Piers Morgan Trump Interview. - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 03-26-2016, 07:43 AM

Watched the program and the clearest thing to come from it is his love affair with himself. Second was his belief in simple solutions that everyone with something to lose will accept.

For instance, his solution to terrorist attacks, like those in Paris and Brussels, is for everyone to carry arms. Stating Muslims don't do this in the US because everyone has guns. How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens and how many were committed by well-armed killers?

If you can't find it online, I have a copy you can watch.

Penny24Seven · 03-26-2016, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens

and how many were committed by well-armed killers?

If you can't find it online, I have a copy you can watch.

How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens 24

and how many were committed by well-armed killers? 15

Paul Markham · 03-26-2016, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens 24

and how many were committed by well-armed killers? 15

Do you have links to these?

Paul Markham · 03-26-2016, 08:18 AM

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12 Times Mass Shootings Were Stopped by Good Guys With Guns

A history of mass shootings in the US since Columbine - Telegraph

April 1999 - Two teenage schoolboys killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School
July 1999 - A stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife
September 1999 - A gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people
October 2002 - A series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.
August 2003 - In Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.
November 2004 - In Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others
March 2005 - A man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.
October 2006 - A truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines
April 2007 - Student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech
August 2007 - Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in “execution style”
December 2007 - A 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in Omaha, Nebraska.
December 2007 - A woman and her boyfriend shot dead six on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.
February 2008 - A shooter shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago
February 2008 - A man opened fire in Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students
July 2008 – A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College, Phoenix, Arizona.
September 2008 - a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.
October 2008 - Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.
December 2008 - A man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.
March 2009 - A 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.
March 2009 - A heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.
March 2009 - Six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.
April 2009 – An 18-year-old former student followed a pizza delivery man into his old dormitory, and shot the deliveryman, a dorm monitor, and himself at Hampton University, Virginia.
April 2009 - A man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.
July 2009 - Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University, Houston.
November 2009 - US army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.
February 2010 – A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others
January 2011 - a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people
July 2012 - James Holmes opens fire at midnight cinema screen of new Batman film killing 12 and injuring 58.
August 2012 - Gunman kills six people at Sikh temple in Wisconsin before being shot dead by police.
December 2012 - Adam Lanza forces his way into Sandy Hook, Connecticut. He kills 20 first-graders and six adults.
June 2013 - John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in a rampage
September 2013 - Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy man killed people were killed and three injured.
May 2014 - Elliot Rodger opens fire in the campus town of Isla Vista, killing seven people.
June 2015 - White supremacist, Dylann Roof, begins shooting in a historic black church. He kills nine people.
August 2015 - Vester Lee Flanagan II aka Bryce Williams shoots dead two former colleagues from the WDBJ7 news team.

Mass shooting in the UK since 1987 - 3

And Trump has the audacity to say Europe has a problem.

Helix · 03-26-2016, 10:12 AM

Dan Patrick says only two mass shootings since 1950 occurred outside of gun-free zones | PolitiFact Texas

Make sure you download and check the spreadsheet that is linked in the article.

bronco67 · 03-26-2016, 10:36 AM

Muslims don't plan terrorist attacks in the US because there are no giant Muslim communities for cells to develop and fester. They're mostly integrated into our culture, which is the best way to keep them from radicalizing in large groups, as well as a good way to keep an eye on the if needed. When you have giant neighborhoods full of Muslims that non-Muslims are afraid to venture into, then you have a problem.

These are the kind of details Trump can't grasp. We won't be having the same problem that Europe is experiencing. There's going to be the occasional wacko who is inspired by ISIS and carry out an attack, but nothing like what's been seen over there. You need sizable, organized terror cells to make that happen.

ReggieDurango · 03-26-2016, 10:39 AM

Piers won The Apprentice back in the day!

Joshua G · 03-26-2016, 11:27 AM

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And Trump has the audacity to say Europe has a problem.

paul!

your information suffers from selection bias. How about the texas security officer who shot 2 jihadis in the head, who were about to shoot up an allah cartoon meeting.

where are you paul about those lives that are not dead? how many dozens wouldve been saved had the texas security officer been in the brussels airport. how many more people woulda been dead in san bernadino had the police response been like paris? that theatre was shot up for what, an hour?

Maybe when the terrorist comes for you, you can swing a french bread at him or something.

pfft.

Joshua G · 03-26-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Muslims don't plan terrorist attacks in the US because there are no giant Muslim communities for cells to develop and fester. They're mostly integrated into our culture, which is the best way to keep them from radicalizing in large groups, as well as a good way to keep an eye on the if needed. When you have giant neighborhoods full of Muslims that non-Muslims are afraid to venture into, then you have a problem.

These are the kind of details Trump can't grasp. We won't be having the same problem that Europe is experiencing. There's going to be the occasional wacko who is inspired by ISIS and carry out an attack, but nothing like what's been seen over there. You need sizable, organized terror cells to make that happen.

you fucking dumb twat, we do have no-go zones in USA...its just black people not muslims, & those super-predators are killing like a dozen people a week in chicago alone. but since a liberal democrat runs chicago, you dont care. & since its black on black, you dont care.

name a republican run city that looks like baltimore, detroit, chicago, philly, the bronx, queens, brooklyn...

if we had the same percent muslims who hate USA like african americans, we would have the same problem, hands down. when a culture refuses to integrate, obsess about their race, you get chaos, regardless of country. the 1% of muslims here seek to integrate & the 12% of black people reject integration for their liberal PC "struggle." look at the economic status of muslims vs blacks as a result...

these are the kind of details dumb liberal bronco67 cant grasp.

ITraffic · 03-26-2016, 12:00 PM

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Muslims don't plan terrorist attacks in the US because there are no giant Muslim communities for cells to develop and fester. They're mostly integrated into our culture, which is the best way to keep them from radicalizing in large groups, as well as a good way to keep an eye on the if needed. When you have giant neighborhoods full of Muslims that non-Muslims are afraid to venture into, then you have a problem.

These are the kind of details Trump can't grasp. We won't be having the same problem that Europe is experiencing. There's going to be the occasional wacko who is inspired by ISIS and carry out an attack, but nothing like what's been seen over there. You need sizable, organized terror cells to make that happen.

There are no No-Go Zones in Europe. Most Muslims welcome people into their areas as they're customers. However, in the US there are many areas where White people fell unsafe, for very good reasons.

You are right about large areas dominated by Muslims, or other ethnic groups. Much like the US.

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

paul!

your information suffers from selection bias. How about the texas security officer who shot 2 jihadis in the head, who were about to shoot up an allah cartoon meeting.

where are you paul about those lives that are not dead? how many dozens wouldve been saved had the texas security officer been in the brussels airport. how many more people woulda been dead in san bernadino had the police response been like paris? that theatre was shot up for what, an hour?

Maybe when the terrorist comes for you, you can swing a french bread at him or something.

pfft.

Airports are controlled by armed soldiers and police officers. Having lots of armed people walking around an airport would make the job of the security forces 10 times harder.

Guns in the US: The statistics behind the violence - BBC News

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The statistics
Mass shootings: There were 372 mass shootings in the US in 2015, killing 475 people and wounding 1,870, according to the Mass Shooting Tracker, which catalogues such incidents. A mass shooting is defined as a single shooting incident which kills or injures four or more people, including the assailant.

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All shootings: Some 13,286 people were killed in the US by firearms in 2015, according to the Gun Violence Archive, and 26,819 people were injured [those figures exclude suicide]. Those figures are likely to rise by several hundred, once incidents in the final week of the year are counted.

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year
Country Total Homicides Suicides Unintentional Undetermined
United Kingdom 0.23 0.06 (2011) 0.15 (2011) 0.00 (2011) 0.02 (2011)
United States 10.54 3.43 (2014) 6.69 (2014) 0.18 (2014) 0.08 (2014)

Show us how having more guns saves more lives?

Americans have been pumped full of propaganda for decades and it's this that people like Trump rely on. Without it he would be exposed as a liar.

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

you fucking dumb twat, we do have no-go zones in USA...its just black people not muslims, & those super-predators are killing like a dozen people a week in chicago alone. but since a liberal democrat runs chicago, you dont care. & since its black on black, you dont care.

name a republican run city that looks like baltimore, detroit, chicago, philly, the bronx, queens, brooklyn...

if we had the same percent muslims who hate USA like african americans, we would have the same problem, hands down. when a culture refuses to integrate, obsess about their race, you get chaos, regardless of country. the 1% of muslims here seek to integrate & the 12% of black people reject integration for their liberal PC "struggle." look at the economic status of muslims vs blacks as a result...

these are the kind of details dumb liberal bronco67 cant grasp.

How would Republicans fund cities like baltimore, detroit, chicago, philly, the bronx, queens, brooklyn... in order to stop the gangs being so appealing to out of work, badly educated and very poor kids?

Were these cities like this when their jobs were in the US?

These are the kind of details dumb Republicans and Tea Partiers cant grasp. They refuse to see the cause of the problem.

Jigster715 · 03-27-2016, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

Muslims don't plan terrorist attacks in the US because there are no giant Muslim communities for cells to develop and fester. They're mostly integrated into our culture, which is the best way to keep them from radicalizing in large groups, as well as a good way to keep an eye on the if needed. When you have giant neighborhoods full of Muslims that non-Muslims are afraid to venture into, then you have a problem.

These are the kind of details Trump can't grasp. We won't be having the same problem that Europe is experiencing. There's going to be the occasional wacko who is inspired by ISIS and carry out an attack, but nothing like what's been seen over there. You need sizable, organized terror cells to make that happen.

You just need porous open borders that millions can walk through. That the US has.

Jigster715 · 03-27-2016, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There are no No-Go Zones in Europe. Most Muslims welcome people into their areas as they're customers. However, in the US there are many areas where White people fell unsafe, for very good reasons.

You are right about large areas dominated by Muslims, or other ethnic groups. Much like the US.

Thats just not true. There have been no-go zones in Paris and Marseilles for decades. Now those no-go zones are delivering troops. The mass migration promoted and prompted by liberal interests has also provided hundreds if not thousands of opportunities.

There are 30-40 million illegal residents of the US. How many do you think are potentially dangerous? More than a few.

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Helix

Dan Patrick says only two mass shootings since 1950 occurred outside of gun-free zones | PolitiFact Texas

Make sure you download and check the spreadsheet that is linked in the article.

There's no such places as gun-free zones in the US. Again more brainwashing from the NRA.

Think about before replying. The clue is Schengen.

wehateporn · 03-27-2016, 03:48 AM

Dvae · 03-27-2016, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There's no such places as gun-free zones in the US. Again more brainwashing from the NRA.

Think about before replying. The clue is Schengen.

Every school in the US is officially a Gun-Free zone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Fr...es_Act_of_1990

Barry-xlovecam · 03-27-2016, 06:28 AM

25,000 Sign Petition to Allow Guns at Republican National Convention - NBC News

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A petition to allow the open carry of firearms at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland had more than 25,000 signatures Saturday evening.

Ohio is an open-carry state, but Quicken Loans Arena, where the convention is set to be held, bans all weapons on the property. Ohio's concealed carry law allows private entities from banning firearms on their property, according to the arena's policies.

Speaks for itself pretty much -- the fear (or paranoia) runs deep ...

adulttraffic · 03-27-2016, 12:11 PM

My thoughts about piers has always been is why does he spend so much time critiquing usa and and how to shut him the fuck up and keep him in europe where he belongs.

bronco67 · 03-27-2016, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

you fucking dumb twat, we do have no-go zones in USA...its just black people not muslims, & those super-predators are killing like a dozen people a week in chicago alone. but since a liberal democrat runs chicago, you dont care. & since its black on black, you dont care.

name a republican run city that looks like baltimore, detroit, chicago, philly, the bronx, queens, brooklyn...

if we had the same percent muslims who hate USA like african americans, we would have the same problem, hands down. when a culture refuses to integrate, obsess about their race, you get chaos, regardless of country. the 1% of muslims here seek to integrate & the 12% of black people reject integration for their liberal PC "struggle." look at the economic status of muslims vs blacks as a result...

these are the kind of details dumb liberal bronco67 cant grasp.

Did I say anything about black neighborhoods? Anyway, black people have a unique experience in this country. Name one other ethnic group who were brought over in slave ships and made to work for nothing while being tortured killed and raped for 200 years? I'd say they're doing pretty well, considering that fact. But to people you, when you think of black people you think of the crime ridden ghettos of the US.

Are you one of those white guys who feels oppressed? I'm sorry to have offended you Sally.

But I don't engage in conversation with jerkoffs who don't understand the nuances of why African Americans are the way they are -- good or bad. It's not even part of this conversation anyway. They can't be compared to immigrants, because they're not. They're sewn into the fabric of this nation, dipshit. I'm not making an excuse for them. It's a bed our ancestors made that everyone else has to lie in now.

Ever think about how you would be if your peoples history in this country started out like that? It's funny that you took a factual comment about the absence of Muslim ghettos in the US to turn into a racist rant about African Americans.

I'm done talking to you asswipe.

MaDalton · 03-27-2016, 12:51 PM

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good thing Trump is uptodate with foreign politics and trade - imagine he had no clue what's going on...

MaDalton · 03-27-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

how many dozens wouldve been saved had the texas security officer been in the brussels airport.

zero

this is shortly before they blew themselves up - you want to shoot all passengers with a luggage cart now?

besides that: every EU airport now has police with machine guns already - you can see how helpful that is

but hey, let's give people more arms - maybe if Trump would have been there he could have shot them

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

How about the texas security officer who shot 2 jihadis in the head, who were about to shoot up an allah cartoon meeting.

This show's the level of thinking. Properly trained Security Guards, earn't members of the public.

Arming everyone would lead to more shooting and wouldn't stop terrorists and better.

Plus every bar fight, pavement dispute or car rage incident would risk gun violence.

Paul Markham · 03-27-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Every school in the US is officially a Gun-Free zone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun-Fr...es_Act_of_1990

So are there armed guards at every entry, every person is screened for guns before entering?

This is as effective as borders between States. I said think about it before replying.

Penny24Seven · 03-27-2016, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There are no No-Go Zones in Europe. Most Muslims welcome people into their areas as they're customers. However, in the US there are many areas where White people fell unsafe, for very good reasons.

You are right about large areas dominated by Muslims, or other ethnic groups. Much like the US.

Here we go with Paul talking about the US as if he lives here. When you say unsafe what do you mean? I have been in every area and sure if I drove through some black areas I might get looked at but nobody just pulls out guns and starts blowing you away lol.
Or some punk ass kids in Chicago who go around shooting each other. That is a small area where the blacks just kill the blacks fighting over some streets to sell their crack.
The other 99.9% are just fine.

Joshua G · 03-27-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This show's the level of thinking. Properly trained Security Guards, earn't members of the public.

Arming everyone would lead to more shooting and wouldn't stop terrorists and better.

Plus every bar fight, pavement dispute or car rage incident would risk gun violence.

problem with you is, you talk like you know about topics that you dont actually know about. You dont know the limits of your knowledge & talk out of your ass.

There are several southern states in USA where its gun free-for-alls. no permit, concealed carry, places where parents teach their 4 years olds to shoot.

guess what? texas does not have every bar fight & road rage turn into a gun battle. same with AZ, MT, on & on.

you make arbitrary comments with zero facts to back them up. typical left wing crapola. like i said, bring a french bread to a gun fight & see how you do.

PS my level of thinking is 5x your fairy tale fantasy lib land that lives only in your mind.

Paul Markham · 03-28-2016, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

Here we go with Paul talking about the US as if he lives here. When you say unsafe what do you mean? I have been in every area and sure if I drove through some black areas I might get looked at but nobody just pulls out guns and starts blowing you away lol.
Or some punk ass kids in Chicago who go around shooting each other. That is a small area where the blacks just kill the blacks fighting over some streets to sell their crack.
The other 99.9% are just fine.

Would you walk through those areas?

As you say talking about something I don't live. Bit like Trump and his statements.

Paul Markham · 03-28-2016, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

problem with you is, you talk like you know about topics that you dont actually know about. You dont know the limits of your knowledge & talk out of your ass.

There are several southern states in USA where its gun free-for-alls. no permit, concealed carry, places where parents teach their 4 years olds to shoot.

guess what? texas does not have every bar fight & road rage turn into a gun battle. same with AZ, MT, on & on.

you make arbitrary comments with zero facts to back them up. typical left wing crapola. like i said, bring a french bread to a gun fight & see how you do.

PS my level of thinking is 5x your fairy tale fantasy lib land that lives only in your mind.

The problem with Trump is he can get away with talking bullshit to an audience that can't see through it.

Like people who confuse the English language and mistake

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Plus every bar fight, pavement dispute or car rage incident would risk gun violence.

As meaning, they do end up as gun fights. Shows you live in a world where English is badly taught.

Yes, more properly trained armed security forces would help. But don't confuse that with arming dumbnuts because people in the 18th Century faced dangers that are no longer here. I believe it said, "well-armed militia" not dumbnuts who go to a gun show.

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Gun show loophole, gun law loophole, Brady law loophole (or Brady bill loophole), private sale loophole, or private sale exemption is a political term in the United States referring to sales of firearms by private sellers, including those done at gun shows, dubbed the "secondary market". The term refers to the viewpoint that there is an inadequacy in federal law, under which "[a]ny person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of the State where he resides as long as he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms".
Under federal law, private-party sellers are not required, nor are they permitted to perform background checks on buyers. They also are not required to record the sale, or ask for identification. This requirement is in contrast to sales by gun stores and other Federal Firearms License (FFL) holders who are required to record all sales and perform background checks on almost all buyers, regardless of whether the venue is their business location or a gun show. Access to the NICS background check system is limited to FFL holders and FFL's are not issued to persons that only sell firearms at gun shows.
A late 20th century report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) commissioned by then-president Bill Clinton stated that transactions and sales of firearms by private U.S. citizens contribute to illegal activities. Since the mid-1990s, gun control advocates have voiced concern over the perceived loophole in legislation, and campaigned to require background checks and record-keeping for all gun sales. Contrarily, gun rights advocates have stated the laws function as intended, and no loophole exists. They have contended that required background checks and record-keeping for private sales of firearms endanger Second Amendment rights, and exceed the government?s authority, regardless of the venue.

ITraffic · 03-28-2016, 05:16 AM

stop drinking and deal with your alcoholism.

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Originally Posted by Joshua G

problem with you is, you talk like you know about topics that you dont actually know about. You dont know the limits of your knowledge & talk out of your ass.

There are several southern states in USA where its gun free-for-alls. no permit, concealed carry, places where parents teach their 4 years olds to shoot.

guess what? texas does not have every bar fight & road rage turn into a gun battle. same with AZ, MT, on & on.

you make arbitrary comments with zero facts to back them up. typical left wing crapola. like i said, bring a french bread to a gun fight & see how you do.

PS my level of thinking is 5x your fairy tale fantasy lib land that lives only in your mind.

candyflip · 03-28-2016, 06:29 AM

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There's no such places as gun-free zones in the US. Again more brainwashing from the NRA.

Think about before replying. The clue is Schengen.

Says the English retard living in the Czech Republic.

You can find this around pretty much any school here in the US. But you wouldn't know that, you don't live here.

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This show's the level of thinking. Properly trained Security Guards, earn't members of the public.

They are most certainly civilians in the eyes of law enforcement and the military.

Matt-ADX · 03-28-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

A history of mass shootings in the US since Columbine - Telegraph

April 1999 - Two teenage schoolboys killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School
July 1999 - A stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife
September 1999 - A gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people
October 2002 - A series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.
August 2003 - In Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.
November 2004 - In Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others
March 2005 - A man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.
October 2006 - A truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines
April 2007 - Student Seung-Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech
August 2007 - Three Delaware State University students were shot and killed in ?execution style?
December 2007 - A 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in Omaha, Nebraska.
December 2007 - A woman and her boyfriend shot dead six on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.
February 2008 - A shooter shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago
February 2008 - A man opened fire in Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students
July 2008 ? A former student shot three people in a computer lab at South Mountain Community College, Phoenix, Arizona.
September 2008 - a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.
October 2008 - Several men in a car drove up to a dormitory at the University of Central Arkansas and opened fire, killing two students and injuring a third person.
December 2008 - A man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.
March 2009 - A 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.
March 2009 - A heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.
March 2009 - Six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.
April 2009 ? An 18-year-old former student followed a pizza delivery man into his old dormitory, and shot the deliveryman, a dorm monitor, and himself at Hampton University, Virginia.
April 2009 - A man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.
July 2009 - Six people, including one student, were shot in a drive-by shooting at a community rally on the campus of Texas Southern University, Houston.
November 2009 - US army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.
February 2010 ? A professor opened fire 50 minutes into at a Biological Sciences Department faculty meeting at the University of Alabama, killing three colleagues and wounding three others
January 2011 - a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people
July 2012 - James Holmes opens fire at midnight cinema screen of new Batman film killing 12 and injuring 58.
August 2012 - Gunman kills six people at Sikh temple in Wisconsin before being shot dead by police.
December 2012 - Adam Lanza forces his way into Sandy Hook, Connecticut. He kills 20 first-graders and six adults.
June 2013 - John Zawahri, an unemployed 23-year-old, kills five people in a rampage
September 2013 - Aaron Alexis, a Navy contractor and former Navy man killed people were killed and three injured.
May 2014 - Elliot Rodger opens fire in the campus town of Isla Vista, killing seven people.
June 2015 - White supremacist, Dylann Roof, begins shooting in a historic black church. He kills nine people.
August 2015 - Vester Lee Flanagan II aka Bryce Williams shoots dead two former colleagues from the WDBJ7 news team.

Mass shooting in the UK since 1987 - 3

And Trump has the audacity to say Europe has a problem.

This seems to omit terrorist mass shootings. Which would be the ''problem'' Trump is talking about.

Dvae · 03-28-2016, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So are there armed guards at every entry, every person is screened for guns before entering?

This is as effective as borders between States. I said think about it before replying.

Maybe not as such although pretty sure the higher risk ones do. Most have metal detectors. Try getting in to a government building specifically courthouses. All the ones I've been to since 911 you have to go through metal detectors.

Paul Markham · 03-29-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Says the English retard living in the Czech Republic.

You can find this around pretty much any school here in the US. But you wouldn't know that, you don't live here.

Signs don't stop guns. You wouldn't know that as you ...............

Paul Markham · 03-29-2016, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

This seems to omit terrorist mass shootings. Which would be the ''problem'' Trump is talking about.

Agreed. I'm pointing out that he doesn't give Americans the same advice about America. And wants to keep gun laws as open as possible. If he's concerned about American lives, he needs to address the real reason so many die unnecessarily every day.

Paul Markham · 03-29-2016, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Maybe not as such although pretty sure the higher risk ones do. Most have metal detectors. Try getting in to a government building specifically courthouses. All the ones I've been to since 911 you have to go through metal detectors.

95 school shootings since Sandy Hook.

As I said signs aren't working.

SomeCreep · 03-29-2016, 01:16 AM

Trump is a bully.

candyflip · 03-29-2016, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Signs don't stop guns. You wouldn't know that as you ...............

There are laws to back those signs up. You're not saying that gun laws don't stop guns, are you? That seems quite the opposite of your typical anti gun rant.

Paul Markham · 03-29-2016, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

There are laws to back those signs up. You're not saying that gun laws don't stop guns, are you? That seems quite the opposite of your typical anti gun rant.

LAWS DON'T STOP CRIME.

Better gun laws would reduce the death toll. For instance, limit it to single shot guns, as it was at the time the Second Amendment was written. Make sure the checks are rigorous and people aren't allowed to build up arsenals. Go back to what the Second Amendment says a well-organised militia.

They won't stop gun crime, as no law stops any crime. Their aim is to reduce it.

I love it when those who don't think things through reply. Are you voting for Trump?

Barry-xlovecam · 03-29-2016, 06:13 AM

Stop exporting cheap ammunition and firearms from the Czech Republic to the world market -- including the USA.

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Manufacturer of ammunition Sellier & Bellot - Vá? výrobce st?eliva ? Sellier & Bellot
Sellier & Bellot is among the oldest trademarks. It was listed in Prague in 1893 and also registered in Vienna and Berlin. This trademark covers the whole range of sporting and hunting ammunition and machinery and equipment for ammunition manufacture. The company owns 21 trademarks registered in 75 countries around the world. In the 1990s, the company was one of the world's leading manufacturers of handgun ammunition in terms of both volume and product range.

Armament industry

One of the reasons Hitler took the Czech Republic was to control its very large arms industry for his war production.

Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta of Italy can stop making handguns in the USA any time they want to ...
Beretta breaks ground on $45 million Gallatin plant

This is like the drug dealer preaching the evils of drug addiction

Grapesoda · 03-29-2016, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Watched the program and the clearest thing to come from it is his love affair with himself. Second was his belief in simple solutions that everyone with something to lose will accept.

For instance, his solution to terrorist attacks, like those in Paris and Brussels, is for everyone to carry arms. Stating Muslims don't do this in the US because everyone has guns. How many mass shooting in the US were stopped by well-armed citizens and how many were committed by well-armed killers?

If you can't find it online, I have a copy you can watch.

no body gives a fuck about piers

Yanks_Todd · 03-29-2016, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

zero

this is shortly before they blew themselves up - you want to shoot all passengers with a luggage cart now?

besides that: every EU airport now has police with machine guns already - you can see how helpful that is

but hey, let's give people more arms - maybe if Trump would have been there he could have shot them

Wow how does MaDalton taste?

Paul Markham · 03-29-2016, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Stop exporting cheap ammunition and firearms from the Czech Republic to the world market -- including the USA.

Armament industry

One of the reasons Hitler took the Czech Republic was to control its very large arms industry for his war production.

Fabbrica d'Armi Pietro Beretta of Italy can stop making handguns in the USA any time they want to ...
Beretta breaks ground on $45 million Gallatin plant

This is like the drug dealer preaching the evils of drug addiction

Where's the biggest arms dealing country in the world?

Dvae · 03-29-2016, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul markham

laws don't stop crime.

?

Guns don"t kill people!

Barry-xlovecam · 03-29-2016, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Where's the biggest arms dealing country in the world?

according to the BBC

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The 10 largest exporters of major weapons
Country Share of global exports 2010-14
US 31%
Russia 27%
China 5%
Germany 5%
France 5%
UK 4%
Spain 3%
Italy 3%
Ukraine 3%
Israel 2%

EU countries together 20%

China becomes the world's third largest arms exporter - BBC News

Pot meet kettle.

Barry-xlovecam · 03-29-2016, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

according to the BBC

EU countries together 20%

China becomes the world's third largest arms exporter - BBC News

Pot meet kettle.

More Specific to handguns

11 Biggest Gun Producing Countries in the World - Insider Monkey

Small armament manufacturing stats
Small Arms Survey -Industrial Production

Paul Markham · 03-30-2016, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dvae

Guns don"t kill people!

They kill more people easier than knives. So a limit on who owns one and the power of the gun is sensible.

Barry, it's more about gun ownership.

Guns per capita
United States 112.6

Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year
United States 10.54

If Trump wants to keep Americans safe, he should address their biggest risks. Like gun ownership. Not say Americans are unsafe in Europe. When they're less safe in America.

Unless he advises them to not visit California, Texas, Florida, etc. Gun violence in the United States by state.

pimpmaster9000 · 03-30-2016, 02:56 AM

@paul

most americans have never been anywhere and they do not believe you when you say that europe is much much safer than the USA

it simply does not compute with them...its like telling a north korean that north korea is not the light of the world...

trump logic: a terrorist is not afraid to blow himself up but he shits himself when he sees a fat guy with a gun

Dvae · 03-30-2016, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

They kill more people easier than knives. So a limit on who owns one and the power of the gun is sensible.

Knives don't kill people either.
Both are inanimate objects.

Mutt · 03-30-2016, 05:11 AM

Most of these 'mass shootings' in the US are drug/gang related that take place in the ghettos - sad but there's nothing that can be done. it's not a white problem, it's a black problem and only they can solve it, by taking back their communities from the thugs, and more than anything stop their young men from impregnating females by the dozens and abandoning them to raise those kids on their own at 15 years old. the problem would go away if there was a father involved in their lives who set a good example and when the kid said 'I don't gotta go to no damn school ima be in the NBA or a rapper' the father slapped the idiocy out the kid.

As the 1st black president that's something Barack Obama actually could have tried to tackle head on where a white president can't but he's been a total disappointment, blacks don't even think of him as black now.

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