MFC vrs Chaturbate

[FreeHugeMovies]

For the first time I visited Chaturbate yesterday. I was surprised with all the traffic, but the models are not the hottest.

I can't believe they have live couples sex 24/7.

Who do you think it turning out more cash?

[MikeAMS]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

I can't believe they have live couples sex 24/7.

Best thing since slice bread isn't it..

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by Mikey Verotel

Best thing since slice bread isn't it..

It's crazy what ppl will do for a few bucks. Suck dick for 7 hours for $300 bucks

But, what about the profits and traffic? That's what I'm curious about.

[Mediamix]

[ITraffic]

welcome to to the internet.

[iSpyCams]

For performers no reason to choose, setup splitcam and stream on both for tips, in my studio we do 10x with chaturbate what we do with MFC but the performers are shy about MFC cause they have been kind of trigger happy issuing fines, before they started doing that it was more like 66/33 chaturbate/MFC on the split.

For affiliates I recommend Chaturbate as well, since they actually have an affiliate program and MFC doesn't except through Crakrevenue. The Crak program is great, lots of people love it but I don't have direct experience with it so can't endorse it.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

For performers no reason to choose, setup splitcam and stream on both for tips, in my studio we do 10x with chaturbate what we do with MFC but the performers are shy about MFC cause they have been kind of trigger happy issuing fines, before they started doing that it was more like 66/33 chaturbate/MFC on the split.

For affiliates I recommend Chaturbate as well, since they actually have an affiliate program and MFC doesn't except through Crakrevenue. The Crak program is great, lots of people love it but I don't have direct experience with it so can't endorse it.

What can you get fined for?

[AllAboutCams]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

A waste of shoes

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

What can you get fined for?

Mostly reasonable stuff, but if you have a lot of models and no way to supervise them it can get out of hand. A lot of companies issue fines and negative incentives, but MFC is one company who will often not limit fines to amounts pending payment for a specific model. MFC can and will fine you all your earnings and more over one model's mistake.

I did recently fire my studio manager and replaced with someone much more professional, and we haven't had any fines since, so I am not saying the fines are wrong or anything, but I have models working for a lot of different sites and MFC is the only one issuing fines, so it's a level of risk that does not seem to be present elsewhere.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

Mostly reasonable stuff, but if you have a lot of models and no way to supervise them it can get out of hand. A lot of companies issue fines and negative incentives, but MFC is one company who will often not limit fines to amounts pending payment for a specific model. MFC can and will fine you all your earnings and more over one model's mistake.

I did recently fire my studio manager and replaced with someone much more professional, and we haven't had any fines since, so I am not saying the fines are wrong or anything, but I have models working for a lot of different sites and MFC is the only one issuing fines, so it's a level of risk that does not seem to be present elsewhere.

What determines a fine?

Pissing?

BG?

[j3rkules]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

What determines a fine?

Pissing?

BG?

This one is hilarious, direct from their Rules and Guidelines:
wiki.myfreecams.com/wiki/Rules_and_Guidelines

"Excessive consumption of alcohol or other legal or prescribed medicines or narcotics."

Note: "EXCESSIVE"...

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

What determines a fine?

Pissing?

BG?

pissing, lactation, definite no-no's. using the word "nasty" in your room topic, also not allowed apparently. (wasn't fined for that - just a warning)

Submitting an application for a model who was previously refused (as if you had any way of knowing) - a fine.

Them suddenly discovering an account they approved more than a year ago has an unacceptable ID (which you've never seen or had anything to do with) - big fine.

Also, unless you discuss it with the model and she admits it, there is no proof any of it ever happened; it's true because they said so, period.

It sounds really unfair and can be upsetting, but I have to say that since I hired more competent management I haven't been fined. So maybe there's something to it after all.

[Pipecrew]

Chaturbate may have more traffic but I think mfc has more whales. Those girls are PAID

How much are the top webcam girls making? - How are you BB

[Goethe]

Originally Posted by Pipecrew

Chaturbate may have more traffic but I think mfc has more whales. Those girls are PAID

How much are the top webcam girls making? - How are you BB

Which makes the PPS even more of a smack in the mouth.

[FreeHugeMovies]

Just noticed the massive traffic leaks on Chaturbate. Affiliates put up with that?

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Just noticed the massive traffic leaks on Chaturbate. Affiliates put up with that?

There are still affiliates? lol. Chaturbate still makes money, traffic leaks or no, -and based on split tests, good money at that.

At the end of the day, it's EPC, period. How much money somebody else makes with my traffic is irrelevant, it's only how much I make that matters to me.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

There are still affiliates? lol. Chaturbate still makes money, traffic leaks or no, -and based on split tests, good money at that.

At the end of the day, it's EPC, period. How much money somebody else makes with my traffic is irrelevant, it's only how much I make that matters to me.

"Traffic leaks" represent a lot of revenue for programs, and removing them will also affect the bottom line they are able to pay affiliates. Affiliates are more than free to send their traffic to whoever pays them what they feel the clicks are worth, it's not like there aren't a dozen cam programs beating down your door to get a share of traffic.

Especially ironic is if someone complains of a traffic leak while being paid money for nothing more than a confirmed email address.

[iSpyCams]

Originally Posted by fuzebox

"Traffic leaks" represent a lot of revenue for programs, and removing them will also affect the bottom line they are able to pay affiliates. Affiliates are more than free to send their traffic to whoever pays them what they feel the clicks are worth, it's not like there aren't a dozen cam programs beating down your door to get a share of traffic.

Especially ironic is if someone complains of a traffic leak while being paid money for nothing more than a confirmed email address.

I am aware of that, most people are as well. But what is more frequently overlooked, is that if you send 10k clicks to program a and make xx and 10k cliks to program b and make xxx then program b is better, period. Actual PPS amounts, traffic leaks etc. all are irrelevant at that point.

In my personal experience I have found Chaturbate to be a viable destination for traffic, moreso than other cams programs. Most likely just because it's newer, but another program with zero traffic leaks or other obvious issues that can't convert my traffic as well are useless as long as chaturbate keeps converting better.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

I am aware of that, most people are as well. But what is more frequently overlooked, is that if you send 10k clicks to program a and make xx and 10k cliks to program b and make xxx then program b is better, period. Actual PPS amounts, traffic leaks etc. all are irrelevant at that point.

In my personal experience I have found Chaturbate to be a viable destination for traffic, moreso than other cams programs. Most likely just because it's newer, but another program with zero traffic leaks or other obvious issues that can't convert my traffic as well are useless as long as chaturbate keeps converting better.

Hi, I'm agreeing with you

[Paul Markham]

Free live sex funded by advertising. Has to be the next step to Tubes. Who will be the first, or is it already a reality?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

For the first time I visited Chaturbate yesterday. I was surprised with all the traffic, but the models are not the hottest.

I can't believe they have live couples sex 24/7.

Who do you think it turning out more cash?

Why mention only these 2 companies, both free cams, although, all the professionals are relying on tips, tip shows or private cam with group & spies.

Recently I've been reviewing cam sites for several companies & can honestly say from a models POV, the "NAKED" network's the best cam site to work on with Camster & naked.com. They've been established since 1997 & have a nice layout on the site for both user & model.
They also have a huge amount of traffic & their models are a little more professional, not so many homeworkers & amateurs, also, good for referrers, they're offering affiliates great payouts of $75 pps at Freecamdollars

[Tdash]

MFC has better models but their interface looks terrible, looks like it was designed in the 90's, and just recently they got rid of their revshare option.

[slapass]

Not a huge cam guy. MFC does better with softcore traffic and hardcore to chaturbate. MFC probably has the other stuff but the main page is all just lookers who may or may not take their clothes off. Chaturbate has full on sex all the time on the main page.

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[FreeHugeMovies]

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[adultdirectory]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

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[georgeyw]

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[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by iSpyCams

I am aware of that, most people are as well. But what is more frequently overlooked, is that if you send 10k clicks to program a and make xx and 10k cliks to program b and make xxx then program b is better, period. Actual PPS amounts, traffic leaks etc. all are irrelevant at that point.

In my personal experience I have found Chaturbate to be a viable destination for traffic, moreso than other cams programs. Most likely just because it's newer, but another program with zero traffic leaks or other obvious issues that can't convert my traffic as well are useless as long as chaturbate keeps converting better.

Btw. off topic I was checking iSpyCams - is there an invite only option for affiliates?
Would be glad to hear more about the site, always looking for unsaturated products, if only to be able to recommend them. There may be also a certain way to advertise that could work with this.

Thanks for the business contributions to GFY btw. Should we connect the best way to reach me is skype: carlosprague