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dailydirt · 03-26-2003, 07:04 AM

Lensman,

From: Lensman
To: Rob Mac
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques

No problem, we'll get you covered. Consoles don't work with our program, we have to work harder than ever to turn a buck. They've always been against the program rules, but if a guy converted, we really didn't care.

So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid. On the Ibill thing, did you email them? They issue the checks.

Regards,

Lens

Payment has not arrived. Date : 26th March 2001

I've been contacting you and your company re various payment issues since August 2001, and have received less than a 100% payment result over this period. You have the numbers, payment is due
and now is the time to finalise the outstanding payments.

Lensman wrote ..
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: RE: cheques

Quote :
"No problem, we'll get you covered" "So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid"
Lens

Note : the links were taken down, and payment has not arrived.

Re the exit consoles, Lensmans program (per click program) attempted to cut my payment for allegedly breaking the rules -- however, via e-mail we discussed that i have sent traffic from the last console program (exit consoles) over a long period of time to the program/s in question -- i stated that if they "now had a problem, they should have contacted me within a reasonable amount of time, not weeks/months after the fact responding only to my missing check enquiries. Lensman replied with the below e-mail (previous post) acknowledgeing our understanding. He expressed he wanted to dis-continue my exit console links (which i did), and promised "Josh would make sure I was paid (note : payment hasn't arrived, approx 2.5 months later)

............................

DEBT RECOVERY

When payment is due or promised in this industry; in most cases a 2 week waiting period is sufficient. If you have not received payment within this time, you must contact the person or company. If they do not offer a reasonable explanation and in a reasonable amount of time, you most likely have a problem. Be dilligent with your follow up process and allow for reasonable response times which will give you the best chance of collecting the money. If you leave it too long, often the "persons memory conveniently fades and they begin to blame hate or criticise you or your company, regardless of the factual evidence. This is their mental fuel to avoid payment and their moral obligation. People do this more so in this industry because re-course is difficult due to geographic circumstances.

Some people would rather keep debt recovery in-house, which may mean accepting the loss. This way they dont hang out their dirty laundry in public, which is good business practise. Sayings apply such as : "look at the big picture" and "dont sweat the small stuff". However, if you want a result, you have to do something about it. My experience has been that when all communication efforts have been exhausted, message boards are the next most effective way to recover your money.

............................

Note : I've contacted Lensman and Hoax notifieing them of the hahahahahahaha posts. Their e-mail responses to the missing check queries are taking far too long to reply; they've been vague and drawn out. Perhaps they prefer to deal publicly.

Rob Mac ::: AdultContent.co.uk - Great British Content
Wed Mar 26 02:43:24 2003 - 210.50.217.83 - message #211126

maxjohan · 03-26-2003, 07:07 AM

follow the rules ...

Juicy D. Links · 03-26-2003, 07:09 AM

cheater

Machete_ · 03-26-2003, 07:10 AM

now you will get your money for sure

dailydirt · 03-26-2003, 07:21 AM

i just find it odd that he agreed to pay then did not

gornyhuy · 03-26-2003, 07:24 AM

A great way to settle business issues is to publicly slander the other party on his own forum.

fnet · 03-26-2003, 07:26 AM

Actually, from this post it looks like they bent over backwards for you.

Nice going.

Va2k · 03-26-2003, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ebus_dk
now you will get your money for sure

Ya know what, when I first started and didn't know shit about morals of webmasters I felt the same way you did! I didnt get paid when I thought I should of from lensman and I sent emails etc... Then one day the checks came as promised! BUT I MADE an ass of myself by comming to HIS board and posting LENSMAN and company cheated me looking back at that time I wish to this day I would of just kept quite! I Have found by keeping things private and between you and the company in question and not acting like a total NOOB you will get your money, maybe later then you like. Come to find out way down the road most of the money lensman owed me and the reason it was so late was due to me being a NOOB WHICH I STILL AM, but I screwed up had like 3 accounts at the time one account had the wrong info in it. SO it was my fault. NOT SAYING THIS IS what happened to you but just giving you my troubles when I first started*not saying you just started either*

People don't relize that guys like lensman pibcash ars topbucks are so FUCKING big that they get 1000's of emails problaly daily. If you were to run a webmaster program and got 1000's of emails daily then try to market your product build this build that working with this person working with that person YOU WILL FIND there is NOT enough time in a day/month to respond to, HELP everyone with a complaint. It may take a week two three etc... just to get a reply and going to a public board about this will only piss people off, make it longer to get paid and just all around is wrong. NOW IF you have been OUT RIGHT SCAMMED then yea let everyone know, but you even admitted you broke the rules, at least he and his company is willing to deal with you.
GO break a ARS rule just ONE see what happens!

This is just my

Good luck

TOM

Jer · 03-26-2003, 07:28 AM

You shouldn't do this.

12clicks · 03-26-2003, 07:38 AM

Looks like dailydirt's mommy gave him back his internet connection.

freeme · 03-26-2003, 08:04 AM

thats some fucked up shit

funkmaster · 03-26-2003, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
cheater

you calling robmac a cheater ??

funkmaster · 03-26-2003, 08:09 AM

... and why the hell is dailydirt posting rob´s email here ??

candyflip · 03-26-2003, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy
A great way to settle business issues is to publicly slander the other party on his own forum.

At about 6 am Cali time no less. Plenty of people will see and respond even before that adult.com crew is even awake to reply

freeme · 03-26-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... and why the hell is dailydirt posting rob´s email here ??

I think it was originaly posted on Net*ond BY rob mac

freeme · 03-26-2003, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

you calling robmac a cheater ??

funk,

I thought the same thing myself

TDF · 03-26-2003, 08:25 AM

12clicks · 03-26-2003, 08:30 AM

what ever happened to sponsorpost.com? couldn't pay the bandwidth bill with lies?

angeleyes · 03-26-2003, 08:35 AM

Smooth move ace........ post private emails on Lensmans board. This isn't going to be pretty.

funkmaster · 03-26-2003, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by freeme

I think it was originaly posted on Net*ond BY rob mac

... straigh up ??

freeme · 03-26-2003, 08:42 AM

funk

yeah I just read the pond

its there in black and white

ManKind · 03-26-2003, 09:06 AM

what ever happened to sponsorpost.com? couldn't pay the bandwidth bill with lies?

freeme · 03-26-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ManKind
what ever happened to sponsorpost.com? couldn't pay the bandwidth bill with lies?

he still seems to be alive and kickin

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=2785

freeme · 03-26-2003, 09:54 AM

Fraud Investigation Uptownwebhosting.com

How can ahost vanish without trace whilest owing 100's of dollars if not thousands, to webmasters?

What has happened to this host? Where have they gone to?

Any information is welcome.

http://www.sponsorfraud.com/thegate.htm

word ::: Dynamic, Aggressive, Fastforward: hahahahahahaha
Tue Mar 25 23:50:52 2003 - 62.64.167.89 - message #211123

Is this the same guy with a diff url?

Wizzo · 03-26-2003, 09:57 AM

I don't think this is money issue as much as a cheater issue and I'm willing to bet you really won't see the money now...

Smooth move cowboy!

Lensman · 03-26-2003, 10:04 AM

dailydirt, if someone has a problem with me, let THEM post. We don't deal with third parties.

Rob Mac majorly broke our rules, but we're taking care of him, as I said in your quote.

"Adult.com in trouble?" because some guy who majorly broke our rules is having a hard time getting a couple of hundred bucks? Your topic is more than misleading, it's slander, be happy if the only thing we do is ban you.

03-26-2003, 07:04 AM	#1
dailydirt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 92	Lensman isnt paying? Adult.com in trouble? Lensman, From: Lensman To: Rob Mac Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: RE: cheques No problem, we'll get you covered. Consoles don't work with our program, we have to work harder than ever to turn a buck. They've always been against the program rules, but if a guy converted, we really didn't care. So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid. On the Ibill thing, did you email them? They issue the checks. Regards, Lens Payment has not arrived. Date : 26th March 2001 I've been contacting you and your company re various payment issues since August 2001, and have received less than a 100% payment result over this period. You have the numbers, payment is due and now is the time to finalise the outstanding payments. Lensman wrote .. Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:04 PM Subject: RE: cheques Quote : "No problem, we'll get you covered" "So if you could take us off your consoles, I'd have Josh make sure you're paid" Lens Note : the links were taken down, and payment has not arrived. Re the exit consoles, Lensmans program (per click program) attempted to cut my payment for allegedly breaking the rules -- however, via e-mail we discussed that i have sent traffic from the last console program (exit consoles) over a long period of time to the program/s in question -- i stated that if they "now had a problem, they should have contacted me within a reasonable amount of time, not weeks/months after the fact responding only to my missing check enquiries. Lensman replied with the below e-mail (previous post) acknowledgeing our understanding. He expressed he wanted to dis-continue my exit console links (which i did), and promised "Josh would make sure I was paid (note : payment hasn't arrived, approx 2.5 months later) ............................ DEBT RECOVERY When payment is due or promised in this industry; in most cases a 2 week waiting period is sufficient. If you have not received payment within this time, you must contact the person or company. If they do not offer a reasonable explanation and in a reasonable amount of time, you most likely have a problem. Be dilligent with your follow up process and allow for reasonable response times which will give you the best chance of collecting the money. If you leave it too long, often the "persons memory conveniently fades and they begin to blame hate or criticise you or your company, regardless of the factual evidence. This is their mental fuel to avoid payment and their moral obligation. People do this more so in this industry because re-course is difficult due to geographic circumstances. Some people would rather keep debt recovery in-house, which may mean accepting the loss. This way they dont hang out their dirty laundry in public, which is good business practise. Sayings apply such as : "look at the big picture" and "dont sweat the small stuff". However, if you want a result, you have to do something about it. My experience has been that when all communication efforts have been exhausted, message boards are the next most effective way to recover your money. ............................ Note : I've contacted Lensman and Hoax notifieing them of the hahahahahahaha posts. Their e-mail responses to the missing check queries are taking far too long to reply; they've been vague and drawn out. Perhaps they prefer to deal publicly. Rob Mac ::: AdultContent.co.uk - Great British Content Wed Mar 26 02:43:24 2003 - 210.50.217.83 - message #211126

03-26-2003, 07:24 AM	#6
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	A great way to settle business issues is to publicly slander the other party on his own forum. __________________ icq:159548293

03-26-2003, 07:26 AM	#7
fnet Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Actually, from this post it looks like they bent over backwards for you. Nice going. __________________ the sound of one hand googlewhacking

03-26-2003, 07:38 AM	#10
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	Looks like dailydirt's mommy gave him back his internet connection. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-26-2003, 08:25 AM	#17
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03-26-2003, 07:07 AM	#2
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	follow the rules ... __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

03-26-2003, 07:09 AM	#3
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	cheater

03-26-2003, 07:10 AM	#4
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	now you will get your money for sure

03-26-2003, 07:21 AM	#5
dailydirt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 92	i just find it odd that he agreed to pay then did not

03-26-2003, 07:28 AM	#9
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	You shouldn't do this.

03-26-2003, 08:04 AM	#11
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	thats some fucked up shit

03-26-2003, 08:09 AM	#13
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... and why the hell is dailydirt posting rob´s email here ??

03-26-2003, 08:30 AM	#18
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	what ever happened to sponsorpost.com? couldn't pay the bandwidth bill with lies? __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

03-26-2003, 08:35 AM	#19
angeleyes Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wandering around FL using random Wireless Connections Posts: 3,584	Smooth move ace........ post private emails on Lensmans board. This isn't going to be pretty. __________________ Need a Writer? Contact Me. I write quality descriptions, short erotic stories, quality one-liners.. whatever you need.

03-26-2003, 08:42 AM	#21
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	funk yeah I just read the pond its there in black and white

03-26-2003, 09:06 AM	#22
ManKind So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 73	what ever happened to sponsorpost.com? couldn't pay the bandwidth bill with lies?

03-26-2003, 09:54 AM	#24
freeme Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 924	Fraud Investigation Uptownwebhosting.com How can ahost vanish without trace whilest owing 100's of dollars if not thousands, to webmasters? What has happened to this host? Where have they gone to? Any information is welcome. http://www.sponsorfraud.com/thegate.htm word ::: Dynamic, Aggressive, Fastforward: hahahahahahaha Tue Mar 25 23:50:52 2003 - 62.64.167.89 - message #211123 Is this the same guy with a diff url?

03-26-2003, 09:57 AM	#25
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	I don't think this is money issue as much as a cheater issue and I'm willing to bet you really won't see the money now... Smooth move cowboy! __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

03-26-2003, 10:04 AM	#26
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	dailydirt, if someone has a problem with me, let THEM post. We don't deal with third parties. Rob Mac majorly broke our rules, but we're taking care of him, as I said in your quote. "Adult.com in trouble?" because some guy who majorly broke our rules is having a hard time getting a couple of hundred bucks? Your topic is more than misleading, it's slander, be happy if the only thing we do is ban you. Last edited by Lensman; 03-26-2003 at 10:11 AM..