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opoeia4685 · 02-10-2016, 11:05 AM

I'm a researcher studying the industry and I'm looking to substantiate something I was told.

Is it true that porn sites used to offer giveaway mini vibes or bullets as a "free gift" for subscription or membership? I was told that it was used later used to prove that a legit purchase had taken place in the event of chargebacks. Does that sound right? Did anyone do this or does anyone know who used to do this?

Thanks!

Colmike9 · 02-10-2016, 11:09 AM

I'm guessing someone lied and caused chargebacks.

The only thing like that that I can think of were DVDs free when you buy a magazine.

L-Pink · 02-10-2016, 11:13 AM

wut?

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ravo · 02-10-2016, 11:44 AM

I've never heard of that.

CaptainHowdy · 02-10-2016, 02:11 PM

I can confirm that I know nothing about this ...

shake · 02-10-2016, 02:43 PM

Maybe some company did but I've never heard of it.

The Porn Nerd · 02-10-2016, 03:06 PM

Only Paul Markham can tell you what happened in the porn past.

SBJ · 02-10-2016, 03:07 PM

MaDalton · 02-10-2016, 03:10 PM

SBJ · 02-10-2016, 03:15 PM

a better clip.

WebCashMaker · 02-10-2016, 04:29 PM

I did hear when there was "recurring" VHS or DVD sales, once you signed for it, it was considered a sale and did make it harder to charge back.

Of course you would have to wrap it back up and put it back in the mail. Making a "return" on a recurring sale even harder.

Rochard · 02-10-2016, 06:37 PM

I've been doing this since 1996 and I've never heard of this.

Spunky · 02-10-2016, 06:54 PM

Not the ones I joined.I got nothing but reoccurring charges and a thanks email

Relic · 02-10-2016, 06:55 PM

Look it's the man

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bro, just steal

marlboroack · 02-10-2016, 07:27 PM

Hit me up and I'll give you all the info you'd need for nice research.

MaDalton · 02-10-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack

Hit me up and I'll give you all the info you'd need for nice research.

beerptrol · 02-10-2016, 07:58 PM

Never heard of it being done before. That being said it doesn't mean that someone who had a small never heard of paysite didn't try it. I could see it being done for a site catering to women

Wasn't there a show/convention years ago where someone was giving out mini vibes/bullets as swag to webmasters?

Helix · 02-10-2016, 08:37 PM

SBJ · 02-10-2016, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by beerptrol

Never heard of it being done before. That being said it doesn't mean that someone who had a small never heard of paysite didn't try it. I could see it being done for a site catering to women

Wasn't there a show/convention years ago where someone was giving out mini vibes/bullets as swag to webmasters?

juicy gave me a fleshlight one year at phx forum. I think it was him that was one time a rep for them back then but I could be wrong cause I've drank a lot since then.

EddyTheDog · 02-10-2016, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SBJ

juicy gave me a fleshlight one year at phx forum. I think it was him that was one time a rep for them back then but I could be wrong cause I've drank a lot since then.

I hope you washed that thing well before you used it

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MakeMeGrrrrowl · 02-10-2016, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I hope you washed that thing well before you used it

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SBJ · 02-10-2016, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I hope you washed that thing well before you used it

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iSpyCams · 02-11-2016, 10:12 AM

This would not work. You can't bill for physical goods that are actually shipped with a MID that is approved for recurring subscription of digital goods. You'd be shut down just for trying it. You'd need a separate MID or terminal ID at the very least. Also, sending someone a gift or thank you letter doesn't prove anything about the origin of a card-not-present transaction.

You could potentially use a gift like that to intimidate the cardholder and claim that it was proof, and it might be about 25% effective, but it wouldn't prevent chargebacks.

It just might make overturning them a little easier - but the chargeback would still be on your record and the fine for the dispute would stand. Additionally if overturning it failed, you'd now have 2 chargebacks and 2 fines, (second chargebacks) which on top of the cost of the item and shipping would most likely not be worth it.

just a punk · 02-11-2016, 10:35 AM

scarlettcontent · 02-11-2016, 03:37 PM

not heard of it

EvilFubAr · 02-11-2016, 04:01 PM

nope

j3rkules · 02-11-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

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xXXtesy10 · 02-11-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by marlboroack

Hit me up and I'll give you all the info you'd need for nice research.

stay away from this fucking clown loser asshole thief

MikeAMS · 02-12-2016, 04:10 AM

What I do know is that people in the past would give away "free memberships" to content if you would buy a vibe.. Simply because the tangible goods where not considered as high risk at that time so the rates where much lower for processing..

Not the case anymore unfortunately..

just a punk · 02-12-2016, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by xXXtesy10

stay away from this fucking clown loser asshole thief

LetterTwenty7 · 02-12-2016, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opoeia4685

I'm a researcher studying the industry and I'm looking to substantiate something I was told.

Is it true that porn sites used to offer giveaway mini vibes or bullets as a "free gift" for subscription or membership? I was told that it was used later used to prove that a legit purchase had taken place in the event of chargebacks. Does that sound right? Did anyone do this or does anyone know who used to do this?

Thanks!

Where are you going to publish this, if I may ask?

Paul Markham · 02-12-2016, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Only Paul Markham can tell you what happened in the porn past.

As a 40 year veteran, I can shed some light.

We used to give every customer who bought a video or DVD a free box.

Those buying magazines got a free brown paper bag.

A few shitty shops didn't, forcing customers to buy a newspaper to hide the porn mag.

Yes it's true, we were the innovators of giving away freebies with porn.

Colmike9 · 02-12-2016, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As a 40 year veteran, I can shed some light.

We used to give every customer who bought a video or DVD a free box.

Those buying magazines got a free brown paper bag.

A few shitty shops didn't, forcing customers to buy a newspaper to hide the porn mag.

Yes it's true, we were the innovators of giving away freebies with porn.

We use black plastic bags for porn, tobacco, alcohol, paraphernalia, and anything else that you don't want people to see. If shops didn't give bags away for "free" then no one would buy anything..

I thought your answer would have been better..

xXXtesy10 · 02-12-2016, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

see sig for ignorant fuck CyberSEO complete garbage software statement by drunken Russian shit for brains

plsureking · 02-12-2016, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey Verotel

What I do know is that people in the past would give away "free memberships" to content if you would buy a vibe.. Simply because the tangible goods where not considered as high risk at that time so the rates where much lower for processing..

Not the case anymore unfortunately..

+1 for hitting us with some knowledge

JA$ON · 02-12-2016, 11:32 AM

Yes, and Im not sure.....

The bullets, Ive never heard that. I do know some people that would send a cd-rom with a few porn images on it to the billing address. Costs under $2 to make and ship. Fed ex shows up and says "Package for John"....people just sign, assuming its something for them, or something they ordered.

In the small print of the sites terms it would say, for $39.95 per mo. you are BUYING a disk of images, shipped to you once every 6 months, the websites are a "free gift".

SUPER shady

MikeAMS · 02-15-2016, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JA$ON

Yes, and Im not sure.....

The bullets, Ive never heard that. I do know some people that would send a cd-rom with a few porn images on it to the billing address. Costs under $2 to make and ship. Fed ex shows up and says "Package for John"....people just sign, assuming its something for them, or something they ordered.

In the small print of the sites terms it would say, for $39.95 per mo. you are BUYING a disk of images, shipped to you once every 6 months, the websites are a "free gift".

SUPER shady

Doesn't sound good at all!
This is more or less the same construction as what I was talking about.. only this would be the shady way to do it..

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