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crockett

Seriously, why argue with him. Robbie is not sensible and never has been. I dunno why people think he is because he's always beat a dead horse right into the ground no matter how wrong he's proven or what the subject is.

He's gone off the deep end long ago and nothing you will ever say to him will ever change his mind on any subject he thinks he's right about..

I challenge anyone to find any topic where Robbie has admitted he was wrong and changed his position..

Rochard

Some people make every argument into a political argument.

I do not like or dislike Hillary. This is not a political issue for me. This is a government issue. This is how our government acts; This is how our government is supposed to act. In the event of an emergency our government needs to act slowly, carefully, and deliberately. In this case, our government told us what they knew to be true. They might have suspected this was much more than a protest, but they cannot come out and confront the American public and say "We think it might have been this" because if they wrong it's a potential scandal.

In this case our government almost immediately suspected this was much more than just a protest. Until they had proof they stuck with the original story, all of which was 100% true.

But nah, let's investigate this again.

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dyna mo

I have zero issues with "vetting" a Potus candidate. Especially one that is known to lie, is a war monger, and in cahoots with wall Street fat cats while exclaiming she's in it for John q. Public all while being a career established inside the beltway politician making 100s of millions of dollars.

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Benghazi was a CIA gun running operation gone bad. /endstory

Robbie

Wow.

I'll say it AGAIN. The very night of the attack on Benghazi...Hillary wrote an email to her daughter and said that the attack was a terrorist attack.

That is NOT the govt. "acting slowly, carefully, and deliberately". That is Hillary telling her daughter the truth and THEN Pres. Obama and her going on television and blaming it on a video.

What part of they KNEW it was a terrorist attack as it was happening do you not understand???

You act so damn dense on these threads.

ONCE AND FOR ALL ROCHARD CHECK OUT FACTCHECK.ORG:
Benghazi Timeline

From that page:
"There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack."

Get it Rochard NO PROTESTORS. And that was the State Dept. headed by Hillary Clinton ADMITTING they lied one month after the event.

At 10 p.m. that very night...Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton issued the following statement:
"Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."

One hour later...she sent an email to Chelsea that said:
"Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an al Qaeda-like group: The Ambassador, whom I handpicked and a young communications officer on temporary duty w a wife and two young children. Very hard day and I fear more of the same tomorrow. "

Now PLEASE stop spreading misinformation and lies Rochard.
If you can't use Google to find things out then just stop typing bullshit.

The whole point of my post here was to show that while guys like you act like this was nothing at all...it was EVERYTHING to the people involved.

While Hillary dances around lying and wiping her server and acting like SHE is a "victim"...the real victims were lied to and treated like dirt by her and the Obama administration.

That is NOT how govt. is "supposed to act" as you wrote.

I shouldn't have to type all this shit. This is the very basics of what happened.
But you act like you've never opened a newspaper or watched the news on television in your whole life...or even used Google.
And then you come into these threads with a know-it-all attitude and say the exact opposite of what really happened.

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Joshua G

robbie. dont waste any more words with this one. he is WILLFULLY ignorant, a member of the blame america first crowd, blame GOP for everything crowd. thats all he wants to hear.

hey rochard...any chance the muslim terrorists have any blame for any of it? how about obama being in charge 7 years, no blame??? your so ignorant, the people waging the actual attacks have no blame.

that easy to school you.

Paul Markham

If Clinton should be on trial over Benghazi, so should Bush over Iraq.

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ilnjscb

Very true

_Richard_

that resulted in an ambushed rescue mission, a tortured and sodomized diplomat, an unguarded and entirely known safe house.. and a great deal of mercenaries for syria.

but.. politics!

i wonder when the succession wars start.

Rochard

I am not a Democrat; I used to be a full on Republican. I have voted Republican more than anything else. I am a realist.

I surely don't spend my time watching silly heavily biased videos.

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dyna mo

life's not fair markham. it's odd you haven't figured that out by now.

ilnjscb

So you think she knew that the attack had occurred because of radical islamists, and Obama, seeking to turn the message toward "Islamists are peaceful unless provoked", insisted on the absurd story that the attack resulted from protests gone awry over a movie. She then, instead of telling the American people what she knew and exposing Obama and the rest of his administration as liars who are willing to say and do anything to retain power, stayed loyal to him and his message.

Further, you believe she knew, not feared, knew, who caused the attacks that cost 4 lives and millions in property damage, and what their motivation was. So when Obama insisted everyone stay on message, she complied out of a desire to fool the American people rather than because she thought she might have been incorrect in her original assessment.

dyna mo

heads up (assuming people in this debate are aware of the Benghazi talking points, although it sounds like a couple of you are not):

Secret Emails Show Hillary Clinton Tied To Benghazi Talking Points

"Judicial Watch announced today that newly revealed testimony from the Obama State Department under court order directly ties Hillary Clinton, for the first time, to the now-debunked Benghazi talking points used by United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice to claim that the attack was the result of a ?spontaneous protest? gone awry.

The Obama administration also sent false talking points about the attack to Congress. The State Department is refusing to divulge the contents of the email, citing a discretionary ?deliberative process? privilege."

dyna mo

read:

Summary

The question won’t go away: Did President Obama and administration officials mislead the public when they initially claimed that the deadly Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began “spontaneously” in response to an anti-Muslim video?

The question surfaced again on Oct. 25 — more than six weeks after the incident — when government emails showed the White House and the State Department were told even as the attack was going on that Ansar al-Sharia, a little-known militant group, had claimed credit for it.

We cannot say whether the administration was intentionally misleading the public. We cannot prove intent. There is also more information to come — both from the FBI, which is conducting an investigation, and Congress, which has been holding hearings.

But, at this point, we do know that Obama and others in the administration were quick to cite the anti-Muslim video as the underlying cause for the attack in Benghazi that killed four U.S. diplomats, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Chris Stevens. And they were slow to acknowledge it was a premeditated terrorist attack, and they downplayed reports that it might have been.

What follows is a timeline of events that we hope will help put the incident into perspective.

We call attention in particular to these key facts:
There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.

Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.

Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”

Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.

Here is our timeline:

Benghazi Timeline - Factcheck.org

Robbie

But why?

Rochard said that the govt. response to Benghazi was just the govt. doing "what it's supposed to do"

And Rochard said "No one lied about anything."

And Rochard said: "Clinton didn't lie to anyone"

He also assured us in previous threads that the economy was kicking ass because none of the houses on the street he lives on are empty.

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bronco67

Here's a question none of the Benghazi whiners will answer directly....I repeat, there will be NO DIRECT ANSWER GIVEN to this question. Just double-speaking around it.

One a scale of 1 to 10, rate the seriousness and global impact/ripple effect of Benghazi vs The Iraq war.

example answer:
Benghazi 2
Iraq war 10

My answer doesn't mean Benghazi isn't serious...but it's a proverbial molehill compared to Iraq.

Iraq breaks the scale.

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Joshua G

i dont know bronco. which was more impactful, the bible, or your dumb posts?

dyna mo

you keeping on whining about it doesn't make it relevant- at all.

example:

benghazi has absolutely jack shit to do with iraq and isn't even worthy of a reply.

dyna mo

on a scale of 1-13, rate the seriousness and global impact/ripple effect of Benghazi vs The battle of Hastings 1066.

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Joshua G

oh another person who is denial about their party. i talk dem, but i was a republican, until i was a dem, but now im not dem, or repub, but sound dem, just call me dumbass.

no. you just read silly heavily biased web pages & then compare hilarys server to colins gmail & claim they are the same & make yourself look like a 5th grader.

im sure when hilary is flogged by the FBI you will engineer some crockett science that you were right, or you didnt care, anything but the reality that your head is willfully up your ass.

bronco67

You did exactly what I said you'd do. I just asked a simple question.

It is relevant. You guys want to make big deal about Benghazi, but give no shits about something way more catastrophic to our nation and national security.

You answer will show that all of this Benghazi whining is completely and 100% about political leanings. So give an honest answer, or just do what I predicted you'll do, which is to say something you think is smart.

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bronco67

I dare you to make less sense. You know you're a fucking idiot....right?

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Rochard

Did the State Department know this when they made the statement? Did Hillary? Did Obama? Did anyone?

In the initial stages of the attack, the White House and the State Department was reacting and commenting on what little information they had. The ONLY things the White House the State Department knew as facts was that a video was released, they were expecting multiple protests at multiple locations, and that an embassy was being over run.

In the first twenty-four hours that is all they knew, and that is exactly what they told us.

From page you sent me..... Benghazi Timeline

Has the following interview with Obama the day after:

Kroft: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

Obama: Well, it?s too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans and we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice one way or the other.

Kroft: It?s been described as a mob action. But there are reports that they were very heavily armed with grenades. That doesn?t sound like your normal demonstration.

Obama: As I said, we?re still investigating exactly what happened. I don?t want to jump the gun on this. But you?re right that this is not a situation that was exactly the same as what happened in Egypt. And my suspicion is, is that there are folks involved in this, who were looking to target Americans from the start.

The day after the attack the President said we didn't want to jump to conclusions on this, and that people were looking to target Americans from the start.

Twenty four hours after the attack, we still had no idea what had really happened there. We didn't know if there was a protest or not; It wasn't even near being on the list of important things we needed or wanted to know. This isn't a crime scene down the block being investigated by your friendly local law enforcement; This is was a terrorist attack in a foreign country where is was little if any law enforcement, and not much support from the government. We didn't figure out what happened until weeks afterwards.

They told us what they knew at the time. No one lied.

Hillary told her daughter in an email that it was a terrorist attack? And? What is your point? She told her daughter it was a terrorist attack while in public tried not to use those words? YOU THINK? That was her job. The President himself was quoted (above) as saying they were trying not use the world "terrorism" because at the time we weren't sure what happened, and we don't want to use such words lightly.

They told us what they knew to be true and correct at the time. Period.

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Rochard

No, not at all. I don't read any websites about this. I don't spend my time reading such nonsense. I read and watch the mainstream news, CNN, ABC, CBS, Fox....

Benghazi isn't even remotely on my radar. No one outside of the hardcore Republicans care about Benghazi. It's rarely in the news.

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Rochard

How many embassies were attacked under Bush? Why haven't we investigated any of them?

Why are we investigating this one, small, minor attack more than the largest attack in American history?

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dyna mo

no. i'm just able to focus on the topic. i'm not getting sucked into the liberal dodge and deflect mode of debating.

as i already posted i am a proponent of fulling "vetting" any and all potus candidates. you've yet to see me point out any unfair "vetting" of Trump. that's because i don't have a problem with it. vett the shit out of those motherfuckers.

Joshua G

yes. your comments reflect a thin understanding of issues, a mindless regurgitator of liberal spin. i point out you should do some work & get more facts, but you willfully choose not to. so i am correct & you are willfully ignorant.

dyna mo

how many embassies were attacked under Bill Clinton? Why haven't we investigated any of them?

Rochard

Compared to you who doesn't have time to use capitalization?

This is very simple to explain. In the first forty-eight hours our government had no clue of what happened in Benghazi. Because the public demanded answers, they released a statement saying what little they knew or what they thought to be true.

At the same time, they carefully worded their statements - instead of coming out saying "this was a terrorist attack that demands a response from our military" and putting fifty thousand American troops on the ground in Libya which would have cost thousands of American lives and billions of dollars, they downplayed it until we had all of the facts.

Which is exact what we want our government to do.

But let's keep investigating it.

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Grapesoda

fav thing to say to a lib: can you say anything with out mentioning GW Bush?

Robbie

I showed you OVER AND OVER AND OVER where they said that YES they knew it was a terrorist attack.
The CIA knew it right away.

Do you follow the news at all?

No Rochard, they didn't tell anyone what they knew to be true. They LIED and said it was a video.

This is me pointing at a blue sky and saying "the sky is blue" ... and you looking up and claiming it's red.

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ilnjscb

From my own reading of the events, Clinton called it a terrorist attack before Obama did. She called it a terrorist attack on September 20th, roughly 9 days after the attack took place.

So what we're angry about is that she went with the Obama message, clearly absurd, that the attack was caused by a supposedly anti-Muslim film, and took 9 days to decide that her initial impression was correct and to tell the truth, and was not courageous enough to break with all the other Obama staffers and call them the liars they were before the 9 days?

directfiesta

damn... americans are really dumb ...

bronco67

What it boils down to is the Obama administration is careful and measured about what they say. Why go shooting off your mouth and speculating before you know exactly what happened. This has been a major trait of this administration from the beginning.

You wouldn't get this from president Mr Straight Shooter Trump. He says what's on his mind with no filter. I'm sure that'll be great for our country.

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dyna mo

Umm. BO is otr being interviewed about his lack of calling it terrorism. He intentionally avoided the term to describe it and always has. He downplays it and calls it an act of terror.

Robbie

Actually she called it a terrorist attack that very night (the 11th) in an email to Chelsea.

And that indicates that everyone in that room (including Obama) KNEW what was happening.

We have also found out during the Benghazi investigation that the CIA was on the ground and was reporting back that it was a terrorist attack the entire time.

The President Of Libya was telling them that as well.

There never was a "protest" (another part of the lie) and it never had anything to do with a "video" (another part of the lie).

It was quite simply Pres. Obama wanting to play politics with the election only 56 days away (a point the Hillary made when she said the election was only 56 days away in her email).

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Robbie

Uh...they IMMEDIATELY (that very night) went on television in a press conference and said it was caused by a video.

How the fuck is that being "careful and measured"? Especially when they already knew exactly what happened from the CIA on the ground?

What is wrong with you people?

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Rochard

Robbie, the moment they killed people it was a terrorist attack. The press was calling it a terrorist attack as soon as they started reporting it. But in the first twenty-four and even forty-eight hours, we had no idea if there was a protest or not. You are trying to say they lied, and I am telling you in the first forty-eight hours they had no idea what had really happened. Again, little law enforcement, and a shaky government. The White House couldn't exactly pick up the phone and ask questions; There was no one there to answer if there was most likely the phones wasn't working.

President Obama himself said in a interview the day after the attack that they are trying not to call it a terrorist attack. It's very, very simple - The President didn't want to get the American public whipped up into a frenzy that would demand the United States put boots on the ground into yet another war we don't need to be in.

No one lied about anything. They had very limited information in the first few days. They slowly gave out information once the facts became clear AND they could verify them, which took weeks if not months.

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Rochard

Yes, Robbie, they said exactly that. The ONLY information they had was that a video was released, they were expecting a protest, they issued an alert, and an embassy was attacked. That was ALL they knew six to ten hours after the attack started, and that is exactly what they told us.

No one lied. They told us what they thought had happened based on what little information they had at the moment.

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Robbie

Not true Rochard.
I have quoted the email that Hillary sent Chelsea that very evening saying it was a terrorist attack.

I have pointed out that the CIA operatives on the ground were reporting in real time that it was a terrorist attack.

I can't understand why YOU don't understand that when they said it was a video that caused a "protest",,, they ALREADY knew that there was no protest and that it was a terrorist attack.

Why are you defending that lie?

You see...this is what causes so many people to dislike the Democrat politicians. They are never held to the same standards as everyone else.

You are sitting here defending the indefensible and trying to make it sound like nothing was wrong.

Well, I was raised to know that a lie is a lie. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

But as Hillary said when asked by Congress about Benghazi: "What does it really matter now?"

And if you watch that video footage of those hurt and angry family members...you would know that it matters a lot to them.

Not so much to you.

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Axeman

I commend you for continuing to try to educated him, don't know how you have the stamina for that. He is by far the most uneducated "expert" on these boards.

You are trying to achieve the impossible with your mission though. Good luck!!

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dyna mo

You just outlined the lie then claimed it's not a lie.

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Robbie

Wow...you read nothing in this thread or on the news before making that comment.

The attack was a pre-planned, carefully coordinated attack by Al Queda.

There was NO protest happening at all.

And no video was involved (The State Dept. under Hillary Clinton admitted that months later)

P.S.: I love quoting you and removing your estrogen-filled pussified "Plum" colored text. Man up bitch.

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Paul Markham

So Bush gets a pass.

Obama has to show his birth certificate, Trump doesn't have to show his tax returns. Bush goes to war on a lie, Bill gets hounded for a BJ.

Seems fairness is one way.

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Yanks_Todd

I am confused. Since the first second the news of the attack happened who didn't think this was terrorism? I mean really. I am not even taking Hillary's side here as it should have been called that from the beginning, but who here thought that was just an out of control crowd? And we all knew it wasn't the state of China, Ireland or Canada attacking. Obviously terrorism. This seems to be such a non-issue. Just as the thread said.

I mean the Donald is a walking contradiction and yet he is fit to be president, hahahaha.

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