Are exoclick serving adexpansion and trafficjunky ads?

[mrmister]

My exoclick zones, when hovered over, show tracker.adexpansion ads and trafficjunky ones, some show exoclick ones. Are these companies buying ads from exoclick or have I been hacked?

Checked over my HTML twice now

[itme64]

You are not hacked at all

[Google Expert]

fucked up if true, OP

[mrmister]

Originally Posted by itme64

You are not hacked at all

is there another reason?

[marktruman]

interesting, is there a reason for this?

[Mediamix]

They all buy traffic from each other...

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

They all buy traffic from each other...

^^

This, we sell traffic to Exo and buy traffic from Exo, it's just going through our ad code over to them. Pretty standard stuff.

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by marktruman

interesting, is there a reason for this?

Monetizing as many impressions as possible.

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

^^

This, we sell traffic to Exo and buy traffic from Exo, it's just going through our ad code over to them. Pretty standard stuff.

It is indeed pretty standard, but I understand that it seems weird if you don't know that.
OP is not wrong for asking in my opinion.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

It is indeed pretty standard, but I understand that it seems weird if you don't know that.
OP is not wrong for asking in my opinion.

No such thing as a stupid question ?

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by JFK

No such thing as a stupid question ?

Only stupid people...

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by mrmister

My exoclick zones, when hovered over, show tracker.adexpansion ads and trafficjunky ones, some show exoclick ones. Are these companies buying ads from exoclick or have I been hacked?

Checked over my HTML twice now

People are really still buying traffic from crooked ass online vendors?

OMG!?? What year is this??

They are all fucking crooks. You're buying blanks. Numbers on a screen. You might be getting about 10% real traffic and the rest is all bots.

Don't take my word, just go do some research about the mass epidemic of online traffic fraud.

There is no Federal regulation and these online crooks have it down to a science. I don't know anybody that buys online traffic anymore, banners, pop ups, you name it.

Just ask yourself this one basic question:

IF the traffic was real and it generated sales, why would they sell it?

Years ago the traffic brokers sold real traffic and you could make sales from it, but now that porn is free, repeat, PORN IS FREE, the traffic broker's market has crashed. The only way to make a profit is by selling bot clicks. Exo, Juicy, TJ, all of them are stuffed full of sources that supply bot traffic, and if you call the broker on it, you will get this same response: "Some of our suppliers and traffic sources have sent us bot traffic, but we quickly put an end to it when we find out. If you get any bot traffic, let us know so we can act appropriately." In other words, we will sell you bot traffic until you find out about it, then we correct the problem and then sell you more. But when you are not looking at your IP stats, more bot traffic will flow.

They have the very best software and programmers that can shut down their operation or change all the stats instantly before a subpoena ever hits the front door. Online traffic brokers are the ultimate scam artists the internet has ever seen.

[adultmobile]

Deals between the ad networks. Even Microsoft do deals with Apple.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

People are really still buying traffic from crooked ass online vendors?

OMG!?? What year is this??

They are all fucking crooks. You're buying blanks. Numbers on a screen. You might be getting about 10% real traffic and the rest is all bots.

Don't take my word, just go do some research about the mass epidemic of online traffic fraud.

There is no Federal regulation and these online crooks have it down to a science. I don't know anybody that buys online traffic anymore, banners, pop ups, you name it.

Just ask yourself this one basic question:

IF the traffic was real and it generated sales, why would they sell it?

Years ago the traffic brokers sold real traffic and you could make sales from it, but now that porn is free, repeat, PORN IS FREE, the traffic broker's market has crashed. The only way to make a profit is by selling bot clicks. Exo, Juicy, TJ, all of them are stuffed full of sources that supply bot traffic, and if you call the broker on it, you will get this same response: "Some of our suppliers and traffic sources have sent us bot traffic, but we quickly put an end to it when we find out. If you get any bot traffic, let us know so we can act appropriately." In other words, we will sell you bot traffic until you find out about it, then we correct the problem and then sell you more. But when you are not looking at your IP stats, more bot traffic will flow.

They have the very best software and programmers that can shut down their operation or change all the stats instantly before a subpoena ever hits the front door. Online traffic brokers are the ultimate scam artists the internet has ever seen.

This.

The last couple of years you would have to be comatose to not see all the new traffic companies popping up. They all claim to have billions of impressions to sell. Tier 1 grade A traffic.

Impressions not clicks.......

[Ross]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

People are really still buying traffic from crooked ass online vendors?

OMG!?? What year is this??

They are all fucking crooks. You're buying blanks. Numbers on a screen. You might be getting about 10% real traffic and the rest is all bots.

Don't take my word, just go do some research about the mass epidemic of online traffic fraud.

There is no Federal regulation and these online crooks have it down to a science. I don't know anybody that buys online traffic anymore, banners, pop ups, you name it.

Just ask yourself this one basic question:

IF the traffic was real and it generated sales, why would they sell it?

Years ago the traffic brokers sold real traffic and you could make sales from it, but now that porn is free, repeat, PORN IS FREE, the traffic broker's market has crashed. The only way to make a profit is by selling bot clicks. Exo, Juicy, TJ, all of them are stuffed full of sources that supply bot traffic, and if you call the broker on it, you will get this same response: "Some of our suppliers and traffic sources have sent us bot traffic, but we quickly put an end to it when we find out. If you get any bot traffic, let us know so we can act appropriately." In other words, we will sell you bot traffic until you find out about it, then we correct the problem and then sell you more. But when you are not looking at your IP stats, more bot traffic will flow.

They have the very best software and programmers that can shut down their operation or change all the stats instantly before a subpoena ever hits the front door. Online traffic brokers are the ultimate scam artists the internet has ever seen.

So essentially what you are saying is everyone is losing money but continuing to buy advertising? I mean it is the only reason ad networks are getting more popular and growing, right? Clients like us that much they just accept they will lose money but continue buying because we buy them beers or dinner at shows?

Back in the real world, ad networks provide a fantastic service and allow people with any sized budget to start their own business from home. I personally have saw guys go from almost dead broke to making $50,000 profit per month, sometimes more. Are you going to take a shitty paysite from 2004 and make 100 sales a day buying traffic from me or exoclick or adxpansion? Probably not. If you adapt to what is selling today and get creative with your marketing, can you make $1,000 per day profit? Absolutely.

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by Ross

So essentially what you are saying is everyone is losing money but continuing to buy advertising? I mean it is the only reason ad networks are getting more popular and growing, right? Clients like us that much they just accept they will lose money but continue buying because we buy them beers or dinner at shows?

Back in the real world, ad networks provide a fantastic service and allow people with any sized budget to start their own business from home. I personally have saw guys go from almost dead broke to making $50,000 profit per month, sometimes more. Are you going to take a shitty paysite from 2004 and make 100 sales a day buying traffic from me or exoclick or adxpansion? Probably not. If you adapt to what is selling today and get creative with your marketing, can you make $1,000 per day profit? Absolutely.

Only people that don't know shit are complaining about traffic brokers.. It's always the people that don't understand how to filter their traffic and people that advertise for 5 dollars and didn't see conversions. I love some traffic brokers and make good money with them. As a publisher and advertiser....

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

[xXXtesy10]

fuck exoclick in the ass

[olivierx]

this is nothing new... all the ads network are exchanging traffic, for exemple, if you are a advertiser who pay 5$ CPM on adxpansion a traffic broker who is working with exoclick may buy from exoclick to send to you since exoclick would sell only 4$ CPM. he would make 1$ CPM profit.

I remember buying exoclick traffic and while checking the sources it would come from place like traffic junky, ero-advertising, adxpansion...

Highest the CPM highest the amount of traffic sites may send traffic even if buying only from one.

[bns666]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

People are really still buying traffic from crooked ass online vendors?

OMG!?? What year is this??

They are all fucking crooks. You're buying blanks. Numbers on a screen. You might be getting about 10% real traffic and the rest is all bots.

Don't take my word, just go do some research about the mass epidemic of online traffic fraud.

There is no Federal regulation and these online crooks have it down to a science. I don't know anybody that buys online traffic anymore, banners, pop ups, you name it.

Just ask yourself this one basic question:

IF the traffic was real and it generated sales, why would they sell it?

Years ago the traffic brokers sold real traffic and you could make sales from it, but now that porn is free, repeat, PORN IS FREE, the traffic broker's market has crashed. The only way to make a profit is by selling bot clicks. Exo, Juicy, TJ, all of them are stuffed full of sources that supply bot traffic, and if you call the broker on it, you will get this same response: "Some of our suppliers and traffic sources have sent us bot traffic, but we quickly put an end to it when we find out. If you get any bot traffic, let us know so we can act appropriately." In other words, we will sell you bot traffic until you find out about it, then we correct the problem and then sell you more. But when you are not looking at your IP stats, more bot traffic will flow.

They have the very best software and programmers that can shut down their operation or change all the stats instantly before a subpoena ever hits the front door. Online traffic brokers are the ultimate scam artists the internet has ever seen.

well ....

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Only people that don't know shit are complaining about traffic brokers.. It's always the people that don't understand how to filter their traffic and people that advertise for 5 dollars and didn't see conversions. I love some traffic brokers and make good money with them. As a publisher and advertiser....

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

This almost sums it up perfectly. One tiny word missing, "finding" and then it is perfect! Buying traffic is all about testing, optimizing, targeting and finding what works. Sadly when I see posts like the on I quoted before, I always think of people who were used to buying traffic back in 2005-2007, when systems weren't able to let you target like you can now. I bet if some of these guys tested it out they would start making money again.

Advertising platforms are some of the most advanced technology in our industry and continue to progress month on month. Their loss, sadly.

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Only people that don't know shit are complaining about traffic brokers.. It's always the people that don't understand how to filter their traffic and people that advertise for 5 dollars and didn't see conversions. I love some traffic brokers and make good money with them. As a publisher and advertiser....

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

This

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by NewNick

This.

The last couple of years you would have to be comatose to not see all the new traffic companies popping up. They all claim to have billions of impressions to sell. Tier 1 grade A traffic.

Impressions not clicks.......

Of course there are new traffic broker companies popping up every day because it's a feeding frenzy on webmasters who are desperate to save their crashing businesses. Thousands of adults sites financially crashing daily and these Bot masters are taking full advantage. I'm sure they are selling some legit traffic to some of the larger established domains, but I would estimate 95% of all clients are getting screwed and don't even know it.

Have you ever bought from Plug Rush??
Go buy some and check your IP stats. A lawsuit waiting to happen.
Juicy with their "controlled" volume of clicks per banner. Let's see, 1 per 1000 impressions seems to be about right regardless of content or location.
Another one. Exo with mass bot traffic sources. All scams.

It doesn't matter they gut out the small timers with fake bot traffic because there are more where those fish came from. When the market crashes like it has, it's always a frenzy to suck the life out of market before there is nothing left. It's typical evolution of any dying business.

They are popping up left and right, these new generation traffic brokers because there is no liability, no regulation and the fish are still o plenty.

You are buying numbers on a screen. It's the best scam online.

[adultmobile]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

You are buying numbers on a screen. It's the best scam online.

Come one bots maybe 20% not all.

[oscplx]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Only people that don't know shit are complaining about traffic brokers.. It's always the people that don't understand how to filter their traffic and people that advertise for 5 dollars and didn't see conversions. I love some traffic brokers and make good money with them. As a publisher and advertiser....

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

There's always a traffic source for someone. Making money is never easy without dedication.

[LovinNothin]

Originally Posted by adultmobile

Come one bots maybe 20% not all.

If it can be 20%, then it's probably 95%. Think about it.

If you could steal and get away selling 20% bot traffic, you're going to push it and steal more. Greed is the power behind theft and it's rampant online.

You think some Russian traffic broker based in Slovakia are going to stop at 20%? lol

No regulation.

If a company gets busted, a new one starts up to replace it.

These brokers are just a couple guys in a basement with a website. Sure some might have an office for "presence" but all it is, is a website and you're buying a screen that shows you how many new numbers you got today. It's a crock of shit.

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by LovinNothin

If it can be 20%, then it's probably 95%. Think about it.

If you could steal and get away selling 20% bot traffic, you're going to push it and steal more. Greed is the power behind theft and it's rampant online.

You think some Russian traffic broker based in Slovakia are going to stop at 20%? lol

No regulation.

If a company gets busted, a new one starts up to replace it.

These brokers are just a couple guys in a basement with a website. Sure some might have an office for "presence" but all it is, is a website and you're buying a screen that shows you how many new numbers you got today. It's a crock of shit.

Are you real or just trolling? Seriously? All proper ad networks have software that tracks their traffic and flags publishers who try to send bot traffic. Every month we give refunds to our advertisers if they bought traffic on sites that we deemed suspicious or of poor quality. Networks will simply not pay the publishers and then ship the money back to advertisers.

What we do get is a lot of guys who have no clue how to buy traffic, put in 10$ run a shitty offer with 1 banner and then wonder why they didn't convert after spending 10$.

Traffic buying like anything is simple to do but not everyone is good at it.

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Only people that don't know shit are complaining about traffic brokers.. It's always the people that don't understand how to filter their traffic and people that advertise for 5 dollars and didn't see conversions. I love some traffic brokers and make good money with them. As a publisher and advertiser....

It's all about the right traffic for the perfect deal.

QFT