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dyna mo · 05-30-2016, 07:10 PM

Pretty sure it's both.

Bladewire · 05-30-2016, 07:45 PM

We've been in a digital world war for a decade now and it's undeclared, like WTF?

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Paul Markham · 05-30-2016, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Pretty sure it's both.

As the US made so much money out of both. I think your question is strange.

Jigster715 · 05-31-2016, 01:20 AM

His grasp of history comes from Capn Crunch and Count Chocula boxes.

_Richard_ · 05-31-2016, 01:36 AM

just the one, no?

wehateporn · 05-31-2016, 03:25 AM

It was globalists who planned them, people from New York and England

NewNick · 05-31-2016, 03:54 AM

I always thought that Pearl Harbour was a Japanese thing ?

_Richard_ · 05-31-2016, 03:58 AM

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I always thought that Pearl Harbour was a Japanese thing ?

yea, however there is a weird amount of connections between the european entity and american companies...

which is curious, as the british very generally got a american ship sunk by a german uboat, which got them involved in ww1

NewNick · 05-31-2016, 05:05 AM

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yea, however there is a weird amount of connections between the european entity and american companies...

which is curious, as the british very generally got a american ship sunk by a german uboat, which got them involved in ww1

That's a dubious grasp of history you have there.

The Lusitania was sunk 2 years before America entered the war after which Germany agreed to restrict its submarine warfare to guaranteed military targets.

Germany resumed unrestricted submarine warfare in 1917 in an act of desperation. The blockade was strangling its supply routes.

The US lent vast sums to both sides in WW1. These debts fuelled the reparations set out by Versailles and the devastation of the German economy under the Wiemar republic. There is a strong argument to say that US profiteering in WW1 is a major factor in the "stab-in-the-back" theory which proliferates in past 1919 Germany. The rise of National Socialism and the eventual outbreak of the European theatre of WW2 can be in part attributed to US policy.

Why has Germany taken so long to pay off its WWI debt? - BBC News

onwebcam · 05-31-2016, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As the US made so much money out of both. I think your question is strange.

Actually both wars are what put us into debt, well that and the Federal reserve.

_Richard_ · 05-31-2016, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

That's a dubious grasp of history you have there.

The Lusitania was sunk 2 years before America entered the war after which Germany agreed to restrict its submarine warfare to guaranteed military targets.

Germany resumed unrestricted submarine warfare in 1917 in an act of desperation. The blockade was strangling its supply routes.

The US lent vast sums to both sides in WW1. These debts fuelled the reparations set out by Versailles and the devastation of the German economy under the Wiemar republic. There is a strong argument to say that US profiteering in WW1 is a major factor in the "stab-in-the-back" theory which proliferates in past 1919 Germany. The rise of National Socialism and the eventual outbreak of the European theatre of WW2 can be in part attributed to US policy.

Why has Germany taken so long to pay off its WWI debt? - BBC News

dubious eh?

'The ship's sinking provided Britain with a propaganda opportunity, which helped shift public opinion in the United States against Germany, and was a factor in the United States' declaration of war two years later, in 1917.'

i am glad you learned something new today tho.

Mutt · 05-31-2016, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As the US made so much money out of both. I think your question is strange.

It made banks and arms manufacturers money - both World Wars cost the American people a staggering amount. In fact that's why the US became isolationist, they didn't want a repeat of WWI so passed legislation that made it illegal to loan money or sell arms to other countries who were involved in war. As the situation in Europe worsened the prospects of a war between Germany against Britain and France increased so Roosevelt got Congress to agree to selling arms and materials to its allies in Europe only on a cash basis, no credit. By 1941 Britain was out of cash and now at war with Germany, begging America for help, Congress passed the Lend Lease Act which allowed the US to sell whatever and loan money. The world was descending into complete chaos, the American people still wanted no part of another European war as far as direct military involvement. Of course that ended when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

Europe was devastated by WWII, the US emerged from it as the leader of the free world and that sure did have its economic benefits in the post-war era but that wasn't by design. This conspiracy crap that bankers pull the strings of politicians to cause wars is bullshit, what they do is profit from it - and that's a pretty big difference. Banks didn't invent Adolf Hitler.

Britain did get the US into both wars. But it was inevitable, unless you think America can exist in a self contained world of its own. Our wealth is tied to the rest of the world, when the rest of the world, Europe especially, is constantly at war among each other they run out of money and drag the American economy down with them. It wasn't enough to just lend money in WWII, the war would have dragged on without the US fighting in Europe, more destruction and death. And when Russia defeated Germany on its own, all of Europe would have been under the Soviets thumb. It made banks and arms manufacturers money - both World Wars cost the American people a staggering amount. In fact that's why the US became isolationist, they didn't want a repeat of WWI so passed legislation that made it illegal to loan money or sell arms to other countries who were involved in war. As the situation in Europe worsened the prospects of a war between Germany against Britain and France increased so Roosevelt got Congress to agree to selling arms and materials to its allies in Europe only on a cash basis, no credit. By 1941 Britain was out of cash and now at war with Germany, begging America for help, Congress passed the Lend Lease Act which allowed the US to sell whatever and loan money. The world was descending into complete chaos, the American people still wanted no part of another European war as far as direct military involvement. Of course that ended when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

Europe was devastated by WWII, the US emerged from it as the leader of the free world and that sure did have its economic benefits in the post-war era but that wasn't by design. This conspiracy crap that bankers pull the strings of politicians to cause wars is bullshit, what they do is profit from it - and that's a pretty big difference. Banks didn't invent Adolf Hitler.

Britain did get the US into both wars. But it was inevitable, unless you think America can exist in a self contained world of its own. Our wealth is tied to the rest of the world, when the rest of the world, Europe especially, is constantly at war among each other they run out of money and drag the American economy down with them. It wasn't enough to just lend money in WWII, the war would have dragged on without the US fighting in Europe, more destruction and death. And when Russia defeated Germany on its own, all of Europe would have been under the Soviets thumb.

Mutt · 05-31-2016, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

The US lent vast sums to both sides in WW1. These debts fuelled the reparations set out by Versailles and the devastation of the German economy under the Wiemar republic. There is a strong argument to say that US profiteering in WW1 is a major factor in the "stab-in-the-back" theory which proliferates in past 1919 Germany. The rise of National Socialism and the eventual outbreak of the European theatre of WW2 can be in part attributed to US policy.

It's a lesson that was learned - there is no doubt that the Treaty of Versailles punished Germany so severely that it made somebody like Hitler possible. We didn't repeat the mistake after WWII, we helped rebuild Europe including Germany.

Americans felt they were stabbed in the back in WWI, that American boys died and taxpayer money was spent on behalf of bankers whose only concern was the debt they were owed by the British and French.

beerptrol · 05-31-2016, 05:59 AM

Obviously not enough, the herd still needs culled!

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Paul Markham · 05-31-2016, 08:00 AM

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Actually both wars are what put us into debt, well that and the Federal reserve.

Fighting the Wars, maybe. Supplying the Arms and a lot of products to Arm Germany prior to WW2 was very profitable.

The two World Wars changed and built up manufacturing in the US. Fighting cost a lot of lives.

Paul Markham · 05-31-2016, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

It made banks and arms manufacturers money - both World Wars cost the American people a staggering amount. In fact that's why the US became isolationist, they didn't want a repeat of WWI so passed legislation that made it illegal to loan money or sell arms to other countries who were involved in war. As the situation in Europe worsened the prospects of a war between Germany against Britain and France increased so Roosevelt got Congress to agree to selling arms and materials to its allies in Europe only on a cash basis, no credit. By 1941 Britain was out of cash and now at war with Germany, begging America for help, Congress passed the Lend Lease Act which allowed the US to sell whatever and loan money. The world was descending into complete chaos, the American people still wanted no part of another European war as far as direct military involvement. Of course that ended when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

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Without World Bankers giving Hitler money, Germany would never have had the cash to buy raw materials or build it's Armed Forces.

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Europe was devastated by WWII, the US emerged from it as the leader of the free world and that sure did have its economic benefits in the post-war era but that wasn't by design. This conspiracy crap that bankers pull the strings of politicians to cause wars is bullshit, what they do is profit from it - and that's a pretty big difference. Banks didn't invent Adolf Hitler.

Both wars transformed the US into a manufacturing world Power. The conspiracy crap is more than crap. Look at Bush.

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Britain did get the US into both wars. But it was inevitable, unless you think America can exist in a self contained world of its own. Our wealth is tied to the rest of the world, when the rest of the world, Europe especially, is constantly at war among each other they run out of money and drag the American economy down with them. It wasn't enough to just lend money in WWII, the war would have dragged on without the US fighting in Europe, more destruction and death. And when Russia defeated Germany on its own, all of Europe would have been under the Soviets thumb. It made banks and arms manufacturers money - both World Wars cost the American people a staggering amount. In fact that's why the US became isolationist, they didn't want a repeat of WWI so passed legislation that made it illegal to loan money or sell arms to other countries who were involved in war. As the situation in Europe worsened the prospects of a war between Germany against Britain and France increased so Roosevelt got Congress to agree to selling arms and materials to its allies in Europe only on a cash basis, no credit. By 1941 Britain was out of cash and now at war with Germany, begging America for help, Congress passed the Lend Lease Act which allowed the US to sell whatever and loan money. The world was descending into complete chaos, the American people still wanted no part of another European war as far as direct military involvement. Of course that ended when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

It's hard to say what would have happened. Would Stalin resign an agreement with Hitler, would they just cease combat. Where would the US have sold it's goods if Germany had carried on as a manufacturing power?

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Europe was devastated by WWII, the US emerged from it as the leader of the free world and that sure did have its economic benefits in the post-war era but that wasn't by design. This conspiracy crap that bankers pull the strings of politicians to cause wars is bullshit, what they do is profit from it - and that's a pretty big difference. Banks didn't invent Adolf Hitler.

Banks funded him. Germany couldn't afford to build an Army. were they as dumb as some Amricans are thinking the huge Militarisation, would never be used?

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Britain did get the US into both wars. But it was inevitable, unless you think America can exist in a self contained world of its own. Our wealth is tied to the rest of the world, when the rest of the world, Europe especially, is constantly at war among each other they run out of money and drag the American economy down with them. It wasn't enough to just lend money in WWII, the war would have dragged on without the US fighting in Europe, more destruction and death. And when Russia defeated Germany on its own, all of Europe would have been under the Soviets thumb.

Possible. Then who would be the customers for exports?

Paul Markham · 05-31-2016, 08:28 AM

Dyna Moo

Markham, how many Wars has the USA tricked Britain into?

Two and counting.

dyna mo · 05-31-2016, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As the US made so much money out of both. I think your question is strange.

You think it's strange because you're deluded and eons away from reality with your incessant need to run around here wildly exclaiming Trump will start ww3 when it's you and your country that not only tricked USA into both wars, you were complicit in starting both.

PR_Glen · 05-31-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

dubious eh?

'The ship's sinking provided Britain with a propaganda opportunity, which helped shift public opinion in the United States against Germany, and was a factor in the United States' declaration of war two years later, in 1917.'

i am glad you learned something new today tho.

his explanation sounded a lot more likely than yours. Why is this hilarious?

Dirty Dane · 05-31-2016, 09:52 AM

Bush tricked Blair into the third

NewNick · 05-31-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Britain did get the US into both wars.

a) Britain was not the aggressor in either conflict.

b) The Americans will do the right thing after they have exhausted every other alternative.

c) The Armed Forces of The Empire of Japan.

NewNick · 05-31-2016, 10:01 AM

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Bush tricked Blair into the third

I was a Blair fan until he found God and teamed up with that Baboon.

_Richard_ · 05-31-2016, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

his explanation sounded a lot more likely than yours. Why is this hilarious?

likely? as in the debt was the more likely reason they went to war, and not the sinking and killing of US citizens that eventually lead to a sway in public opinion? could there be more than one reason? i haven't disputed that.. i think you are

this is also funny, btw

Paul Markham · 06-01-2016, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

You think it's strange because you're deluded and eons away from reality with your incessant need to run around here wildly exclaiming Trump will start ww3 when it's you and your country that not only tricked USA into both wars, you were complicit in starting both.

Why do you rarely state facts?

Just your opinion based on your lack of knowledge and understanding. Which is displayed in this reply.

TheLegacy · 06-01-2016, 06:30 AM

World War 1 = The simplest answer is that the immediate cause was the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, the archduke of Austria-Hungary.

The United States entered the war because of the Germans' decision to resume the policy of unrestricted submarine warfare, and the so-called "Zimmerman telegram," intercepted by the British, in which Germany floated the idea of an alliance with Mexico.

World War 2 = The two dates most often mentioned as "the beginning of World War II" are July 7, 1937, when the "Marco Polo Bridge Incident" led to a prolonged war between Japan and China, and September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, which led Britain and France to declare war on Hitler's Nazi state in retaliation.

World War 2 = Although the war began with Nazi Germany's attack on Poland in September 1939, the United States did not enter the war until after the Japanese bombed the American fleet in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.

dyna mo · 06-01-2016, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why do you rarely state facts?

Just your opinion based on your lack of knowledge and understanding. Which is displayed in this reply.

what's funny about this is this thread is a fact-based thread for you. but you're too deluded to even realize that.

dave90210 · 06-01-2016, 08:41 AM

The questions should be restated, how many world wars has Paul Markham lived through?

dyna mo · 06-01-2016, 08:41 AM

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The questions should be restated, how many world wars has Paul Markham lived through?

markham, tell us what it was like at the battle of verdun.

Paul Markham · 06-01-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dave90210

The questions should be restated, how many world wars has Paul Markham lived through?

No world wars. Lived through a lot of wars though.

Korea
Vietnam
Laos & Cambodia
Cambodian Campaign
Cuba: The Bay of Pigs Invasion,
Invasion of Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Libya: First Gulf of Sidra incident,
Lebanon: Multinational Force in Lebanon,
Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury,
Libya: Action in the Gulf of Sidra (1986),
Persian Gulf: Operation Nimble Archer.
Honduras: Operation Golden Pheasant
Iraq and Kuwait: Gulf War,
Bosnia and Herzegovina
War in Afghanistan:
The War on Terror

Too many to list. Seems the US has to find excuses for manufacturing all the arms it has. Which one of these wars solved the problems and which ones created more?

When you open a door, be sure it doesn't swing back and hit you in the face.

dyna mo · 06-01-2016, 09:10 AM

markham's too obtuse to comprehend the world and his place in it.

that's why he incessantly needs to point his finger at USA.

pimpmaster9000 · 06-01-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No world wars. Lived through a lot of wars though.

Korea
Vietnam
Laos & Cambodia
Cambodian Campaign
Cuba: The Bay of Pigs Invasion,
Invasion of Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Libya: First Gulf of Sidra incident,
Lebanon: Multinational Force in Lebanon,
Grenada: Operation Urgent Fury,
Libya: Action in the Gulf of Sidra (1986),
Persian Gulf: Operation Nimble Archer.
Honduras: Operation Golden Pheasant
Iraq and Kuwait: Gulf War,
Bosnia and Herzegovina
War in Afghanistan:
The War on Terror

Too many to list. Seems the US has to find excuses for manufacturing all the arms it has. Which one of these wars solved the problems and which ones created more?

When you open a door, be sure it doesn't swing back and hit you in the face.

kosovo too

kosovo is now free FREE and its loosing 5% of its population to the EU each year...in 15 years there will be like 25% of the population there and I will go get the bill clinton statue from pristina!

this baby will be mine and in my back yard, I am prepared to take it with force...I love the fuck out of this statue

dyna mo · 06-01-2016, 11:22 AM

kosovo was hardly a war.

USA went in and kicked your fucking punk asses while you cowered in the bomb craters, then we high-5ed each other while building a fucking statue.

AHAHAHAhahahahahahahaha

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