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Old 03-23-2016, 05:00 AM   #1
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10 million dead in congo by the hands of belgian king leopold 2

just a reminder why the 3rd world is like it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitation.2C_atrocities.2 C_and_death_toll

If production quotas were not met, hands would be chopped off.



And children were kept in zoo-s




the white man: washing his hands from the blood since forever

you reap what you sow
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:12 AM   #2
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yeah right, white guilt forever.
you dont know that weak and stupid are always to be exploited ?

You think that black people in Africa werent doing the same atrocities to themselves at their own scale ?
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yeah right, white guilt forever.
you dont know that weak and stupid are always to be exploited ?

You think that black people in Africa werent doing the same atrocities to themselves at their own scale ?
just a reminder, when some white guys calls somebody a savage, so that they can understand the consequences of exploiting entire regions and claiming to be "progressive"...

your other sentence is pure bullshit, white people have been committing atrocities against white people just like black on black...

the west exploited the rest, now the west is paying for what they did because the undeveloped regions got genocide instead of education...you reap what you sow
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Old news about Leoplod and the Belgians these are 25 years later much worse... And in the 90ties... Worse yet.

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Belgian beer rocks, man ...
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being a fanatic Serb, he definitely knows a good genocide when he sees one.
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Whining about stuff that happened 100 years ago?
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Whining about stuff that happened 100 years ago?
just saying that people eventually have to face up to the consequences of their actions...none of the living are responsible for what leopold II did, but what he did, and the other colony boys, and later on US foreign policy, will have consequences on all of man kind for decades to come...

you reap what you sow...sow something nice then...
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Having a people zoo would be awesome
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and ? did I say that some white people didnt exploit other white people ?
Africa was always a shithole and it is shithole...
white people should pay for what ? that black people have 6 kids on average and later they cant feed them ? it's also white men's fault ?
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your other sentence is pure bullshit, white people have been committing atrocities against white people just like black on black...

the west exploited the rest, now the west is paying for what they did because the undeveloped regions got genocide instead of education...you reap what you sow
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And a petting zoo at that...just be careful because some of them are known to bite.
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and ? did I say that some white people didnt exploit other white people ?
Africa was always a shithole and it is shithole...
white people should pay for what ? that black people have 6 kids on average and later they cant feed them ? it's also white men's fault ?

yes it is the white mans fault that he exploited the region for centuries, kept them as slaves and zoo animals, and it had a devastating effect on their social and economic development...the white man owned the region, and called all the shots in the region so YES it is the white mans responsibility...

the west is very very wrong if it thinks it will not face the consequences of its actions, now or in 100 years...

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just a reminder why the 3rd world is like it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium#Exploitation.2C_atrocities.2 C_and_death_toll

If production quotas were not met, hands would be chopped off.



And children were kept in zoo-s




the white man: washing his hands from the blood since forever

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Holy shit. So you mean there was an atrocity out there that wasn't the USA's fault? I thought if it wasn't for the devil worshipping Americans there would be peace on earth LMAO :D
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it's bullshit. Africa is where it is because of its people mentality. just like it was 50,100,200 or 500 years ago

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yes it is the white mans fault that he exploited the region for centuries, kept them as slaves and zoo animals, and it had a devastating effect on their social and economic development...the white man owned the region, and called all the shots in the region so YES it is the white mans responsibility...

the west is very very wrong if it thinks it will not face the consequences of its actions, now or in 100 years...

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Pareto efficiency, or Pareto optimality, is a state of allocation of resources in which it is impossible to make any one individual better off without making at least one individual worse off.
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it's bullshit. Africa is where it is because of its people mentality. just like it was 50,100,200 or 500 years ago
70 years ago europe was at war, so was it 100 years ago and 200 years ago and 500 years ago...

as for africa, you chose to completely ignore the centuries of exploitation...this is fine, its nor really up for debate whether pareto efficiency applies or not...your claim relies on the "they are like that" false premise, is say its pure nurture from the west...
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so why people from Africa didnt came to Europe to enslave us ? because they were hippies or maybe because they had no idea about outside world, no technology and no means to do anything... so what does it mean ? that they were weak and stupid....
why when Europe had gun powder, electricity, cars, roads, medicine, economy, industry and so on - Africa had nothing ? it was also white man's fault ? as far as I know slave trade began around XVII century, where was Africa that time ? in the almost very same shithole place where they are now
Did I deny wars in Europe in last centuries ? No I didnt, so what are you talking about ? We were good too in killing and mass murdering each other since 100's of years. just like Africans, Asians, Indians or whatever.
what is "false" in my statement ? what kind of revolutionary technology provided Africa in the last centuries ? anything specific, or just "voodoo" ?
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as for africa, you chose to completely ignore the centuries of exploitation...this is fine, its nor really up for debate whether pareto efficiency applies or not...your claim relies on the "they are like that" false premise, is say its pure nurture from the west...
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and what the fuck Kongo from XIX century does even have in common with some wahabis shit that want to conquer the world with their "jihad" ? because this is what you suggest ?
do you think that these Daesh bearded goat fuckers and strip boys watchers with their own interpretation of "Merciful Allah" are payback for black man's slavery ?
are you crazy ?
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yeah right, white guilt forever.
you dont know that weak and stupid are always to be exploited ?

You think that black people in Africa werent doing the same atrocities to themselves at their own scale ?
No. They were/are not capable. If they had been or were now they would be worse. They don't have a liberal agenda.
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what is "false" in my statement ?
that centuries of exploitation had no negative effect on their development as a society...all they have learned from the white man is that their hands will get cut off if production quotas are not met...
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70 years ago europe was at war, so was it 100 years ago and 200 years ago and 500 years ago...

as for africa, you chose to completely ignore the centuries of exploitation...this is fine, its nor really up for debate whether pareto efficiency applies or not...your claim relies on the "they are like that" false premise, is say its pure nurture from the west...
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yeah right, white guilt forever.
you dont know that weak and stupid are always to be exploited ?

You think that black people in Africa werent doing the same atrocities to themselves at their own scale ?
Exactly. Has nothing to do with race. Stronger nations exploited weaker nations for centuries. If black nations were stronger and white nations were weaker it would have been the opposite.
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because black guys werent exploiting, killing and enslaving other black guys since centuries before white man
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because black guys werent exploiting, killing and enslaving other black guys since centuries before white man
in any case you reap what you sow, its not like I am claiming superman is real, its a common sense point that action = reaction...and the actions of the strong towards the weak will have implications in the future for everybody...
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yes it is the white mans fault that he exploited the region for centuries, kept them as slaves and zoo animals, and it had a devastating effect on their social and economic development...the white man owned the region, and called all the shots in the region so YES it is the white mans responsibility...

the west is very very wrong if it thinks it will not face the consequences of its actions, now or in 100 years...

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why were they so easily exploitable? why were/are they still living in tribalism when everyone else moved on long before? they also have no problems exploiting their own people. so they would just be doing to themselves on a larger scale. all you are looking for is justification for your views so you don't just look like an american hating asshole but sorry, its not working.
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why were they so easily exploitable? why were/are they still living in tribalism when everyone else moved on long before? they also have no problems exploiting their own people. so they would just be doing to themselves on a larger scale. all you are looking for is justification for your views so you don't just look like an american hating asshole but sorry, its not working.
oh so they were easy to exploit so its their fault? so if a woman gets assaulted by a man its her fault for being easy to exploit or is the man is just an asshole?...you almost make it sound like its the strong persons duty to exploit the weak?

if the white man did not exploit them they would have exploited each other worse?...sounds very slippery slope to me...
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Old news about Leoplod and the Belgians these are 25 years later much worse... And in the 90ties... Worse yet.

Those are Muslim SS volunteers.

From wikipedia: Himmler was personally fascinated by the Islamic faith and believed that Islam created fearless soldiers. He found their ferocity preferable to the gentility of Christians and believed their martial qualities should be further developed and put to use. He thought that Muslim men would make perfect SS soldiers as Islam "promises them Heaven if they fight and are killed in action."



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Those are Muslim SS volunteers.

From wikipedia: Himmler was personally fascinated by the Islamic faith and believed that Islam created fearless soldiers. He found their ferocity preferable to the gentility of Christians and believed their martial qualities should be further developed and put to use. He thought that Muslim men would make perfect SS soldiers as Islam "promises them Heaven if they fight and are killed in action."



The more things change, the more they stay the same

Finally somebody GOT my point
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People shouldn't reply to that fruitcake, it just encourages him to spout is bizarre baseless rants.
The next time some third world scum blows themselves up in a random European city, that knob will be here claiming it was revenge - once he's been given enough time to try and find some ancient and totally unrelated "exploitation" on wikipedia as "proof" of his tinfoil hat theories.
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People shouldn't reply to that fruitcake, it just encourages him to spout is bizarre baseless rants.
The next time some third world scum blows themselves up in a random European city, that knob will be here claiming it was revenge - once he's been given enough time to try and find some ancient and totally unrelated "exploitation" on wikipedia as "proof" of his tinfoil hat theories.
it is first world scum that outbombs all terrorists x10.000 but this bothers nobody...hell today is the 17 anniversary of 50.000 bombs just dropped on my country LOL

how much do terrorists detonate? every few months 2-3 bombs?...you were saying about muslims again?

I did not claim it was revenge did I? I claimed that you reap what you sow...and the 1st world has sowed some terrible things...

now go back to pretending that US and EU hands are clean LOL no matter how much you guys murder and bomb it never counts LOL
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it is first world scum that outbombs all terrorists x10.000 but this bothers nobody...hell today is the 17 anniversary of 50.000 bombs just dropped on my country LOL

how much do terrorists detonate? every few months 2-3 bombs?...you were saying about muslims again?

I did not claim it was revenge did I? I claimed that you reap what you sow...and the 1st world has sowed some terrible things...

now go back to pretending that US and EU hands are clean LOL no matter how much you guys murder and bomb it never counts LOL
You never get it do you, those terrorists don't care about what america or europe does around the world, they are angry because the christian countries they live in are not islamic. The lastest bombers were belgian not syrian or from any other dust bowl, belgian. The french bombers were belgian/french, the british bombers were british.
They are fighting a jihadist war.
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You never get it do you, those terrorists don't care about what america or europe does around the world, they are angry because the christian countries they live in are not islamic. The lastest bombers were belgian not syrian or from any other dust bowl, belgian. The french bombers were belgian/french, the british bombers were british.
They are fighting a jihadist war.
did I ever defend the terrorists?

my only defense was of islam, that is 1/4 of man kind, against cherry picked data that suits bigot agendas...islam has nothing to do with me at all, but I live on this planet, and I think that making 1/4 of mankind your enemy, because the media make $$$$ on it, a dumb mother fucker mistake...

the terroirists are just a bunch of idiots, but the bigger idiots are the ones who are doing exactly what the attacks are meant to do: create intolerance...the idiots are winning, and it is sad and amusing at the same time...
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did I ever defend the terrorists?

my only defense was of islam, that is 1/4 of man kind, against cherry picked data that suits bigot agendas...islam has nothing to do with me at all, but I live on this planet, and I think that making 1/4 of mankind your enemy, because the media make $$$$ on it, a dumb mother fucker mistake...

the terroirists are just a bunch of idiots, but the bigger idiots are the ones who are doing exactly what the attacks are meant to do: create intolerance...the idiots are winning, and it is sad and amusing at the same time...
FFS, those terrorists are the intolerant ones, thats why they are doing it.
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that centuries of exploitation had no negative effect on their development as a society...all they have learned from the white man is that their hands will get cut off if production quotas are not met...
Of course, it has a negative effect. Like the negative effect the Zulus, Egyptians, Romans, Syrians, Persians, Vikings, Saxons, Babylonian, Aztecs, Mayan, Mongol, Chinese, Indians, Ottoman and a 1,000 others had on the people they enslaved.

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in any case you reap what you sow, its not like I am claiming superman is real, its a common sense point that action = reaction...and the actions of the strong towards the weak will have implications in the future for everybody...
Precisely and the conflict in your own country dates back to when Turks invaded Europe.

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it is first world scum that outbombs all terrorists x10.000 but this bothers nobody...hell today is the 17 anniversary of 50.000 bombs just dropped on my country LOL
If it had not supported the genocide in Bosnia there would have been no bombs neede,.

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how much do terrorists detonate? every few months 2-3 bombs?...you were saying about muslims again?
Because that's all they can manage. Give them a Tu-160 or B-29 and the crew and they will bomb with it.

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I did not claim it was revenge did I? I claimed that you reap what you sow...and the 1st world has sowed some terrible things...
Along with the Third World. Which is why Muslims are killing Muslims at an alarming rate. More than we kill.

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now go back to pretending that US and EU hands are clean LOL no matter how much you guys murder and bomb it never counts LOL
No they're not clean and personally I think we should pull out and let the savages rip each other's guts out. and buy the oil off the winners.

Your argument is based on one thing. The West's superior knowledge, skills, abilities and technology. The Saudis have modern arms and trained people to use them. So they kill at a similar level to the US. Give the same to ISIS and you're in more trouble than you can dream of. The only things stopping Serbs killing more Muslim Bosnians was the weapons the Serbs had. And the US showing them the consequences of committing genocide.

Do you believe Radovan Karad?ić would have used a B-29 if he had one?He's one of yours.
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I could make a war zone out of the UK if I had USA resources...arm the irish, arm the scottish, give support to some separatist fucks and the UK would be worse than syria...

then I would wash my war mongering hands with statements like "the english committed genocide and oppressed the entire region, it had nothing to do with my military support and war mongering at all nooooooo"

yugoslavia had more peace than the UK with its IRA...you did not live in my country but I lived in yours during the IRA troubles...

but the EU got what it deserved, it supported US foreign policy, licked their assholes clean, and now you have millions of ex yugoslavia immigrants in the EU who would have not immigrated had there been no western war mongering...a peace deal was already signed by all 3 sides before the USA started war mongering and the EU ass licking...

you reap what you sow...there is no way around it...

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I could make a war zone out of the UK if I had USA resources...arm the irish, arm the scottish, give support to some separatist fucks and the UK would be worse than syria...

then I would wash my war mongering hands with statements like "the english committed genocide and oppressed the entire region, it had nothing to do with my military support and war mongering at all nooooooo"

yugoslavia had more peace than the UK with its IRA...you did not live in my country but I lived in yours during the IRA troubles...

but the EU got what it deserved, it supported US foreign policy, licked their assholes clean, and now you have millions of ex yugoslavia immigrants in the EU who would have not immigrated had there been no western war mongering...a peace deal was already signed by all 3 sides before the USA started war mongering and the EU ass licking...

you reap what you sow...there is no way around it...

keep on pretending that the likes of bush and clinton stand for anything but $$$
I quote what people did and do. You reply with what they could. Then go on to compare a few deaths in the fight against the undemocratic IRA with Serbian undemocratic genocide.

Anyone can strap bombs to themselves and walk into a crowded mall, theatre, airport lounge. Muslims do, no one else does. Not even the IRA.

There would be no US or EU interference in the ME if Muslims weren't determined to kill those who disagree with other Muslims for ideology differences. This has been going on for 1400 years and the Quran promises them 72 virgins if they die killing others. Which is mostly Muslims.

The US wouldn't have bombed your country if Serbs weren't killing Muslims. In the beginning, UN and NATO troops were ineffective at stopping the killing. It had to be, bombs dropping on Serbia to bring the genocide to a stop.

BBC - History - World Wars: Partisans: War in the Balkans 1941 - 1945

https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-rea...ing-yugoslavia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_..._in_Yugoslavia

These might help you understand why Serbs were so keen to kill Muslims. It's not about what they could, more about what they did and had massive support for from fellow Serbs. It took a superior miltary power to stop the killing.
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lol, are you for real ?
Kaddafi, Saddam, Assad were/ are like that ?
so why they did allow Daesh to grow and supported it indirectly for long 2 years... why they supported Al Qaida in 80's for long years, too ?
are you for real ?
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did I ever defend the terrorists?

my only defense was of islam, that is 1/4 of man kind, against cherry picked data that suits bigot agendas...islam has nothing to do with me at all, but I live on this planet, and I think that making 1/4 of mankind your enemy, because the media make $$$$ on it, a dumb mother fucker mistake...

the terroirists are just a bunch of idiots, but the bigger idiots are the ones who are doing exactly what the attacks are meant to do: create intolerance...the idiots are winning, and it is sad and amusing at the same time...
1/4 are not people,just like millions of animals on same planet are not people. Religion that is finding excuse to stone women,behead people,kill infidels and live like they are still in 11th century should not be treated like equal. We know that all snakes are not deadly but that doesn't mean that we all want them as pets.

Meanwhile in Belgium:

https://www.rt.com/news/337276-belgi...-guard-killed/

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I quote what people did and do. You reply with what they could. Then go on to compare a few deaths in the fight against the undemocratic IRA with Serbian undemocratic genocide.

Anyone can strap bombs to themselves and walk into a crowded mall, theatre, airport lounge. Muslims do, no one else does. Not even the IRA.
dude...

There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969?1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troub les_and_peace_process

in all seriousness, if the IRA had international support, the UK would have been a war zone...this was the only difference between yugo and the UK...dude I lived in the UK during the IRA attacks, we never ever had shit like you did...

you call the IRA undemocratic but I urge you to look at a map of ireland...notice how the top part obviously does not belong to england? you call THEM undemocratic?

i suppose the falklands belongs to the UK too? "democratically"?

pfffft
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well, actually the people that live there prefer to be part of UK, not Argentina...so....
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dude...

There were at least 10,000 bomb attacks during the conflict (1969?1998)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bombings_during_the_Northern_Ireland_Troub les_and_peace_process

in all seriousness, if the IRA had international support, the UK would have been a war zone...this was the only difference between yugo and the UK...dude I lived in the UK during the IRA attacks, we never ever had shit like you did...

you call the IRA undemocratic but I urge you to look at a map of ireland...notice how the top part obviously does not belong to england? you call THEM undemocratic?

i suppose the falklands belongs to the UK too? "democratically"?

pfffft
The IRA didn't have support? You might want to google that, you'll be surprised.

Jeez, half of northern ireland WANT to remain as part of the United Kingdom (NOT England!) thats why it was so hard to find a solution.

just who should own the Falklands "democratically" then? Considering they had avote a year or two back and only ONE PERSON there voted for argentinian rule.
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The IRA didn't have support? You might want to google that, you'll be surprised.

Jeez, half of northern ireland WANT to remain as part of the United Kingdom (NOT England!) thats why it was so hard to find a solution.

just who should own the Falklands "democratically" then? Considering they had avote a year or two back and only ONE PERSON there voted for argentinian rule.
the IRA did not get support like separatists in our country, if the whole world stood behind the IRA then the UK would be a war zone just like our ex country was...margaret thatcher would be a war criminal...

its very easy to turn a place in to a war zone...
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the IRA did not get support like separatists in our country, if the whole world stood behind the IRA then the UK would be a war zone just like our ex country was...margaret thatcher would be a war criminal...

its very easy to turn a place in to a war zone...
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