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Old 04-22-2016, 06:38 PM   #1
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Political related murders (and exile) in the Netherlands (Trump critics, learn from this)

The politically correct hate reality. They see reality as the aggressor. But lets look at the facts in the Netherlands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
Murdered
Professor, author and Dutch politician, aspiring prime minister, who criticized islam with logical, sober arguments we as westerners all cannot deny, killed by Volkert van der Graaf in 2002. A leftwing extremist probably influenced by propaganda of mainstream media and corrupt politicians, possibly connected to them.
Fortuyn was killed 9 days before the elections, he was the favorite in winning it. The establishment successfully stopped him with widespread mainstream media hate campaigns using PC and extreme leftwing hate, breeding and brainwashing people like the killer. Looking at the facts, it is highly assumed the killer was connected to the parties of the establishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_v...(film_director)
Murdered
Liberal, in the Dutch sense of the word (pro freedom of speech and logical thinker, which is the opposite of American libbies, who are leftwing extremists, white guilt ridden apologists who are the most illogical thinkers in the world), director and interviewer. Highly ciritical of the multi cultural society with people from islamic heritage. Claimed we as a western society cannot coexist with people from Islam for the simple fact that islam hates anyone who is a non believer. Yes, i said fact.
Killed in 2004 by Mohammed Bouyeri of the religion of peace.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali
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Author, politician and Somalian immigrant who suffered mutilation of her genitalia in the name of Islam. Due to this direct, barbaric experience with Islam she worked together with Theo van Gogh to make movies criticizing this ideology to make people aware of the medieval practices of it.
Moved to the United States because (quote):
"The political islam made my life in the Netherlands impossible. If it weren't for the political islam, I would almost be sure I would still be Dutch now."


These are the only political related murders and an exile in this country. Do you notice what they have in common? After these murders, the Netherlands got a new saying.

"The bullet always comes from left."

Read about Pim Fortuyn especially. It was 14 years ago that he was killed. The parallels with Trump are eerie to say the least. Trump is getting the same treatment of the corrupt mainstream media as Fortuyn did here in 2002. They didn't stop until he was dead. 9 days before the elections.

History repeats itself. Wake up.
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Great Post

Rational Thought has met it's match in the from of political correctness and Reality itself is not safe.

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Rational Thought has met it's match in the from of political correctness and Reality itself is not safe.

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Claimed we as a western society cannot coexist with people from Islam for the simple fact that islam hates anyone who is a non believer. Yes, i said fact.


yet islam peacefully coexists in 100-s of countries with no incidents at all, 22 percent of the world population practices islam and only a tiny fraction of them are intolerant...there are mosques in israel LOL...

I have never met a muslim who hated me and I have met thousands...did business with them, lived for 2 years in a muslim country, identified myself as a complete non believer, nobody gave a shit <---this

oh and lets not forget that it is the actually the USA that drops 99.999% of the worlds bombs and does most of the terrorism...lets forget that completely...lets blame islam
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yet islam peacefully coexists in 100-s of countries with no incidents at all
Since there are hundreds, name 5 countries where a Muslim "extremist" hasn't killed someone based on their religion or ideology. They kill Christians in the Phillipines, India, etc.

So list 5 countries where there are no incidents at all please.
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Since there are hundreds, name 5 countries where a Muslim "extremist" hasn't killed someone based on their religion or ideology. They kill Christians in the Phillipines, India, etc.

So list 5 countries where there are no incidents at all please.
Peru
Chili
Colombia
Suriname (a mosque and a jewish church lay next to each other)
Brazil
Argentina
Uruguay
Paraguay
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Mexico
Venezuela
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suriname
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Since there are hundreds, name 5 countries where a Muslim "extremist" hasn't killed someone based on their religion or ideology. They kill Christians in the Phillipines, India, etc.

So list 5 countries where there are no incidents at all please.

there is a mosque in every country in the world I think...its 1/4 of humanity...your argument is complete bull shit, I say this based on the real world we actually live in and not cherry picked bigot propaganda that is the alter reality you choose to believe in...

walk in to a mosque in your country and ask if they hate you...you will not do this of course because you know I am 100% right...it would be devastating to your arguments to ask an authority...
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in countries where 99 % of population is christian...it would be a a real suicide (no pun intented) for Muslims to cause problems over there....
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in countries where 99 % of population is christian...it would be a a real suicide (no pun intented) for Muslims to cause problems over there....
Yup.. notice something else... those countries are all in south america... not exactly the refuge of choice for economic migrants from the middle east.
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yet islam peacefully coexists in 100-s of countries with no incidents at all, 22 percent of the world population practices islam and only a tiny fraction of them are intolerant...there are mosques in israel LOL...

I have never met a muslim who hated me and I have met thousands...did business with them, lived for 2 years in a muslim country, identified myself as a complete non believer, nobody gave a shit <---this

oh and lets not forget that it is the actually the USA that drops 99.999% of the worlds bombs and does most of the terrorism...lets forget that completely...lets blame islam
- in a survey amongst Turkish-Dutch youth, 80% said they support IS for using violence against people who do not believe in islam.
- Maroccan kids cheer and laugh in classes when for instance Paris and later Brussels was hit. Mainstream media never reports this due to their pro-immigration agenda.

Because of another wave of pro IS tweets by Dutch muslim kids after the Brussels attacks, a guy tweeted: "How do you teach a class full of clapping and cheering kids?"
A couple of hours later 3 policemen visited him. This is the society we live in, guys. You can cheer, clap and dance when a bomb kills people. But criticizing those poor minorities when they do this will get you a visit from the cops. This is western European policy for more than 20 years now.


Note: These kids are born here. They go to school here, they use free healthcare here, like everyone else. They do not have it bad. One thing is different: They get brainwashed since birth that we are infidels.
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Yup.. notice something else... those countries are all in south america... not exactly the refuge of choice for economic migrants from the middle east.
I thought i won a price by naming even 10 countries.
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right now a Dutch journalist who is in Turkey is arrested by the Turkish police because of one tweet about fascist dictator and IS business partner Erdogan.

Just read the tweet with loads of reactions: Dutch twitter names all say its ridiculous. Dutch people with muslim twitter names are, ofcourse, cheering. Completely the opposite of Dutch values and the importance of freedom of speech.

Just another quick, live, example.
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Peru
Chili
Colombia
Suriname (a mosque and a jewish church lay next to each other)
Brazil
Argentina
Uruguay
Paraguay
Guyana
Panama
Mexico
Venezuela
Cuba

suriname
Synagoge + moskee
Right, shit holes no one wants to go to. LOL

BTW: "Liberal thinking" in The Netherlands is the same as good old fashioned American Conservatism.

Interesting in a country with "liberal" views on drugs and whores.

PS: Fuck Serbia.

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- in a survey amongst Turkish-Dutch youth, 80% said they support IS for using violence against people who do not believe in islam.
- Maroccan kids cheer and laugh in classes when for instance Paris and later Brussels was hit. Mainstream media never reports this due to their pro-immigration agenda.

Because of another wave of pro IS tweets by Dutch muslim kids after the Brussels attacks, a guy tweeted: "How do you teach a class full of clapping and cheering kids?"
A couple of hours later 3 policemen visited him. This is the society we live in, guys. You can cheer, clap and dance when a bomb kills people. But criticizing those poor minorities when they do this will get you a visit from the cops. This is western European policy for more than 20 years now.


Note: These kids are born here. They go to school here, they use free healthcare here, like everyone else. They do not have it bad. One thing is different: They get brainwashed since birth that we are infidels.
Sorry I missed this post. I was not being snarky towards the Dutch in my comments above. I stand with you on your views.

How Muslim kids, born and raised in Holland, can look at their neighbors as 'infidels' who should be slaughtered is sickening to me and the main reason I support mass deportation.
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as I suspected nobody wants to ask an authority

pffft to op-s arguments
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yet islam peacefully coexists in 100-s of countries with no incidents at all
Pigsticker, there are only 196 countries on the planet at this current time, which 100-s are you referring to in your backwards bullshit fabrications of the moronic kind

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Any of the ones he escaped to after he fled Serbia like a bitch.
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The politically correct hate reality. They see reality as the aggressor. But lets look at the facts in the Netherlands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
Murdered
Professor, author and Dutch politician, aspiring prime minister, who criticized islam with logical, sober arguments we as westerners all cannot deny, killed by Volkert van der Graaf in 2002. A leftwing extremist probably influenced by propaganda of mainstream media and corrupt politicians, possibly connected to them.
Fortuyn was killed 9 days before the elections, he was the favorite in winning it. The establishment successfully stopped him with widespread mainstream media hate campaigns using PC and extreme leftwing hate, breeding and brainwashing people like the killer. Looking at the facts, it is highly assumed the killer was connected to the parties of the establishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_v...(film_director)
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Liberal, in the Dutch sense of the word (pro freedom of speech and logical thinker, which is the opposite of American libbies, who are leftwing extremists, white guilt ridden apologists who are the most illogical thinkers in the world), director and interviewer. Highly ciritical of the multi cultural society with people from islamic heritage. Claimed we as a western society cannot coexist with people from Islam for the simple fact that islam hates anyone who is a non believer. Yes, i said fact.
Killed in 2004 by Mohammed Bouyeri of the religion of peace.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali
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Author, politician and Somalian immigrant who suffered mutilation of her genitalia in the name of Islam. Due to this direct, barbaric experience with Islam she worked together with Theo van Gogh to make movies criticizing this ideology to make people aware of the medieval practices of it.
Moved to the United States because (quote):
"The political islam made my life in the Netherlands impossible. If it weren't for the political islam, I would almost be sure I would still be Dutch now."


These are the only political related murders and an exile in this country. Do you notice what they have in common? After these murders, the Netherlands got a new saying.

"The bullet always comes from left."

Read about Pim Fortuyn especially. It was 14 years ago that he was killed. The parallels with Trump are eerie to say the least. Trump is getting the same treatment of the corrupt mainstream media as Fortuyn did here in 2002. They didn't stop until he was dead. 9 days before the elections.

History repeats itself. Wake up.

So why should Trump critics need to learn anything? You planning on murdering people? Also..why don't you worry about fixing your own problems in your own country and stop worrying about someone who hasn't even got a nomination much less been elected..

You spend all day on gfy babbling about Trump, while your home country turns to shit.. go figure...
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Finland ? dont know...but here in Spain Moroccans or Arabs dont stand out that much from the crowd, as basically every Spaniard is Arab by genes in 20-30 %
and Pakistanis here ? hard working, legal people that cause no troubles
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I would prefer to live in any of said places (maybe except Venezuela) than in New York
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Pim_Fortuyn was killed by some animal rights nutter no?

I was living in Volendam at the time, I remember it.


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Really depends what part of Spain you are in, in the north you dont see it. The Moors didn't get up this far.
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So why should Trump critics need to learn anything? You planning on murdering people? Also..why don't you worry about fixing your own problems in your own country and stop worrying about someone who hasn't even got a nomination much less been elected..

You spend all day on gfy babbling about Trump, while your home country turns to shit.. go figure...
'are you planning on murdering people', wow, this much spin is a really good skill. How the hell you come to that conclusion, it's a riddle to anyone reading this thread.

Idiot, let me explain: Media demonized these people with ongoing hate campaigns, especially in Fortuyns case. It was a crazy bitter hate campaign, while he was the only one telling it like it is. Result is he is dead.

I see in the media in the US that it is happening again. It's exactly the same as it was here in Holland, it's like a rerun only the person is different. The propaganda is sickening and downright dangerous. It's propaganda on steroids, breeding people who will hate Trump more and more because of the lies they believe. You wouldn't believe how many people still believe anything they are told when it is on TV or in the newspaper.

That's why a say Trump critics learn from this: Don't believe it, be a free thinker, wake up. Don't step blindly on that hate train just because the media is telling you to.
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while working online..........
The key phrase is "while working online". Third world shitholes are fine for those not tied to the local economy. If you are then you'd take New York in a heartbeat.
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Right, shit holes no one wants to go to. LOL
I had Spanish class in Mexico with a refugee from Syria. He first went to Brazil and than Mexico. Cause with a Syrian passport you can't travel to most countries. That is also a reason Syrian people cheapest and easiest option is to go to Europe. Everyday he looked at internet to found out of hes neighbourhood was bombed. He had pictures of his neighborhood, hardly any house wasn't bombed.

It was a nice guy and was in the army of assad and almost all his friends died. There where like 5 different army's fighting and they didn't know who was friend or enemy anymore. He wanted to go to America or europe, i advised USA or stay in Mexico. That's cause i explained him what was happening in Holland and Germany where more and more people don't want refugees and can't handle it. In Mexico he could start over without all cultural problesm, people from a mexican church gave him food and a place to stay. There was a man from the USA embassy and heard the story and helped him for a visa to USA. He was a cristian btw.

Doesn't look like a shithole to me where i am staying:
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try to buy a flat in New York or London if you are "tied" to the local economy and earn average salary.....
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soon I will visit the north...anyway, I think that all genes got mixed during centuries..people from south were moving to north and vice versa.....but yeah, in the south you see it more
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some people "prefer" to stay in 1rd world New York, in 20m2 flat with cockroaches and pay for it more than you would pay for mansion in that place that you posted.......
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You beat me to it. LOL

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I had Spanish class in Mexico with a refugee from Syria. He first went to Brazil and than Mexico. Cause with a Syrian passport you can't travel to most countries. That is also a reason Syrian people cheapest and easiest option is to go to Europe. Everyday he looked at internet to found out of hes neighbourhood was bombed. He had pictures of his neighborhood, hardly any house wasn't bombed.

It was a nice guy and was in the army of assad and almost all his friends died. There where like 5 different army's fighting and they didn't know who was friend or enemy anymore. He wanted to go to America or europe, i advised USA or stay in Mexico. That's cause i explained him what was happening in Holland and Germany where more and more people don't want refugees and can't handle it. In Mexico he could start over without all cultural problesm, people from a mexican church gave him food and a place to stay. There was a man from the USA embassy and heard the story and helped him for a visa to USA. He was a cristian btw.

Doesn't look like a shithole to me where i am staying:
Don't let the sunshine fool you. See all those bums hanging out? I could buy and sell their entire families. LOL Dominican Republic has nice beaches too but you couldn't pay me to live in that shit stain of a country.

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some people "prefer" to stay in 1rd world New York, in 20m2 flat with cockroaches and pay for it more than you would pay for mansion in that place that you posted.......
You've obviously never been to New York. I live in a nice big one bedroom (rent controlled so affordable) apartment. But please, try and win the argument that any country listed here is better than living in New York City. LOL Good luck with that!
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:57 AM   #31
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like I said: while working online I would prefer to live in any countries posted before (except venezuela maybe ;-)... with some luck though it could be bargain and interesting) than in big city like New York, Moscow, Mexico City, Bangkok whatever.....
however, I would love to visit LA :-)

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You've obviously never been to New York. I live in a nice big one bedroom (rent controlled so affordable) apartment. But please, try and win the argument that any country listed here is better than living in New York City. LOL Good luck with that!
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:04 AM   #32
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if you have no opportunities in your country/ village, you move there and start working as a truck driver, taxi driver or coke-selling Bobo on the corner ;-)
so yeah, its "better"
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But please, try and win the argument that any country listed here is better than living in New York City. LOL Good luck with that!
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:05 AM   #33
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You beat me to it. LOL



Don't let the sunshine fool you. See all those bums hanging out? I could buy and sell their entire families. LOL Dominican Republic has nice beaches too but you couldn't pay me to live in that shit stain of a country.
Dont' think they want to sell, they are happy what they are doing. Relaxing, sellling beer renting out hammocks and talking about woman and sports.

Big cities are nice for a while. But in the end i just want a quiet beach/island and good internet and some good bars with latin music. There are thousands of people working online while travelling to these places. I meet them in Thailand and see them back in Colombia. Haven't seen New York yet, high on my list, but only for a few months.

Also nice to relax without all the people complaining about politics. I will see what will happen here, government has many problems and maybe extreme evangelist people will take over. They have their own army already... if that happens, i just move on.. While if you are in Holland and want to stay there you can complain for years, nothing will change anyway. In Holland there is 1 fart about muslims and everybody gets crazy. But nothing will change cause in the end people vote for the same politicians.
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if you have no opportunities in your country/ village, you move there and start working as a truck driver, taxi driver or coke-selling Bobo on the corner ;-)
so yeah, its "better"
Wow you need to get some bigger dreams. LOL New York is the center of the universe. People come here to succeed and strike it rich, not drive trucks or taxis. Nothing wrong with blue collar work, it's honest and needed. But most New Yorkers aspire to better lives than driving trucks or selling drugs.

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Dont' think they want to sell, they are happy what they are doing. Relaxing, sellling beer renting out hammocks and talking about woman and sports.

Big cities are nice for a while. But in the end i just want a quiet beach/island and good internet and some good bars with latin music. There are thousands of people working online while travelling to these places. I meet them in Thailand and see them back in Colombia. Haven't seen New York yet, high on my list, but only for a few months.

Also nice to relax without all the people complaining about politics. I will see what will happen here, government has many problems and maybe extreme evangelist people will take over. They have their own army already... if that happens, i just move on.. While if you are in Holland and want to stay there you can complain for years, nothing will change anyway. In Holland there is 1 fart about muslims and everybody gets crazy. But nothing will change cause in the end people vote for the same politicians.
I actually agree with your views (and others here) about traveling and working online. I do it myself. In fact, the truth is if I didn't have family here in NYC I would probably live on a beach somewhere and we could discuss this in a hammock over some beers. LOL

The Internet has changed everything and if you work "online" then you indeed have total freedom. Someday I will retire to your fine looking beach!
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'are you planning on murdering people', wow, this much spin is a really good skill. How the hell you come to that conclusion, it's a riddle to anyone reading this thread.

Idiot, let me explain: Media demonized these people with ongoing hate campaigns, especially in Fortuyns case. It was a crazy bitter hate campaign, while he was the only one telling it like it is. Result is he is dead.

I see in the media in the US that it is happening again. It's exactly the same as it was here in Holland, it's like a rerun only the person is different. The propaganda is sickening and downright dangerous. It's propaganda on steroids, breeding people who will hate Trump more and more because of the lies they believe. You wouldn't believe how many people still believe anything they are told when it is on TV or in the newspaper.

That's why a say Trump critics learn from this: Don't believe it, be a free thinker, wake up. Don't step blindly on that hate train just because the media is telling you to.
The entire flaw in your thinking, is you seem to think Trump critics arent basing their opinions on their own thoughts but rather the medias..

You are trying to say people should be free thinkers , but only if they agree with you...That's not being a free thinker but rather being part of a hive mind.

I made up my own mind that I thought Trump was a jack ass. I didn't need to media to do it for me, I listened to his own words and could spot it right away that he has no real plans but just says what is popular to the groups he targets. He is a typical politician just with radical views..
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Wow you need to get some bigger dreams. LOL New York is the center of the universe. People come here to succeed and strike it rich, not drive trucks or taxis. Nothing wrong with blue collar work, it's honest and needed. But most New Yorkers aspire to better lives than driving trucks or selling drugs.
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