Anybody got an idea?

I even asked CB about this and this was there response:

"Thank you for your email. For new users you can use the parameter ?join_overlay=1 with your Whitelabel to have the signup overlay display when accessing your Whitelabel. You may also use the join link codes with your Whitelabel as well. This can be found by going to . "

I am not sure what they mean by "going to ."

If anybody can help me, i would appreciate it! Maybe something in the Domain Settings?

Staright to the join page? You should set up 2 different subdomain.
I.E. : http://www.yourwhitelabel.com + *.yourwhitelabel.com => redirect to cam.yourwhitelabel.com/joinpage

That's what I would do

drexl 05-22-2020 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22671748)

I am not sure what they mean by "going to ."

My guess is they wanted to add the link codes page to that sentence.
It should read "going to https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/linkcodes/"

There are many tours that will send guest users to the join page.

Example with tour 3Mc9: https: //yourwhitelabel.com/in/?track=default&tour=3Mc9&campaign=xxxx&redirect_to _room=-welcomepage-

.

heiko0o 05-22-2020 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22671785)
My guess is they wanted to add the link codes page to that sentence.
It should read "going to https://chaturbate.com/affiliates/linkcodes/"

There are many tours that will send guest users to the join page.

Example with tour 3Mc9: https: //yourwhitelabel.com/in/?track=default&tour=3Mc9&campaign=xxxx&redirect_to _room=-welcomepage-

.

Okay got that. But what i initially wanna do is the following

->User types in Whitelabel Domain Name -> User gets directly sent to the WL join page.

I am pretty sure there are ways to do this in the Domain Settings but i haven't figured it out yet

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill_musk (Post 22671755)
Staright to the join page? You should set up 2 different subdomain.
I.E. : http://www.yourwhitelabel.com + *.yourwhitelabel.com => redirect to cam.yourwhitelabel.com/joinpage

That's what I would do

I think i tried that already (although i am not sure if i did the exact same thing). I set up the redirect but when it redirected it always showed a DNS Error. I am not quite sure which one it was but i am gonna try your suggestion again.

cordoba 05-22-2020 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drexl (Post 22671471)
You are comparing different types of offers.

Chaturbate $1 is a PPL offer.
$150 and $210 from others are PPS offers.

The latter requires that the customer who signed up also makes a purchase. The former, you get $1 for a free registration irrespective of customer's behavior.

Yes, I realize that of course. I just don't see how it would work out to be more profitable unless you're sending people who are just desperate for free chat and are not likely to pay any money (to get a pps for you).

When I was promoting webcams my conversion rate for LiveJasmin was lower than 1:150. Even if you're getting 1:10 free registrations to uniques, you'd only need 1:1500 for a PPS to match it (assuming only $150 a sale).

Not to mention revshare is even more profitable. I largely stopped promoting webcam over 5 years ago, but I have two whales who are still earning me around $200 a month. I must have made over $10,000 each for those two sales, yet Chaturbate would have given me $2.


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