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How much credibility does GWB have?
George W Bush enters campaign for Jeb Bush in South Carolina with veiled attacks on Donald Trump | US elections | News | The Independent
Other than die-hard Republicans who would vote for an idiot as President, who is he likely to persuade? |
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Jeb is clearly very desperate if he is turning to his brother who is still considered one of the worst presidents ever.
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He represents a bad turning point for our country. What would our history of the last 15 years be like if Jeb hadn't been governor of Florida during the 2000 election? The history of the world as we know it could be entirely different. Saddam or one of his sons would be in power in Iraq, ISIS would not exist, thousands of US servicemen would still be with their families. I don't envy the crushing weight on the man's shoulders knowing what he was a part of. He has to think about slitting his wrists. Or maybe he's oblivious to it like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
I kind of like GWB and I think he's probably well aware of how he fucked up.
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He has fuck all.
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They obviously have no idea how they are currently perceived by the masses, delusional
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The accusations Trump is tossing at GWB is completely wrong and out of line. I don't meant to supporting GWB....
With 9/11, this was a terrorist attack that NO ONE saw coming. Terrorist attacks will happen, there is nothing we can do about it, and frankly the person who controls the Oval office is not the one responsible for this. There is only so much our government can do. Since 9/11 our government has worked much harder at protecting us, including then President Bush. We now take homeland security so much seriously. As for the Iraq war, well, everyone is focused on WMD. The truth is a defacto state of war existed between the US and Iraq since Clinton was in office. We patrol the new fly zone, they shoot at our planes, and take out their missile sites. We didn't need an excuse to go into Iraq; A state of war already existed. You can also argue and debate if Iraq is better off since then but... Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Iran no longer have to fear Iraq attacking them and invading them. Bush will be most known for the economy that crumbled on his watch. However, I question how much blame we should put on President Bush. Americans are greedy and we all were foaming at the mouth watching the values of our houses going up; We were taking money out of our houses and fueling the economy by making large purchases (cars, boats, jet skis, etc) and taking vacations. Say what you want about Bush, but Bush protected us when we needed it the most - after 9/11. We went after the people who did this to us, and they haven't been able to strike out at us since then.
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you are not that stupid man? are you?
Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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At the Eurocrypt conference of cryptographers in May 2004 in Interlaken, Switzerland, David Naccache, director of an information security lab at Gemplus S.A., and Claire Whelan, a computer science graduate student at Dublin City University, analyzed a redacted portion of the PDB: An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told an [redacted] service at the same time that Bin Ladin was planning to exploit the operative's access to the US to mount a terrorist strike Cryptographers determined with high confidence that the redacted word in the sentence was "Egyptian" |
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But using it as an excuse to finish his daddy's job was his fault. We all know Saddam Hussein and Iraq is a "Bush" thing. If there was any other president in the oval office at that time, Iraq wouldn't have entered anyone's mind. They found reasons to go because they wanted to, and willed the evidence into existence to justify their need to do it.
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Saddam was hung by the neck until dead and not Bush; if you think that is a win
![]() GW Bush trashed the assets of the common man in the US to enrich his 'buddies'. He's right up there with the criminal Richard M. Nixon. History will not be kind to either of those men ![]() Jeb's albatross is his brother ... |
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Iraq was an illegal war, there were no WMD, the evidence was concocted by ass kissers and again why try to change regimes? Obama is also guilty of trying to imagine the ME can be ruled by moderate leaders. It needs a century of people like ISIS tearing it apart, without the West interfering, so it can learn it is it's own problem. The financial crash was obvious. The markets were betting that Americans and other countries taxpayers would bail them out. These markets need regulating on a worldwide basis. Those that don't are excluded from EU and US markets. And any crash is then their's to bail out. But as you point out, voters are too greedy to realise they're living in cloud cuckoo land. Maybe they will learn after the next crash. ![]() Yes, meeting force with force is necessary. But Iraq was little threat as you said we imposed a no-fly zone and removed any missile battery that dared to launch. |
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