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slapass · 03-19-2016, 12:04 PM

Donald Trump's "big" announcement is not so big - CBS News

"The real estate mogul and reality show star announced on Wednesday that he will give $5 million to charity if Mr. Obama will release his college and passport applications and records. Trump said a check will be delivered to a charity of the president's choice if the documentation is released "to my satisfaction" by October 31.

Some "birthers" have suggested that Mr. Obama's college records would show that he transferred from a school in Indonesia, and would thus refute the overwhelming evidence that the president was born in the United States."

This is the guy some people want to be the President?

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-19-2016, 12:07 PM

Why is it so bad and so evil to question where someone was born? Obama (not even his real name) grew up in another country in a muslim family with radial communist ties. But if you bring this up you're a racist!

Scott McD · 03-19-2016, 12:09 PM

But the money would go to charity right ?!? And that's a bad thing ??

slapass · 03-19-2016, 12:14 PM

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But the money would go to charity right ?!? And that's a bad thing ??

He was just trying to insult the President. Who has the motive or power to take a young Kenyan lad and make him President without anyone catching on? There was no motive or any reasonable way to do this. It was clearly just a way to poke at the President.

He makes a habit of pushing a bad hand. Pretty easy to do when you have cash behind you so who cares if you are a nut case. Harder to do as the Potus.

L-Pink · 03-19-2016, 12:20 PM

"?Don?t let anybody tell you that it?s corporations and businesses that create jobs"

Hillary Clinton, but hey only Trump says dumb things right ...

sarettah · 03-19-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Obama grew up in another country

Hawaii is another country?

Where did you go to elementary school at anyway?

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-19-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

He was just trying to insult the President. Who has the motive or power to take a young Kenyan lad and make him President without anyone catching on? There was no motive or any reasonable way to do this. It was clearly just a way to poke at the President.

He makes a habit of pushing a bad hand. Pretty easy to do when you have cash behind you so who cares if you are a nut case. Harder to do as the Potus.

How is it an insult? And why are all of Obama's records sealed?

Robbie · 03-19-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Donald Trump's "big" announcement is not so big - CBS News

"The real estate mogul and reality show star announced on Wednesday that he will give $5 million to charity if Mr. Obama will release his college and passport applications and records. Trump said a check will be delivered to a charity of the president's choice if the documentation is released "to my satisfaction" by October 31.

Some "birthers" have suggested that Mr. Obama's college records would show that he transferred from a school in Indonesia, and would thus refute the overwhelming evidence that the president was born in the United States."

This is the guy some people want to be the President?

Did you know that the whole "Birther" movement was started by Hillary Clinton's campaign in the primary of 2008?

No? This is NBC (who love Hillary and Obama) from back in 2012:

slapass · 03-20-2016, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Did you know that the whole "Birther" movement was started by Hillary Clinton's campaign in the primary of 2008?

No? This is NBC (who love Hillary and Obama) from back in 2012:

Nice try. It was Hilary Clinton campaign supporters. Sort of missed a key word there. Did you also catch that, no legit candidate took up the banner. Then they mention Donald Trump did. Reinforces my point that the guy was just barking up any tree.

Yes other candidates have said and done dumb stuff. Did they hold a press conference to do it? Go on TV multiple times? Claim it as a victory when proven wrong?

The guy is a loon.

The Porn Nerd · 03-20-2016, 08:18 AM

Ego + money + fame + a Media willing to cover his every move = Donald Trump 2016.

crockett · 03-20-2016, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

"?Don?t let anybody tell you that it?s corporations and businesses that create jobs"

Hillary Clinton, but hey only Trump says dumb things right ...

You remind me of the resident commies. Can never stay on subject and can't wait to say "but your guy is bad so that makes it all ok"..

bronco67 · 03-20-2016, 08:40 AM

This is the reason Donald Trump is running for president (It's also masturbation for his oversized ego.). Notice when he mentions Donald Trump's "credentials and depth of experience"...there's a lot of snickers in audience. Because despite his wealth, he's thought of as a joke by anyone with half a brain.

You just know he was fucking steaming under that fake smile. Do you understand the difference in intelligence levels between our current president and that yellow haired clown?

slapass · 03-20-2016, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You remind me of the resident commies. Can never stay on subject and can't wait to say "but your guy is bad so that makes it all ok"..

Crockett, I am pretty liberal and I have a hard time with the Obama refrain that govt does this for America.

mineistaken · 03-20-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Who has the motive or power to take a young Kenyan lad and make him President without anyone catching on? There was no motive or any reasonable way to do this.

I do not think anybody is saying that somebody took Kenyan lad and started grooming him for president while contemplating plans how to hide his birth place etc. That certainly would not make sense, just take an American and start grooming.
So no, nobody is suggesting that it was like that.

mineistaken · 03-20-2016, 09:36 AM

And why questioning this is being a nut case?
Nobody who is smart and objective would dare to put his life on the bet that Hussein was born in US. There is at least a little bit of doubt and I do not see how someone questioning it is a loon or anything. Perfectly normal, plus it was great publicity for him and makes smart sense from business point of view.

Robbie · 03-20-2016, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Nice try. It was Hilary Clinton campaign supporters. Sort of missed a key word there.

FALSE. They clearly say in that report that the Clinton CAMPAIGN was desperate and started that up . Not "supporters" Supporters are voters. The campaign is Hillary.

Of course they will say that their people went rogue...just like Cruz claimed it in Iowa when he fucked Carson.

Point is that you made an initial statement that insinuated that Trump started it. He did not. It was the very dirty campaign that Hillary ran against Obama in 2008 that was the beginning of the birther movement.

None of it is relevant now. Neither Hillary or Trump give a damn about Obama at this point except to use him to get elected. He is the past now.

ITraffic · 03-20-2016, 09:49 AM

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Robbie · 03-20-2016, 10:31 AM

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he just rode the wave of anger of a population downsized over the last four decades ...

I don't think so at all.

I think he's riding the "anger" of people who know they have been lied to by their politicians and the media.

That's why he is polling across all demographics and it's why 20% of Democrats have switched to vote for Trump already.

The media is trying to paint it like only the evil WHITE people care about trade imbalances, national debt, senseless wars, etc.
That's not true. All races care about these things. Has nothing to do with a "population" being "downsized"

On immigration Trump has said over and over and over that he wants MORE immigration to the U.S. But he wants them coming in LEGALLY. He has even proposed that the process to become legal be streamlined (which is way overdue) so that more people can come in legally.

The news doesn't report that so it's no wonder that people don't hear it. But if you happen to tune in to one of the news channels at a rare moment where they actually just show his speech live...you will hear it loud and clear.

slapass · 03-20-2016, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

FALSE. They clearly say in that report that the Clinton CAMPAIGN was desperate and started that up . Not "supporters" Supporters are voters. The campaign is Hillary.

Of course they will say that their people went rogue...just like Cruz claimed it in Iowa when he fucked Carson.

Point is that you made an initial statement that insinuated that Trump started it. He did not. It was the very dirty campaign that Hillary ran against Obama in 2008 that was the beginning of the birther movement.

None of it is relevant now. Neither Hillary or Trump give a damn about Obama at this point except to use him to get elected. He is the past now.

Read the graphic on the screen. "Supporter" "Claims started in 2008 by Hilary Clinton Supporters". "Not Clinton herself or her staff but supporters."

I guess my point is the birther thing was insane.

L-Pink · 03-20-2016, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You remind me of the resident commies. Can never stay on subject and can't wait to say "but your guy is bad so that makes it all ok"..

You remind me of an angry guy living in a van. Oh wait .......

And commie? Lol

slapass · 03-20-2016, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

And why questioning this is being a nut case?
Nobody who is smart and objective would dare to put his life on the bet that Hussein was born in US. There is at least a little bit of doubt and I do not see how someone questioning it is a loon or anything. Perfectly normal, plus it was great publicity for him and makes smart sense from business point of view.

I rest my case.... Ok so what do birthers believe? He was born in Kenya. Someone destroyed all of Kenya's birth certificates. He was able to fake tons of stuff. He fooled the democrtic party and then the world. If he did all that he deserves to be President as the guy is good.

It is a nutcase assumption. People knew him. He had jobs. He went to school.

Trump did not win by being a nutcase. Just my opinion as obviously he gets your vote because of it hahahha

NemesisEnforcer · 03-20-2016, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

This is the reason Donald Trump is running for president (It's also masturbation for his oversized ego.). Notice when he mentions Donald Trump's "credentials and depth of experience"...there's a lot of snickers in audience. Because despite his wealth, he's thought of as a joke by anyone with half a brain.

You just know he was fucking steaming under that fake smile. Do you understand the difference in intelligence levels between our current president and that yellow haired clown?

Trump was angry then but what pushed him over the edge was when Obama decided to wait until the finale of Celebrity Apprentice and preempted his show to announce that Osama bin Laden was killed, captured and fed to the fishes ... in a dignified way.

Robbie · 03-20-2016, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Read the graphic on the screen. "Supporter" "Claims started in 2008 by Hilary Clinton Supporters". "Not Clinton herself or her staff but supporters."

I guess my point is the birther thing was insane.

Yes, they put that up on the screen while at the same time actually saying that it was her campaign staff that did it. Typical media shit there...

And yeah, the birther thing was fucking dumb. Made Trump look like an idiot. "YUGE" mistake on his part at that time.

But that was 2012. And the whole "birther" crap hasn't been brought up by anybody in the campaign this year. Obama is the past and will only be used by Hillary to latch on to him in hopes of being elected and by Trump to criticize his policies to get elected.

Both of those scenarios are perfectly acceptable politics.

I am 100% in total agreement with you on Trump making an ass out of himself on the birther issue.

I have a feeling that what is happening now in the primary race in the Republican party is going to be child's play compared to how rough and nasty the general election is going to be.

Right now Hillary has it easy. The Republican establishment is busy destroying it's own candidate.

If they succeed and Trump isn't the nominee...then Hillary will coast to victory as all the Trump supporters are going to turn their backs on the Republican party.

BUT...if Trump DOES win the nomination and the Republicans unite, then we are going to see a historic election in every way.

The establishment VS Trump. The media VS Trump.
It's gonna get nasty.

ITraffic · 03-20-2016, 11:39 AM

yes all off a sudden people are so angry about being "lied to by the media" enough to vote for a reality show buffoon.

he strikes a note among people who are economically threatened about outsourcing and illegal immigrants taking their jobs.

that is what he mostly talks about.

it is obvious why he is popular.

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't think so at all.

I think he's riding the "anger" of people who know they have been lied to by their politicians and the media.

That's why he is polling across all demographics and it's why 20% of Democrats have switched to vote for Trump already.

The media is trying to paint it like only the evil WHITE people care about trade imbalances, national debt, senseless wars, etc.
That's not true. All races care about these things. Has nothing to do with a "population" being "downsized"

On immigration Trump has said over and over and over that he wants MORE immigration to the U.S. But he wants them coming in LEGALLY. He has even proposed that the process to become legal be streamlined (which is way overdue) so that more people can come in legally.

The news doesn't report that so it's no wonder that people don't hear it. But if you happen to tune in to one of the news channels at a rare moment where they actually just show his speech live...you will hear it loud and clear.

crockett · 03-20-2016, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Crockett, I am pretty liberal and I have a hard time with the Obama refrain that govt does this for America.

He said nothing about Obama, but what he did do was the typical deflection tactic that the Ruskies always use..

See that's the diffrence, I've often said I don't like Hillary or Obama does shit I don't like. I don't automatically go rah rah team just because someone says something bad about that team..

Meanwhile our conservabros always deflect and can never udder a bad word about their team. When guys like Trump or whoever their current anointed one is does or says something stupid they just make excuses and ignore it away by trying to blame Obama, Hillary or whoever.

That's what I was replying to.

Robbie · 03-20-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ITraffic

yes all off a sudden people are so angry about being "lied to by the media" enough to vote for a reality show buffoon.

It's not "all of a sudden" and it's not just anger at the media.

It is true that Americans trust in media is at an all time LOW. And can you blame them? Do YOU trust the shit they "report"?

I'm pretty sure that you aren't dumb...so you definitely can understand that Americans are angry at their GOVERNMENT.

We get lied to by politicians promising to change things (if I had a dollar for every politician who said "Washington is broke and I'm going to fix it"....). We find our country in major debt. We find out we are spied on. We watch the big banks get bailed out with tax money while the same banks foreclose on our homes.

I think you are deliberately not seeing what is happening. I see a historic political revolution happening right before our eyes.

And I see Trump being vilified by the media at the behest of the establishment.

And THAT is only making things worse as the people of this country are seeing it happen on their news broadcasts.

Hell, the media isn't even hiding it anymore or pretending to not be biased. It's disgusting.

crockett · 03-20-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

Trump was angry then but what pushed him over the edge was when Obama decided to wait until the finale of Celebrity Apprentice and preempted his show to announce that Osama bin Laden was killed, captured and fed to the fishes ... in a dignified way.

Did he actually do that? If so that's funny shit and I tip my hat to Obama for such a sneaky payback tactic.

I never watched Trump show so I would of never known Obama announced it during his show.

crockett · 03-20-2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

It's not "all of a sudden" and it's not just anger at the media.

It is true that Americans trust in media is at an all time LOW. And can you blame them? Do YOU trust the shit they "report"?

I'm pretty sure that you aren't dumb...so you definitely can understand that Americans are angry at their GOVERNMENT.

We get lied to by politicians promising to change things (if I had a dollar for every politician who said "Washington is broke and I'm going to fix it"....). We find our country in major debt. We find out we are spied on. We watch the big banks get bailed out with tax money while the same banks foreclose on our homes.

I think you are deliberately not seeing what is happening. I see a historic political revolution happening right before our eyes.

And I see Trump being vilified by the media at the behest of the establishment.

And THAT is only making things worse as the people of this country are seeing it happen on their news broadcasts.

Hell, the media isn't even hiding it anymore or pretending to not be biased. It's disgusting.

You are not paying attention.. Trump is being vilified because he acts like a jack ass and does inappropriate things. You like to pretend he does no wrong but the media can't put his stupid words in his mouth.

The establishment doesn't like Sanders either but are they vilifying him? No because he doesn't say stupid shit so instead they ignore him.

I dunno why you always pretend he does nothing wrong..

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JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-20-2016, 01:59 PM

All aboard the Trump Train!

NKYKev · 03-20-2016, 11:47 PM

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Hawaii is another country?

Where did you go to elementary school at anyway

?

As a child Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 -1971 when his mother joined his stepfather there. He moved back to Hawaii in 1971 to live with his grandparents.

Paul Markham · 03-21-2016, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Why is it so bad and so evil to question where someone was born? Obama (not even his real name) grew up in another country in a muslim family with radial communist ties. But if you bring this up you're a racist!

The only reason this rumour gets air time is because of the level of intelligence of the people who even think it might be true.

Paul Markham · 03-21-2016, 01:08 AM

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"?Don?t let anybody tell you that it?s corporations and businesses that create jobs"

Hillary Clinton, but hey only Trump says dumb things right ...

Corporations create jobs in the Third World. They cut jobs in the West. Except for the most essential and shop assistants.

The most essential are on the UN Endangered List.

Paul Markham · 03-21-2016, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

I don't think so at all.

I think he's riding the "anger" of people who know they have been lied to by their politicians and the media.

That's why he is polling across all demographics and it's why 20% of Democrats have switched to vote for Trump already.

And everything Trump say is 100% true.

Read his plan to reform Healthcare. The reason why US healthcare is so expensive is because it's in the hands of big business, he wants to keep it there. That's pure spin.

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I am 100% in total agreement with you on Trump making an ass out of himself on the birther issue.

His mouth has a bad habit of making him look dumb. Good think it's not connected to his brilliant business brain.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 03-21-2016, 07:38 AM

I honestly don't believe Obama was born in the USA. Why is it so wrong to question that? And of course the guy is muslim and a communist

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