Chicago shootings up nearly 200 percent in 2016

[Horatio Caine]

CHICAGO -- On average, one person has been shot every three hours in Chicago since January 1st.

Just two hours into the New Year, 24-year-old Deandre Holiday was gunned down after a fight at a New Year's Eve party spilled into the street. He's Chicago's first homicide of what's so far been a bloody 2016.

Since January 1st, 110 people have been shot -- compared to 37 during the same time last year. That's a nearly 200 percent increase.

Chicago shootings up nearly 200 percent in 2016 - CBS News




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I blame it on this guy - Deandre Lipschitz

[poncabare]

enact more gun laws already

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by poncabare

enact more gun laws already

Yep thats going to fix the gun crimes just like it did in Mexico.

[Harmon]

Guess the direction?

North, South, East or West?

I'm going with South... Southside. Home of the plastic, knockoff Vuitton purse.

[bronco67]

Chicago is the new conservative argument for everything related to the gun debate.

"Maybe we should close the gun show loop hole".

"Blah, blah blah Chicago!!!" I love their ability address the nuance of the argument by using one city's crime stats as their defense for not being inconvenienced when buying a gun.

Horatio, how many racist threads do you make in a day?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Chicago is the new conservative argument for everything related to the gun debate.

The murder capital of the USA has some of the strictest gun laws in the USA. Do obvious facts bother you that much?

I could care less if guns were banned. But you can't exactly argue that gun laws are the root problem either.

[blackmonsters]

All this could be fixed if more cops would start shooting people for seat belt violations.
We've got to nip it in the bud.

[JuicyBunny]

Come on guys lets make it 2 hours.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Chicago is the new conservative argument for everything related to the gun debate.

Those pesky God damn facts! Why do conservatives demand to use facts when debating policy? It's fucking annoying, right?!?!? Liberals are never wrong, so why even bother with facts at all?

[Sly]

Chicago is a sore subject for Democrats: Mayor of Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chicago is one of my favorite cities in the country. It is time to face facts though. The South and West are cesspools. Denying this only perpetuates the cycle.

[L-Pink]

Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun ordinances in the country. Gun stores are banned. There is a ban on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Plus last time I checked shooting someone was also illegal.

And yet guns like anything illegal are readily available on the streets. Where there is a demand there will be a supply.

.

[galleryseek]

Hey, let's make it more difficult to get guns, because that totally works for drugs.


^-Libertard logic.

When you understand basic economics, such as supply and demand, you'll realize it's only a matter of whether or not you want legitmate businesses supplying what's in demand, or Lil Rae Rae, Uncle Tony and Pablo.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun ordinances in the country. Gun stores are banned. There is a ban on both assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Plus last time I checked shooting someone was also illegal.

And yet guns like anything illegal are readily available on the streets. Where there is a demand there will be a supply.

.

Yea, all these places just sell squirt guns.

Gun Shops near Chicago, IL in Illinois

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

Hey, let's make it more difficult to get guns, because that totally works for drugs.


^-Libertard logic.

When a 15 year old is able to grow a gun in his closet then you'll have a valid argument.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

When a 15 year old is able to grow a gun in his closet then you'll have a valid argument.

And what percentage of teens smoking Marijuana are fucking growing it?

Prohibition, does, not, work.


Oh and PS, they're on their way to 3d printing guns so...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Yea, all these places just sell squirt guns.

Gun Shops near Chicago, IL in Illinois

No, even your link states "NEAR" Chicago. The neighboring counties sell guns. The city of Chicago, where the problem is, does not allow the sale of guns. The entity state has very restrictive gun laws.

The important fact is, laws are easily subverted.

.

[NatalieK]

how disturbing is this news

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

When a 15 year old is able to grow a gun in his closet then you'll have a valid argument.

When you have a 15 year old not trying to get a gun, you have 2 parents.

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Chicago is the new conservative argument for everything related to the gun debate.

"Maybe we should close the gun show loop hole".

"Blah, blah blah Chicago!!!" I love their ability address the nuance of the argument by using one city's crime stats as their defense for not being inconvenienced when buying a gun.

Horatio, how many racist threads do you make in a day?

Pointing out the epidemic of gun violence in Chicago is "racist"?

[kkkkkk]

That's gangland warfare for you

[HeadPimp]

No one dares breach the subject of black on black crime. It would be political suicide, plus groups like #BlackLivesMatter would rather blame white people for the problems in their communities.

[Joe Obenberger]

I'm writing this note from my office at 115 South LaSalle in Chicago. I'm about to walk a block down a dark alley in order to get to the garage where I park my car.

I will not be walking without defense. I'm an Illinois Concealed Carry license holder. More than that, I'm certified by the State Police as a concealed carry instructor and an NRA certified pistol instructor. Outside representation of adult content producers, I'm deeply involved in a series of lawsuits aimed at the repressive laws that limit citizens from defensive carry. It takes a special permit called a FOID Card to own or acquire guns or ammo, and about 1.5 million Illinoisans have that card. But it's not good enough to carry concealed. For that, a $200 fee, sixteen hours of instruction, and the publication of your personal information to all of of the LE agencies in the state, in case any of them want to object for any reason they want, is all necessary, with delays now past six months. When I stared these lawsuits, the Board that decides did not even notify an applicant about an objection until after the Board had considered it and affirmed it, denying your license. As a result of all this intrigue against gun rights, only about 150,000 Illinoisans statewide have been able to secure a concealed carry card. Since our lawsuits started, much has changed, but one still never gets to see any evidence submitted to support an objection while it's pending before the board. No chance to rebut evidence that you can't see. It's unconstitutional as hell. The fight is arduous, and we're now in the Seventh Circuit challenging dismissals of cases in which the District Court judges have tapdanced their way around this uncomfortable truth. I like fighting for underdogs, and the establishment and machine in Chicago are so fiercely against the Second Amendment and the right of armed self-defense that there is no doubt which side the underdog is!

Why is gun violence up here? It's not associated with the weather recently, which has been colder than average. Warm weather is associated with armed violence in the cities. Part of the reason may be a climate of violence among the minorities, angry with more and more evidence of lawless police murdering young black and hispanic youth, with city hall and the prosecutors covering it up. But that's a weak reason to explain Black on Black crime, which is a huge, overwhelming component of gun violence here. What encourages crime everywhere is the belief of criminals that they can get away with it. I can't prove it, but I believe that the practical difficulties for honest, ordinary citizens in getting the right to carry defensive arms has been part of that and encourages armed violence by criminals. All of that is part of the answer. The remaining part is likely to be related to turf wars over drug territory. It's hard to get honest information about that because the press goes far out of its way to not report accurate information about gang activity. The thought is that identifying gangs and their conflicts adds prestige to these criminal organizations and encourages them, but that policy leaves the public out of the loop in understanding these spikes in crime.

That's the best I can do.

[kkkkkk]

Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

I'm writing this note from my office at 115 South LaSalle in Chicago. I'm about to walk a block down a dark alley in order to get to the garage where I park my car.

I will not be walking without defense. I'm an Illinois Concealed Carry license holder. More than that, I'm certified by the State Police as a concealed carry instructor and an NRA certified pistol instructor. Outside representation of adult content producers, I'm deeply involved in a series of lawsuits aimed at the repressive laws that limit citizens from defensive carry. It takes a special permit called a FOID Card to own or acquire guns or ammo, and about 1.5 million Illinoisans have that card. But it's not good enough to carry concealed. For that, a $200 fee, sixteen hours of instruction, and the publication of your personal information to all of of the LE agencies in the state, in case any of them want to object for any reason they want, is all necessary, with delays now past six months. When I stared these lawsuits, the Board that decides did not even notify an applicant about an objection until after the Board had considered it and affirmed it, denying your license. As a result of all this intrigue against gun rights, only about 150,000 Illinoisans statewide have been able to secure a concealed carry card. Since our lawsuits started, much has changed, but one still never gets to see any evidence submitted to support an objection while it's pending before the board. No chance to rebut evidence that you can't see. It's unconstitutional as hell. The fight is arduous, and we're now in the Seventh Circuit challenging dismissals of cases in which the District Court judges have tapdanced their way around this uncomfortable truth. I like fighting for underdogs, and the establishment and machine in Chicago are so fiercely against the Second Amendment and the right of armed self-defense that there is no doubt which side the underdog is!

Why is gun violence up here? It's not associated with the weather recently, which has been colder than average. Warm weather is associated with armed violence in the cities. Part of the reason may be a climate of violence among the minorities, angry with more and more evidence of lawless police murdering young black and hispanic youth, with city hall and the prosecutors covering it up. But that's a weak reason to explain Black on Black crime, which is a huge, overwhelming component of gun violence here. What encourages crime everywhere is the belief of criminals that they can get away with it. I can't prove it, but I believe that the practical difficulties for honest, ordinary citizens in getting the right to carry defensive arms has been part of that and encourages armed violence by criminals. All of that is part of the answer. The remaining part is likely to be related to turf wars over drug territory. It's hard to get honest information about that because the press goes far out of its way to not report accurate information about gang activity. The thought is that identifying gangs and their conflicts adds prestige to these criminal organizations and encourages them, but that policy leaves the public out of the loop in understanding these spikes in crime.

That's the best I can do.

At least the capacity for defense is acknowledged and codified as a fundamental right. Albeit as you rightfully point out, a heavily contested one. Here, it is your fists or the state. It could be worse. Interesting read for sure.

[kkkkkk]

[ErectMedia]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Guess the direction?

North, South, East or West?

I'm going with South... Southside. Home of the plastic, knockoff Vuitton purse.

South & West

Originally Posted by Sly

Chicago is one of my favorite cities in the country. It is time to face facts though. The South and West are cesspools. Denying this only perpetuates the cycle.

Pizza's on me

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by HeadPimp

No one dares breach the subject of black on black crime. It would be political suicide, plus groups like #BlackLivesMatter would rather blame white people for the problems in their communities.

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

[brassmonkey]

the drug trade has too many chiefs in the south side. gangsta disciples need to put that foot down

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

What are you babbling about?

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

you know who owns the media

[Frank]

Need more guns..

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

You don't ant to compare numbers fool.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

No one dares talk about white on white rape either when they are rounding up Arabs or blacks to blame.

White rape is more common than black or arab rape per capita?

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you know who owns the media

Anti white agenda for the most part so your argument is not valid.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by escorpio

Pointing out the epidemic of gun violence in Chicago is "racist"?

Libbies think this way - anything that shows a black person in a negative way is racist.