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NatalieK · 05-25-2016, 03:39 PM

Hey, just a one time program announcement, great for referrers who like to increase their income & earn more each month!

Over the past few months many of you recommended I update my new ModelCentro website NatalieK.xxx with my older videos from my old website chain, I was slightly against this as it's all SD & my new content's full HD. Well I made the step & decided to update every few days each week, on Monday & Friday with my new videos & Tuesday & Thursdays with my old archives.

Most of my new content's outdoor public flashing, nudity & masturbation, foot fetish & mainly solo with toys. My old archives inc. Gangbangs, Bukkake, Cumshots & big dicks, some outdoor dogging & gloryhole parties. It's very slutty & extremely hardcore, so fantastic for a huge array of traffic

All of my content's exclusive & still very much unseen, due to the low publicity & advertising from my past. Now hoping to raise a higher traffic quantity & gain more affiliates, my name's remained the same but now with my own site as my name, I know your traffic shall exchange for sales & we can both earn additional income.

You can mail [email protected] or skype me, see my sig.

Looking forward to plenty of enjoyable work in the near future, so you'll be pleased to sign up to an affiliate program to share for many years to come! I've natural boobs, a sexy round ass, hoping you'll agree, a nice snatch & good body & love to get naughty in the sun, always chatting with my fans which helps to keep retention on sales, so your traffic becomes quality income for you & I!

Once signed up to NatalieKash you can keep up to date with my latest previews & FHGs at my referrer blog NatalieKash.com

DVTimes · 05-25-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Hey, just a one time program announcement

Not when you post your spam for your crappy site that fails to sell each day.

Do you mean its a one time program announcement for today, but will post more on Thursday and every day and in every thread going.

Also the sad thing is, those blurred pics are the best you have to promote your site Gary. Ouch.

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

great for sales from all niche

So your site is great for the gay niche, or teen niche, or big boob niche, or cd niche, or cartoon niche, or babe niche (I could go on). No, clearly not. So not for all niches as your trying to claim Gary.

Adraco · 05-25-2016, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

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You can mail [email protected] or skype me, see my sig.
...

This is exactly the email address you posted when you pretended to be Nathalie and then saying that was the email address to Gary.

Shall we takes this as the ultimate confession, since "Nathalie" has said this was specifically your email address and now you write and I quote:
"You can mail [email protected] or skype me" [My bolding]
End quote.

The post author clearly says "mail me", as in the one who created the post. The email address has, by either one of you, been said to belong to Gary, to be "his email".

So, do we finally come clean and confess that a former member, who is banned for life is still here, trying to whip up business by pretending to be someone else?

wehateporn · 05-25-2016, 04:53 PM

Gspot's just trying to earn a living, I don't think people should keep harassing every thread, maybe once in a while, but not everytime it just gets boring and it can't be pleasant for GSpot to have to go through this every day, it's time to be more productive people, like GSpot is trying to be

PornWorx · 05-25-2016, 05:12 PM

Who gives a fuck if it's Gary or not...you all plan on sexting with him?

Paul Markham · 05-26-2016, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Gspot's just trying to earn a living, I don't think people should keep harassing every thread, maybe once in a while, but not everytime it just gets boring and it can't be pleasant for GSpot to have to go through this every day, it's time to be more productive people, like GSpot is trying to be

Look at the quality of the haters efforts to earn a living. It tells us everything we need to know.

Whatever Adam says about Gary. Gary is making money.

wehateporn · 05-26-2016, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Look at the quality of the haters efforts to earn a living. It tells us everything we need to know.

Whatever Adam says about Gary. Gary is making money.

I'm very keen to stay impartial, I arrived late on the scene by which time there were already deep fault lines running between some of the Brits. In the current situation we have people who are trying to damage a persons business while at the same time they are harming their own and also the board (some people will now think twice before posting business stuff here). I'm sure it's OK to throw a jab once in a while, it's quite entertaining for the passers-by, but now it's getting repetitive and obsessive, and like I say I don't want to lay blame (these things happen). I want to stay on good terms with all involved, I'd buy any of you a beer and enjoy a chat. I'm appearing here now as a referee and recommending for all involved to calm it down for their own benefit and the good of the board.

NatalieK · 05-26-2016, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Adraco

This is exactly the email address you posted when you pretended to be Nathalie and then saying that was the email address to Gary.

Shall we takes this as the ultimate confession, since "Nathalie" has said this was specifically your email address and now you write and I quote:
"You can mail [email protected] or skype me" [My bolding]
End quote.

The post author clearly says "mail me", as in the one who created the post. The email address has, by either one of you, been said to belong to Gary, to be "his email".

So, do we finally come clean and confess that a former member, who is banned for life is still here, trying to whip up business by pretending to be someone else?

Not that it matters if we speak with me or Gary, however, we, my partner & I have one email address, [email protected] the gnn stands for Gary N Natalie....

the business is a partnership & has been since we began in 2005 & now we've moved to Spain together, spending days enjoying each others time, we work together & are here together, lol, we sometimes even shit together

NatalieK · 05-26-2016, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Gspot's just trying to earn a living, I don't think people should keep harassing every thread, maybe once in a while, but not everytime it just gets boring and it can't be pleasant for GSpot to have to go through this every day, it's time to be more productive people, like GSpot is trying to be

thank you for your support WHP, yes indeed, we're productive every day, looking at 10 years ahead, always trying to make the big time with porn ideas & new circulars. This time is was about our content, the hardcore porn that your traffic will love & when a simple text link to my website could earn real webmasters an extra $100 in their pocket, I do see it insane for anyone to try to derail a business thread.

Besides, I don't know many models that are updating solo sites as much as me & i'm always around to speak to my members & fans. Model Centro agree, I'm doing it right. I'd like to see my name, my niche & my site in the top spots in the coming years

AdultKing · 05-26-2016, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

.. looking at 10 years ahead, always trying to make the big time with porn ideas & new circulars.

Can you please share with us some of your ideas for the next 10 years ? I'm sure several of us would find that fascinating. Always interested in seeing the new trends in this business.

candyflip · 05-26-2016, 06:39 AM

We all know it's Gary, yet he continues to try and keep up the charade.

NatalieK · 05-26-2016, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Can you please share with us some of your ideas for the next 10 years ? I'm sure several of us would find that fascinating. Always interested in seeing the new trends in this business.

Sorry, but no. We're working on some projects atm, one of our favourite films was "cheaters, the parody", however, we've not created the series & only shot one video. The new series we're working on's hopefully going to be mainstream & porn, depending on the pilot. Fast cars, boats & plenty of hot sun, sea & sex

At present, we're filming plenty of updates for my website, so you'll have plenty of new previews to link to.

CurrentlySober · 05-26-2016, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

we sometimes even shit together

Now thats a niche site I'd like to see

NatalieK · 05-26-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm very keen to stay impartial, I arrived late on the scene by which time there were already deep fault lines running between some of the Brits. In the current situation we have people who are trying to damage a persons business while at the same time they are harming their own and also the board (some people will now think twice before posting business stuff here). I'm sure it's OK to throw a jab once in a while, it's quite entertaining for the passers-by, but now it's getting repetitive and obsessive, and like I say I don't want to lay blame (these things happen). I want to stay on good terms with all involved, I'd buy any of you a beer and enjoy a chat. I'm appearing here now as a referee and recommending for all involved to calm it down for their own benefit and the good of the board.

Personally I'd not throw a jab, I'd rather leave that to Gary & I personally wouldn't want to see anyone particular, knocked out by a girl

Anyway WHP, you're lovely & kind words, also would welcome you to our home & enjoy a nice cold beer, anyone's always welcomed in my home. Personally, there shouldn't be any referee, since COUP showed me how & where to ignore, it's great having a couple of people on my ignore list.

https://gfy.com/members/gspotproductions/ you can click ignore to see who's on my ignore list

They'll just continue to act like stalkers while I get on with enjoying business & pleasure. You have a great week!

Paul Markham · 05-26-2016, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

I'm very keen to stay impartial, I arrived late on the scene by which time there were already deep fault lines running between some of the Brits. In the current situation we have people who are trying to damage a persons business while at the same time they are harming their own and also the board (some people will now think twice before posting business stuff here). I'm sure it's OK to throw a jab once in a while, it's quite entertaining for the passers-by, but now it's getting repetitive and obsessive, and like I say I don't want to lay blame (these things happen). I want to stay on good terms with all involved, I'd buy any of you a beer and enjoy a chat. I'm appearing here now as a referee and recommending for all involved to calm it down for their own benefit and the good of the board.

It depends on what one is selling. Back in the day, I was ready to take on anyone and got into a lot of board fights. On purpose.

It made people want to see what I'm selling and at the time, it was better than most of my competitors. I had 25 years experience shooting sets, they had 6 months to a year.

Adam has nothing to sell. Along with the trolls without a signature. Or lead to something else they earn on as an affiliate.

The biggest loser was, IMO, Damian. He had less to sell than Adam and yet was keen to shoot down his betters at any chance.

NatalieK · 05-27-2016, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It depends on what one is selling. Back in the day, I was ready to take on anyone and got into a lot of board fights. On purpose.

It made people want to see what I'm selling and at the time, it was better than most of my competitors. I had 25 years experience shooting sets, they had 6 months to a year.

Adam has nothing to sell. Along with the trolls without a signature. Or lead to something else they earn on as an affiliate.

The biggest loser was, IMO, Damian. He had less to sell than Adam and yet was keen to shoot down his betters at any chance.

there will always be trolls, but stalkers are just far & few between. These people are probably dangerous in their own minds, but in reality, when you put them on ignore, they're no harm.....

I'm updating with some great videos from foot fetish, erotica, big cocks & dogging > NatalieK | Events calendar

plaster · 05-27-2016, 11:25 AM

All of the hate should have left the building when that twat Damian was banned.

rogueteens · 05-27-2016, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I'd like to see my name, my niche & my site in the top spots in the coming years

What do you consider your niche? Honestly, I think this is something you've always struggled with. You've often tired to push Natalie as a "pornstar" when I think you'd be better just going for a "greedy girl" or "hot wife" (google them if you are unsure), something along the higher end of the amateur market.

Bladewire · 05-27-2016, 12:12 PM

Gary if you & Natalie broke up and you're struggling it's gonna be ok, hang in there man.

NatalieK · 05-27-2016, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

What do you consider your niche? Honestly, I think this is something you've always struggled with. You've often tired to push Natalie as a "pornstar" when I think you'd be better just going for a "greedy girl" or "hot wife" (google them if you are unsure), something along the higher end of the amateur market.

I'm known as pornstar at freeones, they mention this in my bio & on pornhub, I also prefer to do solo content now, which is MILF.

In the past, it wasn't that we had a problem with niche, we ran our own parties, I had my own gloryhole in my own studio & have films from every niche. We'd go dogging for film footage, all reality meets & all hardcore content.

You say we're struggled with a niche, this can't be the case, we have all niche covered.

Yes, in the past, hot wife or greedy girl would have been good, but now, with my foot fetish video, my public flashing, maybe hot wife can still stay true, but in reality, i'm a porn star or a hot wife, either's true.

Natalie K Porn Videos | Pornhub.com

I've now shot over 800 porn scenes since 2006 with a DVD on retail, I'd say i'm more porn star than most other porn stars

rogueteens · 05-27-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I'm known as pornstar at freeones, they mention this in my bio & on pornhub, I also prefer to do solo content now, which is MILF.

In the past, it wasn't that we had a problem with niche, we ran our own parties, I had my own gloryhole in my own studio & have films from every niche. We'd go dogging for film footage, all reality meets & all hardcore content.

You say we're struggled with a niche, this can't be the case, we have all niche covered.

Yes, in the past, hot wife or greedy girl would have been good, but now, with my foot fetish video, my public flashing, maybe hot wife can still stay true, but in reality, i'm a porn star or a hot wife, either's true.

Natalie K Porn Videos | Pornhub.com

I've now shot over 800 porn scenes since 2006 with a DVD on retail, I'd say i'm more porn star than most other porn stars

That's exactly my point though, you try to cover everything. narrow down and concentrate in one area. Don't try and cover every niche - public nudity fans are not keen on public fucking, foot fetish fans will be turned off by facials. you need to chose one niche and really learn everything about it. look at the looners for example, you'll never see a group of people so divided in one niche. pick one area and really understand it.

And with all due respect, when people think of pornstar, they have images of silicon Barbie blondes in glamorous locations fucking hunks. Your look and your content just doesn't say pornstar.

You didn't google "Hot Wife" did you?

You really need someone to manage your direction and to keep you on the right path.

Mediamix · 05-27-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Gspot's just trying to earn a living, I don't think people should keep harassing every thread, maybe once in a while, but not everytime it just gets boring and it can't be pleasant for GSpot to have to go through this every day, it's time to be more productive people, like GSpot is trying to be

Natalie and Gary are great people that just want to earn some money!

NatalieK · 05-27-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

That's exactly my point though, you try to cover everything. narrow down and concentrate in one area. Don't try and cover every niche - public nudity fans are not keen on public fucking, foot fetish fans will be turned off by facials. you need to chose one niche and really learn everything about it. look at the looners for example, you'll never see a group of people so divided in one niche. pick one area and really understand it.

And with all due respect, when people think of pornstar, they have images of silicon Barbie blondes in glamorous locations fucking hunks. Your look and your content just doesn't say pornstar.

You didn't google "Hot Wife" did you?

You really need someone to manage your direction and to keep you on the right path.

I understand what you're saying rogue, the problem is, maybe, not trying to sound annoying, but you're forgetting, most if not all of my traffic comes from my twitter. Fans & guys that enjoy speaking to me in message. I have a huge array of different people enjoying many different things.

I have friends ask to see more of my feet & others want to see pee, basically, we've always pleased all of my online friends.

If 2 or 3 quality affiliates wanted a certain niche & each was to provide over 1000 hits a day, which in turn would bring in 3 or 4 daily sales from each affiliate, i'd stick to that niche. Where as in the meantime, my affiliates are not where my traffic comes from, so I keep my own twitter friends happy & then bring in my own sales.

I do understand what you mean by pornstar, although, fake boobs doesn't really cover all pornstar. ALTHOUGH, i'll take this into consideration & both Gary & I shall certainly think about covering a certain niche, possibly bringing in more referrers.

Thankyou Rogue

rogueteens · 05-27-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I understand what you're saying rogue, the problem is, maybe, not trying to sound annoying, but you're forgetting, most if not all of my traffic comes from my twitter. Fans & guys that enjoy speaking to me in message. I have a huge array of different people enjoying many different things.

I have friends ask to see more of my feet & others want to see pee, basically, we've always pleased all of my online friends.

Well, try this, stick to one niche on your main site and put your "specialist" content on C4S or something like that and promote that via twitter.

NatalieK · 05-27-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

Well, try this, stick to one niche on your main site and put your "specialist" content on C4S or something like that and promote that via twitter.

wishing you'd have said this ages ago, amazing, thank you!

This sounds fantastic!

I'll leave what's being updated atm & what's on my website already, but completely stick to outdoor & public nudity, flashing, feet fetish & sensual naughty solo stuff, updating other profiles & clips4sale with my older cumslut, dirty girl, gloryhole & gangbang content.

Thank you rogue!

wondering, what would my best niche be if I'm now a "outdoor fun loving naked MILF in the sun". What would you suggest please?

Paul Markham · 05-28-2016, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

there will always be trolls, but stalkers are just far & few between. These people are probably dangerous in their own minds, but in reality, when you put them on ignore, they're no harm.....

I'm updating with some great videos from foot fetish, erotica, big cocks & dogging > NatalieK | Events calendar

Ignore him. I used to like him but now he's started doing what Damina did. He's off my nice list.

Bottom line is he's a Damian Clone. Hating his betters.

rogueteens · 05-28-2016, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

wondering, what would my best niche be if I'm now a "outdoor fun loving naked MILF in the sun". What would you suggest please?

Its hard to say as your main site is a bit all over the place and you've said some rather contradictory things about your future before now, I mean are you going to go softer or plan to just do outdoor shoots or what?. As you know what works best is what interests you the most, what shoots would you prefer to do in the future?

You made a big thing in the blurb about your site doing a lot of flashing and outdoor stuff. This is a niche I push and I'm sorry to say that anyone looking for flashing/outdoor would be disappointed by what's on your main page. that want to see real public nudity not at the poolside. they would want to see you in the park or outside a shop or anywhere that the genuine public could suddenly spot you.

What sort of shoots do you want to do, going forwards?

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

Its hard to say as your main site is a bit all over the place and you've said some rather contradictory things about your future before now, I mean are you going to go softer or plan to just do outdoor shoots or what?. As you know what works best is what interests you the most, what shoots would you prefer to do in the future?

You made a big thing in the blurb about your site doing a lot of flashing and outdoor stuff. This is a niche I push and I'm sorry to say that anyone looking for flashing/outdoor would be disappointed by what's on your main page. that want to see real public nudity not at the poolside. they would want to see you in the park or outside a shop or anywhere that the genuine public could suddenly spot you.

What sort of shoots do you want to do, going forwards?

I have said all along (and so have others) that he should have done pure chav porn. It would have made him a fortune.

He needs to have many female models on the site and not a solo site.

But the problem is, the girl (Nat) is NOT a glamour model. And the problem Gary has is that he thinks that she is. She does not even smile.

But if they had not run away from the UK. They should have shot in council flats, on council estates, in real chav gear.

That would have been huge.

I know if I was starting again and went back 15 years thats what I would have done.

The thing is, in truth the paysite model (unless you have a huge amount to invest) is over.

The truth is, Gary is unlikely to get sales these days, simply because:

1. The affiliates are no more.
2. Solo girl sites no longer sell.
3. Its 15 years past the prime.
4. You can go on reddit, xhamster, and so on, and you see better content given away by the same types of women as Nat.

The problem too is that one suspects that the customers Gary is targeting are the UK. They want brits in britain. Girl next door.

Lets put it this way, If I shot my content outside the UK, it would have far less interest.

Gary has been given advice for years.

All he says is he is right and we are all wrong.

You can give him all the advice you want, but hardly anything will change.

In truth he believes that there is a few magic affiliates that will promote his site and he will be huge.

If you read, his thought process is quantity over quality. He believes it not what you shoot but the amount you shoot.

The problem is what is this niche he believes he has? Its basically sad looking milf living in Spain.

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

You made a big thing in the blurb about your site doing a lot of flashing and outdoor stuff. This is a niche I push and I'm sorry to say that anyone looking for flashing/outdoor would be disappointed by what's on your main page. that want to see real public nudity not at the poolside. they would want to see you in the park or outside a shop or anywhere that the genuine public could suddenly spot you.

What sort of shoots do you want to do, going forwards?

People also want it in England.

Walking in city centres. Next to building they know.

Not in Spain.

Back in the days when sites sold, I knew one girl who purchased a council flat to do chav/council porn. It sold like hotcakes. The thing was she was not a chav, but she just pretended to be.

She made her money and closed the site a few years ago one the good times were over. But she owns 3 houses from the sales.

The problem Gary has, is that he should have taken advice given to him 12 or so years ago. The time when sales were easy and there were lots of affiliates.

Today its a bit like Gary trying to start a VHS shop.

brassmonkey · 05-28-2016, 05:26 AM

some good views from here

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 05:42 AM

Gary, you also need to think more about what you are shooting.

What is sexy about this pic?

Nat looks totally not interested.

I do not even understand the point of it.

Let me explain to you the basics of masturbation content.

The idea is that we are watching a girl play with herself and having a great time. It should make you want to join in.

And this applies to ALL your content Gary.

I have never seen any pics you have posted where Nat looks like she wants to be in the pics.

Its boring.

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I understand what you're saying rogue, the problem is, maybe, not trying to sound annoying, but you're forgetting, most if not all of my traffic comes from my twitter. Fans & guys that enjoy speaking to me in message. I have a huge array of different people enjoying many different things.

I have friends ask to see more of my feet & others want to see pee, basically, we've always pleased all of my online friends.

If 2 or 3 quality affiliates wanted a certain niche & each was to provide over 1000 hits a day, which in turn would bring in 3 or 4 daily sales from each affiliate, i'd stick to that niche. Where as in the meantime, my affiliates are not where my traffic comes from, so I keep my own twitter friends happy & then bring in my own sales.

I do understand what you mean by pornstar, although, fake boobs doesn't really cover all pornstar. ALTHOUGH, i'll take this into consideration & both Gary & I shall certainly think about covering a certain niche, possibly bringing in more referrers.

Thankyou Rogue

1. "most if not all of my traffic comes from my twitter"

You are putting up your own barriers with excuses.

2. "I have friends ask to see more of my feet & others want to see pee, basically, we've always pleased all of my online friends"

Yes, probably freeloaders who will not convert to sales. I have known many models who get the same requests. Most learn that they are only after free content and the time you spend trying to please them is not worth it.

I myself get messages like this each day. I just ignore them as they are often (if not always) just a waste of time.

3. "If 2 or 3 quality affiliates wanted a certain niche & each was to provide over 1000 hits a day, which in turn would bring in 3 or 4 daily sales from each affiliate"

And this is what your problem is Gary. Your basing everything on these magic affiliates and there ability to do what you have not done.

In fact the problem with your system you are on, is that it does not provide affiliate tools like ccbill do. Plus its not a system many will want to try as its new. Most will only promote ccbill sites.

You need to stop hoping that affiliates will do it for you, and get the sales yourself.

To be honest Gary, I could write you a simple book of rules that if you followed would get you sales. But what is the point of me spending a few days working on such a plan when you would just ignore the rules as you know best.

In fact Gary. Do you not realised that when you started posting all those years ago on the UK webmaster forum, you asked for the same advice then. But your responce was (as you do now) is to ignore it and have lots of reasons and excuses why you need to carry on as you always have. But its also always someone else's fault why your site does not sell.

4. "so I keep my own twitter friends happy & then bring in my own sales."

So why are you asking for advice and for affiliates if your doing it yourself so well?

5. "I do understand what you mean by pornstar, although, fake boobs doesn't really cover all pornstar."

The point is, you do not understand at all.

You presume rather than understand.

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 06:55 AM

One mistake is that you do not own nataliek.com.

Even in google, is you search for 'nataliek' your on page 3.

Why is that important?

Well if anyone tries to search you out in google, is not going to find you.

Also your wanting affiliates. But you also have a YouKandy site (so is your content exclusive to just one site). You also promote YouKandy site on twitter. This is not a problem but you link your twitter to your nataliek paysite, and that will put off many (if not all) the big affiliates that your wanting as they will see it as a traffic leak.

Also you use your twitter to promote your AdultWork site too.

If it was me, I would stick to one single thing, rather than spread yourself around and put all your effort into that. As an affiliate myself I would not promote you on the fact that your not dedicated 100% to your site, nor does it fill me with confidence that your site sells.

NatalieK · 05-28-2016, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

Its hard to say as your main site is a bit all over the place and you've said some rather contradictory things about your future before now, I mean are you going to go softer or plan to just do outdoor shoots or what?. As you know what works best is what interests you the most, what shoots would you prefer to do in the future?

You made a big thing in the blurb about your site doing a lot of flashing and outdoor stuff. This is a niche I push and I'm sorry to say that anyone looking for flashing/outdoor would be disappointed by what's on your main page. that want to see real public nudity not at the poolside. they would want to see you in the park or outside a shop or anywhere that the genuine public could suddenly spot you.

What sort of shoots do you want to do, going forwards?

We both enjoy getting outdoors through the summer months & I love flashing, with or without undies, sometimes bikini & sometimes a short skirt. Within 5 months, i've updated my site with 100 videos & there must be at least 20 outdoor public flashing in bars, restaurants, parks, beaches, yes poolside, but lots in the street & in shops.

I enjoy the thrill of flashing in public & we both enjoy the outdoor life. But contradictory to this, I enjoy masturbating at home, bath, outdoors on my balcony & any where else.

You run a site with many models, as a solo model site, I have to keep the content different as I feel I'd run out of places to go if it was only public flashing.

Here's only a couple of updates from just a week or 2 ago
Referrers link to our previews | NatalieKash

They included pantie stuffing in a public park & the other video update was masturbating in a public adult shop changing room.

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

You run a site with many models, as a solo model site, I have to keep the content different as I feel I'd run out of places to go if it was only public flashing.

And we are back to, thank you for your advice but your wrong and I know what I am doing..............

You see as much as you ask for advice, the problem is you do not want to hear it.

And that Gary is how you have been since the day you started posting on webmaster forums.

Its been, what 12 or more years Gary that you have done it your way, telling us all that one day people will get your content, but how many more years before things click?

Over the years I have helped shop owners out.

You will not believe the amount who are like you Gary, and believe they know best, most (in fact all) have gone bust.

And I know that you will keep posting that you have done some great new content that sells, then in the same thread ask why no one wants to join your site.

You will never listen to anyone.

It would be amusing, if if was not so sad.

DVTimes · 05-28-2016, 07:40 AM

http://www.nataliekash.com/wp-conten...5/001-tile.jpg

If your in Spain, why are you not even shooting on a beach or some other stunning part of Spain.

Why shoot on some ugly wasteland?

If I was you, I would drive to France, Italy and so on and do shoots in all these stunning places.

NatalieK · 05-28-2016, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Ignore him. I used to like him but now he's started doing what Damina did. He's off my nice list.

Bottom line is he's a Damian Clone. Hating his betters.

oh it's all ok Paul, I do ignore, it's been great having him on my ignore list for the past week or so

Although, now wondering, as I obviously never comment back & don't post in his threads, why's he still harassing me & any thread I post or post in. It's pretty sick tbh! I'd have thought he'd have been banned by now

plaster · 05-28-2016, 08:39 AM

I thought dv and Natalie was going to have a 5k romp session?

NatalieK · 05-28-2016, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

I thought dv and Natalie was going to have a 5k romp session?

now that's one of those things I'd not do.

Besides the hygiene, the people we meet are decent genuine people & that's why the sex in my video's always good. I would most certainly pass on that thanks

Strange he continues to post in my threads, especially with all the stuff he's said in the past. I thought human nature was to want to stay away from those we didn't like. Hence why it's nice not to read anything from him

rogueteens · 05-28-2016, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

We both enjoy getting outdoors through the summer months & I love flashing, with or without undies, sometimes bikini & sometimes a short skirt. Within 5 months, i've updated my site with 100 videos & there must be at least 20 outdoor public flashing in bars, restaurants, parks, beaches, yes poolside, but lots in the street & in shops.

I enjoy the thrill of flashing in public & we both enjoy the outdoor life. But contradictory to this, I enjoy masturbating at home, bath, outdoors on my balcony & any where else.

You run a site with many models, as a solo model site, I have to keep the content different as I feel I'd run out of places to go if it was only public flashing.

Here's only a couple of updates from just a week or 2 ago
Referrers link to our previews | NatalieKash

They included pantie stuffing in a public park & the other video update was masturbating in a public adult shop changing room.

That's all good but the main page of your site goes on about public stuff but the images show none of it except poolside which doesn't cover the niche. People who come to your site looking for the public stuff you mention will be disappointed and quickly click away.

Is that where you want to head? Public? have a look at this site - elisa-dreams.com maybe you could take some ideas from her?

NatalieK · 05-28-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens

That's all good but the main page of your site goes on about public stuff but the images show none of it except poolside which doesn't cover the niche. People who come to your site looking for the public stuff you mention will be disappointed and quickly click away.

Is that where you want to head? Public? have a look at this site - elisa-dreams.com maybe you could take some ideas from her?

I took a look at the site, yes, I see lots of images outdoors, although, still some only half way down the page of Elisa sitting on her chair.

As a model centro site, my updates are all on the main tour, you can see 4 header photos, infact the 4th image of me in a denim skirt was when I was dogging, several guys spunked over me that day....

and my preview shows outdoor material also...

although, with what you've mentioned, i'll have to look into changing a couple of images for more of the action shots, with people around me at the time...

I'll take what you've said & get Gary to maybe change a few of the images

Sednub997 · 05-28-2016, 12:42 PM

lookin good.You fuckin hot

mineistaken · 05-28-2016, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Gspot's just trying to earn a living, I don't think people should keep harassing every thread, maybe once in a while, but not everytime it just gets boring and it can't be pleasant for GSpot to have to go through this every day, it's time to be more productive people, like GSpot is trying to be

NatalieK · 05-28-2016, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sednub997

lookin good.You fuckin hot

thank you Sebnub, you're lovely!

Speigelau · 05-28-2016, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster

I thought dv and Natalie was going to have a 5k romp session?

Dvtimes doesn't want to leave his dogs to travel to Spain to do a scene with Natalie. I think deep down he's scared that Natalie might be too much for him to handle.

rogueteens · 05-28-2016, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

I took a look at the site, yes, I see lots of images outdoors, although, still some only half way down the page of Elisa sitting on her chair.

As a model centro site, my updates are all on the main tour, you can see 4 header photos, infact the 4th image of me in a denim skirt was when I was dogging, several guys spunked over me that day....

and my preview shows outdoor material also...

although, with what you've mentioned, i'll have to look into changing a couple of images for more of the action shots, with people around me at the time...

I'll take what you've said & get Gary to maybe change a few of the images

No, you are not getting it. the blurb on your site says ...

Quote:

I'm Natalie, a British nymphomanic living in Spain, flashing in public & playing on camera for you to see, & I love it! I'm an easy going, fun loving, natural down to earth girl. 5'5, brown eyes, natural tits & a lovely round ass you'll enjoy looking, undressing & masturbating on film.

I love living in Spain, the sun shines & the weather's glorious most days. So I enjoy spending most of my days outdoors wearing next to nothing, shorts or tinys dresses with no panties or lingerie on underneath, flashing & playing when out & about, & I always carry my camera.

There is NOT A SINGLE PICTURE on that page that fits the outdoor niche - this is what I mean about your site being all over the place. Fans of public nudity will find nothing of interest and quickly look elsewhere (Totally wasted traffic), either change the photos to fit what you are saying or change the text to match the photos.

$money$ · 05-28-2016, 04:54 PM

If gary got a hotter girl his sites would sell but nobody wants to see that old leather faced fuck

Speigelau · 05-28-2016, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Gary, you also need to think more about what you are shooting.

What is sexy about this pic?

Nat looks totally not interested.

I do not even understand the point of it.

Let me explain to you the basics of masturbation content.

The idea is that we are watching a girl play with herself and having a great time. It should make you want to join in.

And this applies to ALL your content Gary.

I have never seen any pics you have posted where Nat looks like she wants to be in the pics.

Its boring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

1. "most if not all of my traffic comes from my twitter"

You are putting up your own barriers with excuses.

2. "I have friends ask to see more of my feet & others want to see pee, basically, we've always pleased all of my online friends"

Yes, probably freeloaders who will not convert to sales. I have known many models who get the same requests. Most learn that they are only after free content and the time you spend trying to please them is not worth it.

I myself get messages like this each day. I just ignore them as they are often (if not always) just a waste of time.

3. "If 2 or 3 quality affiliates wanted a certain niche & each was to provide over 1000 hits a day, which in turn would bring in 3 or 4 daily sales from each affiliate"

And this is what your problem is Gary. Your basing everything on these magic affiliates and there ability to do what you have not done.

In fact the problem with your system you are on, is that it does not provide affiliate tools like ccbill do. Plus its not a system many will want to try as its new. Most will only promote ccbill sites.

You need to stop hoping that affiliates will do it for you, and get the sales yourself.

To be honest Gary, I could write you a simple book of rules that if you followed would get you sales. But what is the point of me spending a few days working on such a plan when you would just ignore the rules as you know best.

In fact Gary. Do you not realised that when you started posting all those years ago on the UK webmaster forum, you asked for the same advice then. But your responce was (as you do now) is to ignore it and have lots of reasons and excuses why you need to carry on as you always have. But its also always someone else's fault why your site does not sell.

4. "so I keep my own twitter friends happy & then bring in my own sales."

So why are you asking for advice and for affiliates if your doing it yourself so well?

5. "I do understand what you mean by pornstar, although, fake boobs doesn't really cover all pornstar."

The point is, you do not understand at all.

You presume rather than understand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

One mistake is that you do not own nataliek.com.

Even in google, is you search for 'nataliek' your on page 3.

Why is that important?

Well if anyone tries to search you out in google, is not going to find you.

Also your wanting affiliates. But you also have a YouKandy site (so is your content exclusive to just one site). You also promote YouKandy site on twitter. This is not a problem but you link your twitter to your nataliek paysite, and that will put off many (if not all) the big affiliates that your wanting as they will see it as a traffic leak.

Also you use your twitter to promote your AdultWork site too.

If it was me, I would stick to one single thing, rather than spread yourself around and put all your effort into that. As an affiliate myself I would not promote you on the fact that your not dedicated 100% to your site, nor does it fill me with confidence that your site sells.

So Gary can see Dv's advice and ignore it.

AdultKing · 05-28-2016, 09:33 PM

Three points, for what it's worth.

1. Your website doesn't rank. There are 31 domains on 13 IP addresses linking to it. Most of those links are affiliate links so will not pass on link juice to the site. You have one keyword in the top 10 and another in the top 100 out of common keywords associated with porn.

2. As others have said, Natalie looks completely disinterested and this does nothing to help sales. Without trying to sound mean or nasty, she looks like she just doesn't want to be there and it shows in the content.

3. Your affiliate program would do better on CCBill, because that's where the largest pool of affiliates pushing smaller sites is. That's not a reflection on ModelCentro, more a reflection of your site.

Bladewire · 05-28-2016, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Three points, for what it's worth.

1. Your website doesn't rank. There are 31 domains on 13 IP addresses linking to it. You have one keyword in the top 10 and another in the top 100 out of common keywords associated with porn.

2. As others have said, Natalie looks completely disinterested and this does nothing to help sales. Without trying to sound mean or nasty, she looks like she just doesn't want to be there and it shows in the content.

3. Your affiliate program would do better on CCBill, because that's where the largest pool of affiliates pushing smaller sites is. That's not a reflection on ModelCentro, more a reflection of your site.

You're being very very mean to Gary.

You know what it feels like to be on the swelled knob end of a penetration.

You know he's suffering & struggling.

The difference between being nuturing and cruel is ... and also

Don't give advice that you don't follow.

Small pond, we can be kind to one another.

05-25-2016, 03:39 PM	#1
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05-25-2016, 04:53 PM	#4
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05-25-2016, 05:12 PM	#5
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05-27-2016, 11:25 AM	#17
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	All of the hate should have left the building when that twat Damian was banned.

05-28-2016, 05:42 AM	#31
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	Gary, you also need to think more about what you are shooting. What is sexy about this pic? Nat looks totally not interested. I do not even understand the point of it. Let me explain to you the basics of masturbation content. The idea is that we are watching a girl play with herself and having a great time. It should make you want to join in. And this applies to ALL your content Gary. I have never seen any pics you have posted where Nat looks like she wants to be in the pics. Its boring. __________________ The Affiliate Program

05-28-2016, 06:55 AM	#33
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	One mistake is that you do not own nataliek.com. Even in google, is you search for 'nataliek' your on page 3. Why is that important? Well if anyone tries to search you out in google, is not going to find you. Also your wanting affiliates. But you also have a YouKandy site (so is your content exclusive to just one site). You also promote YouKandy site on twitter. This is not a problem but you link your twitter to your nataliek paysite, and that will put off many (if not all) the big affiliates that your wanting as they will see it as a traffic leak. Also you use your twitter to promote your AdultWork site too. If it was me, I would stick to one single thing, rather than spread yourself around and put all your effort into that. As an affiliate myself I would not promote you on the fact that your not dedicated 100% to your site, nor does it fill me with confidence that your site sells. __________________ The Affiliate Program

05-28-2016, 07:40 AM	#36
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	http://www.nataliekash.com/wp-conten...5/001-tile.jpg If your in Spain, why are you not even shooting on a beach or some other stunning part of Spain. Why shoot on some ugly wasteland? If I was you, I would drive to France, Italy and so on and do shoots in all these stunning places. __________________ The Affiliate Program

05-28-2016, 08:39 AM	#38
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	I thought dv and Natalie was going to have a 5k romp session?

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05-28-2016, 04:54 PM	#47
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05-28-2016, 09:33 PM	#49
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	Three points, for what it's worth. 1. Your website doesn't rank. There are 31 domains on 13 IP addresses linking to it. Most of those links are affiliate links so will not pass on link juice to the site. You have one keyword in the top 10 and another in the top 100 out of common keywords associated with porn. 2. As others have said, Natalie looks completely disinterested and this does nothing to help sales. Without trying to sound mean or nasty, she looks like she just doesn't want to be there and it shows in the content. 3. Your affiliate program would do better on CCBill, because that's where the largest pool of affiliates pushing smaller sites is. That's not a reflection on ModelCentro, more a reflection of your site.