Originally Posted by wehateporn

Was worse than Holocaust IMHO

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Hitler lost the battle of Britain due to RAF strength and Luftwaffe weakness, not because of some change in bombing targets.

And no Tokyo wasn't a potential target for the bomb, it had already been destroyed in previous bombings.

Originally Posted by Robbie

What I'd really like to see would be a return to how the President AND Vice President were chosen.

Right now we have the President getting to choose his own "running mate" who also becomes the President of the Senate.
Meaning that gives the executive branch the deciding vote in the Senate in case of a tie.

That was never meant to happen.

The way it was done in the beginning was that the guy who got the most votes became President. His opponent became Vice President.

In other words the Vice President wasn't the "running mate" of the President and instead was the leader of the OPPOSING party. Which made it far more fair because the Vice President is the Senate President and gets to cast any deciding vote in the Senate.

Imagine if it had been Al Gore as Bush's Vice President.

Or if Hillary were to be Trump's Vice President.

Originally Posted by Robbie

The winners write the history books.

Never before or since has their been an atrocity like those 2 atomic bombs being dropped on those two cities.

Originally Posted by crockett

Back on the subject of this topic and the destruction of the Republican party..

Isn't it quite ironic that it was Republicans themselves whom brought about this whole ant-establishment vendetta as an attempt to win votes. Yet their little Frankenstein has come to destroy their own party rather than the Democrats.

The irony is on overload..

Originally Posted by spads

Let's say you get your wish and that does happen. What do you think happens after that? That the whole world will hold hands and sing?

Originally Posted by crucifissio

2 realistic choices:

1) bend over to the USA and end up like "iraq" or the middle east

2) take the mother fuckers down with you


if its too much to ask to be left alone in your own country, without mickey mouse US politics fucking up the entire region, then option #2 seems mighty attractive...I know americans will not understand because they figure theres nothing wrong with bombing others etc...but Id pick option #2 every single time...

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Bomb the Airfields and factories making te planes. No Airforce. Invasion of the UK, no Desert Campaign, Russian Convoys are impacted, No US involvement, Second Front, Germany wins.

Tokyo had not been bombed to the extent an Atom bomb would have impacted. It wasn't bombed because it was where the hierarchy were based. The people who could surrender.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

come on now. i know you can google tokyo ww2 and see for yourself. i mean jeez the very first air raid USA did on japan was the Doolittle raid on Tokyo just months after Pearl. we bombed the living shit out of that city for years. and remember, japanese architecture at the time was paper mache. literally, the buildings, homes, structures, everything was wood and paper.

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Doolittle Raid was less about doing damage and more about boosting American morale.

Originally Posted by Robbie

He's not destroying their party. They are.

He represents the more liberal wing of the Republican party and the conservative wing (which has been in charge since Reagan) is fighting him tooth and nail.

Imagine if they were actually treating him like the frontrunner and eventual nominee that he is. None of this would be happening.

Trump is what used to be called a "Rockefeller Republican"
New Yorker with money who isn't a social conservative. Today they call them "RINO" (republican in name only)

And the weird thing is...they were hated by the Southerners. Which is why the Democrat Party was so strong in the South all of my life up until Reagan perfected Nixon's "southern strategy" and took the South from the Democrat Party.

I say it's weird because the Southern states...which are supposed to be super conservative and religious...were all won by a loud "yankee" from New York who doesn't give a damn about all that religious stuff.
Cruz and Rubio should have won those states.

So anyway, in my opinion...the people fracturing the Republican Party are the establishment party leaders. They have had power for almost 40 years in the Party. And now they see that being taken away from them by the actual Republican voters going for Trump instead of their handpicked boy Bush.

Originally Posted by Rochard

As you pointed out, the very nature of warfare itself has dramatically changed. Governments and their armed forces can do a lot more damage and civilians get in the way. During WWII we carpet bombed entire cities, destroying them completely and killing the entire civilian population.

This is why we now have the Geneva Conventions.

Originally Posted by spads

You didn't answer my question. That's because you know exactly what will happen. Either Russia or China will become the next super power and they'll do all the same shit the US is doing or worse.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

it is the direction the USA is pushing the world in....the USA that is 5% of the planet spends on war like the other 95% combined...

no peaceful solution will result...you know this, I know this...everybody knows it

2 possible scenarios:

1) technology will advance and the other 95% of the world will just keep taking it up the butt and not arm the fuck up

2) the world will arm the fuck up...small countries will have "off switches" to life on earth...




thanks USA!

Originally Posted by spads

Again you dodged the question. You know I'm right. The US disappears tomorrow, Russia and China battle it out for the alpha role, and everything continues as it did before. Your blind hatred of the US isn't based in rational thought.

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I clearly wrote "off switch to life on earth" why are you mentioning russians and china?...

delivering a nuke against the USA is clearly not an option, but building a fucked up one that you point down and not up, that splits the globe in half, solves the delivery problem...

or

bacteria...delivers itself...

small countries have the right to be left alone, or they have the right to take the invaders down with them...you are the one who is being irrational with your "let hillary and trump bomb you and shut up about it" stuff...