Obama should ban assault style weapons now. executive order effective ASAP.

[dyna mo]

get real BO.

[mineistaken]

Barry Hussein

[galleryseek]

1. Ban assault weapons.
2. Good people with good intentions can't access assault weapons.
3. Bad guys with bad intentions use the black market to purchase said assault weapons.
4. Bad guys effectively become more armed than the good guys via legislation.
5. Problem either stays the same or gets worse; but definitely not better.

[dyna mo]

1.there is one thing in common with the 90+% of all mass shootings in the USA and that's assault style weapons.
2.We can start there.
3.it's a circular argument to say we can't outlaw assault style weapons because assault style weapons will always be available.
4.people will always drive over the speed limit too.
5.we don't get rid of speed limits on account of them.

[pimpmaster9000]

what does a normal citizen want with an assault rifle anyway?...I understand a handgun...it is not the citizens job to fight bad guys with assault weapons anyway, he should call the cops...

[Relic]

When things are this contrived, the gay mafia has struck again.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Relic

When things are this contrived, the gay mafia has struck again.

exactly. that's a big part of what this solution would/could address, mass shootings and corresponding gay mafia drama. get rid of that and we can then take a better look at the bigger, more widespread and common problems with gun violence.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

1.there is one thing in common with the 90+% of all mass shootings in the USA and that's assault style weapons.
2.We can start there.
3.it's a circular argument to say we can't outlaw assault style weapons because assault style weapons will always be available.
4.people will always drive over the speed limit too.
5.we don't get rid of speed limits on account of them.

1. There's one thing in common with 100% of all drowning deaths, and that's water. Ban water.
2. Okay, Lol.
3. Based on economics, where there's a demand, there will be a supply. Once you understand this basic fact, the only question is whether or not you want criminals feeding the supply, or legit business owners. (Personally, I like the black market, because fuck business licenses and taxation).
4-5. Not an accurate comparison -- Getting rid of speed limits is likely to increase accidents, but getting rid of gun control is likely to curtail violent gun related incidents. We see this in neighborhoods with high gun ownership.

[mikesouth]

Ya I mean look how well that has worked for drugs......

I mean it HAD to be the gun, Islam is such a peace loving religion ya know

Besides you dont need to ever protect yourself, after all call 911 and while waiting for them to get there tell the bad guy what a peace loving, understanding human being you are.

Put a big sign in your front yard stating that you have no guns in the house, I am sure that will deter any bad guys to move to the house next door that says this house protected by Smith and Wesson.

[dyna mo]

another great reason for BO to ban assault style weapons right here right now. it will prove whether or not assault style weapons are the problem.

BO should also execute an executive order to close the loophole on purchasing guns at gun shows effective ASAP. i'm thinking that may need its own thread.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

1. There's one thing in common with 100% of all drowning deaths, and that's water. Ban water.

Water isn't used to kill people. Not to mention without water we would all die.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Water isn't used to kill people. Not to mention without water we would all die.

Water *can* be used to kill people (waterboarding, excessive water consumption)..

Guns *can* be used to kill people (instances where it's not, they can be used for target practice, sustenance, and kill those initiating force against us, etc..)

[MFCT]

So this ban would be one thing that law-breaking, law-ignoring criminals DO obey? How so?

Seems the only demographic this ban would realistically apply to, are the people who already obey the laws anyway. Which kinda makes it beside the point.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by MFCT

So this ban would be one thing that law-breaking, law-ignoring criminals DO obey? How so?

Seems the only demographic this ban would realistically apply to, are the people who already obey the laws anyway. Which kinda makes it beside the point.

Stop it, you're making too much sense and that hurts liberals heads. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

Anyhow, ban everything (which really are just scribbles on pieces of paper)..

It won't matter. Eventually everyone will be able to 3d print their own weapons. And in the mean time, would-be mass-killers will just find other ways if they can't attain weapons through the black market (which they'd have to be RETARDED not to).. Such as bombs.

[2MuchMark]

[MK Ultra]

I for one, don't blame the shovel for the hole.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by MFCT

So this ban would be one thing that law-breaking, law-ignoring criminals DO obey? How so?

Seems the only demographic this ban would realistically apply to, are the people who already obey the laws anyway. Which kinda makes it beside the point.

Mass shooters obey the law right up until they, you know, go mass shooting.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

Stop it, you're making too much sense and that hurts liberals heads. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

Anyhow, ban everything (which really are just scribbles on pieces of paper)..

It won't matter. Eventually everyone will be able to 3d print their own weapons. And in the mean time, would-be mass-killers will just find other ways if they can't attain weapons through the black market (which they'd have to be RETARDED not to).. Such as bombs.

I see. You're in the it's too late to change things category. What you lack comprehending you refer to as cognitive dissonance and liberal head mumbo jumbo. I truly couldn't careless about labels and bullshit. I can go there. I'll pass.

[MiamiBoyz]

HE would IF he wan't a Huge Gaping PUSSY BOY

[Hannes]

well either way if a person wants the weapon bad enough, they'll find a way to get it.

[420]

I know it's fun to argue but look at the facts. More Than 80 Percent of Guns Used in Mass Shootings Obtained Legally - NBC News

[videobunch]

Logic of banning guns is like if this nut job drove his car into the building killing the same and injuring the same. Do you ban all cars or just the type of car they drove?

Yes I have AR and I hunt animals I eat with it. Took a dear last year with mine and will do the same again this year. Am I bi est on this topic, Yes. Would I walk into a room and kill several people, Hell no because i am not nuts

I am not saying there is not a prob going on with people getting weapons they should not have but we need to look at more than just guns and try to find out how and why this keeps happening.

Bad people are going to do bad things period. Bombs are illegal yet bad people still can get them or make them.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Relic

...the gay mafia has struck again.

When you least expect it

[pimpmaster9000]

[brassmonkey]

all religions have an ugly side. banning guns it is way too late! you can print guns now.

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Ya I mean look how well that has worked for drugs......

I mean it HAD to be the gun, Islam is such a peace loving religion ya know

Besides you dont need to ever protect yourself, after all call 911 and while waiting for them to get there tell the bad guy what a peace loving, understanding human being you are.

Put a big sign in your front yard stating that you have no guns in the house, I am sure that will deter any bad guys to move to the house next door that says this house protected by Smith and Wesson.

[brassmonkey]

does not matter if you obey the laws they want to punish you.

Originally Posted by videobunch

Logic of banning guns is like if this nut job drove his car into the building killing the same and injuring the same. Do you ban all cars or just the type of car they drove?

Yes I have AR and I hunt animals I eat with it. Took a dear last year with mine and will do the same again this year. Am I bi est on this topic, Yes. Would I walk into a room and kill several people, Hell no because i am not nuts

I am not saying there is not a prob going on with people getting weapons they should not have but we need to look at more than just guns and try to find out how and why this keeps happening.

Bad people are going to do bad things period. Bombs are illegal yet bad people still can get them or make them.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

1. Ban assault weapons.
2. Good people with good intentions can't access assault weapons.
3. Bad guys with bad intentions use the black market to purchase said assault weapons.
4. Bad guys effectively become more armed than the good guys via legislation.
5. Problem either stays the same or gets worse; but definitely not better.

Can you tell me which one of these were committed by people buying guns on the black market. Mass Shootings - 2016 | Gun Violence Archive

June 12, 2016 Florida Orlando 1912 S Orange Avenue 51 49

June 11, 2016 Minnesota Webster 4000 block of Elmore Avenue 0 4

June 11, 2016 California Stockton Alvarado Avenue 1 3

June 11, 2016 California Panorama City 8500 block of Cedros Avenue 3 2

June 11, 2016 New Mexico Roswell 2300 block of Davis Ave 5 0

June 11, 2016 North Carolina Charlotte 4000 block of Collegiate Avenue 1 3

June 9, 2016 Florida Fort Walton Beach Landview Drive 0 4

June 8, 2016 Massachusetts Boston 66 Washington St 1 3

June 8, 2016 District of Columbia Washington North Capitol Street and New York Avenue NW 0 4

June 6, 2016 California Visalia 33 60 South Fairway Street 0 4

June 5, 2016 Minnesota Minneapolis 8th and Humboldt Avenue N. 0 4

June 5, 2016 Florida Cape Coral 2600 block of Skyline Boulevard S 3 3

June 5, 2016 New York Brooklyn Mermaid Ave and 16th St. 0 4

June 5, 2016 Arizona Phoenix 8152 N Black Canyon Hwy 2 5

June 4, 2016 Colorado Denver 3600 block of Hudson Street 3 1


May 31, 2016 Illinois Chicago 3300 block of West Huron Street 0 4

May 31, 2016 Indiana Fort Wayne 6600 block of Pawawna Drive 0 4

May 30, 2016 Maryland Baltimore 500 block of East 43rd Street 0 5

May 30, 2016 California Sacramento 3900 block of 44th 0 5

May 29, 2016 Nevada Las Vegas 200 block of North 3rd Street 0 4

May 29, 2016 Texas Houston 13210 Memorial Drive 2 6

May 29, 2016 New Jersey Trenton 600 block of Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard

May 29, 2016 Indiana Indianapolis 300 block of South Meridian Street 0 4

May 23, 2016 New Jersey Newark 102 Isabella Avenue 0 5

May 22, 2016 Louisiana New Orleans 8639 Apple St 0 4

That's just page one and there are 6 more pages to go through. As it's only June.

If you can't. You are wrong.

[MrBottomTooth]

A less drastic step would be to limit magazine size for assault style weapons. In Canada there is a limit of 5 rounds. Makes it harder to pull off mass executions like this. Would take a long time to get all the large magazines off the streets but it would probably be a step in the right direction.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

1. There's one thing in common with 100% of all drowning deaths, and that's water. Ban water.
2. Okay, Lol.
3. Based on economics, where there's a demand, there will be a supply. Once you understand this basic fact, the only question is whether or not you want criminals feeding the supply, or legit business owners. (Personally, I like the black market, because fuck business licenses and taxation).
4-5. Not an accurate comparison -- Getting rid of speed limits is likely to increase accidents, but getting rid of gun control is likely to curtail violent gun related incidents. We see this in neighborhoods with high gun ownership.

There's one thing in common with 100% of guns, and that's shooting them.

There's one thing in common with 100% of all assault weapons, semi-automatic, large magazines and that's they shoot more times making hitting more things easier.

And in a country with this level of violance so loved by so many.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

[brassmonkey]

drug and gang related dogg. they are so many gangs in there it's crazy there are not more shootings.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Can you tell me which one of these were committed by people buying guns on the black market. Mass Shootings - 2016 | Gun Violence Archive

June 5, 2016 Arizona Phoenix 8152 N Black Canyon Hwy 2 5


That's just page one and there are 6 more pages to go through. As it's only June.

If you can't. You are wrong.

[Paul Markham]

I am not saying there is not a prob going on with people getting weapons they should not have but we need to look at more than just guns and try to find out how and why this keeps happening.

Bad people are going to do bad things period. Bombs are illegal yet bad people still can get them or make them.

There's an easy way to deter these type of mass shootings. More security.

If you insist on allowing this level of free access to tools for killing, it's common sense to have better security.

Public areas are very vulnerable. So airport-type scanners on all entrances with armed security to deter shooters. It's like a burglar alarm on your house or brakes on your car. Never 100% just better than nothing, which is the present system. The latest could have been prevented with better security. Add that to all public places and all he can do is shoot fewer people on the street.

And who will pay for the costs? Gun buyers who insist on keeping their guns and the gun making/selling industry.

Or do nothing and hope it's not someone you know next time. Because at the moment, it's not if it happens again, it's how many more times will it happen this month?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Why do you think they call them "ASSAULT" weapons? d'Oh?

You don't buy one when deer season opens.
You buy one when 'human season' opens ...
Or, as a defense weapon against people -- the other legitimate use.
It seems 10% of the population of Afghanistan carry Kalashnikovs -- how is that working out?

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

1.there is one thing in common with the 90+% of all mass shootings in the USA and that's assault style weapons.
2.We can start there.
3.it's a circular argument to say we can't outlaw assault style weapons because assault style weapons will always be available.
4.people will always drive over the speed limit too.
5.we don't get rid of speed limits on account of them.

There's the Republican argument again, equating things that get us from point A to B, like cars -- and things that are made to kill people quickly, like assault rifles. They're not the same thing. You can't drive your AR 15 to work, so it's not an essential part of your life and is not the same thing as a car just because cars kill people also.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

Water *can* be used to kill people (waterboarding, excessive water consumption)..

Guns *can* be used to kill people (instances where it's not, they can be used for target practice, sustenance, and kill those initiating force against us, etc..)

But you can't walk into a nightclub with a squirtgun and kill 50 people. Maybe someone will die laughing.

Everyone on the gun side of this argument is very bad at making analogies and points.

And by the way, I don't hate guns at all. I actually love them and in the past have built my own Ar 15 through mail order. But as a sane, responsible person I just think it needs to be tougher for obvious nutcases like this shooter to get his hands on a military grade killing instrument.

[brassmonkey]

i don't care about your bullshit logic! most people with assault weapons stay within the law.

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Why do you think they call them "ASSAULT" weapons? d'Oh?

You don't buy one when deer season opens.
You buy one when 'human season' opens ...
Or, as a defense weapon against people -- the other legitimate use.
It seems 10% of the population of Afghanistan carry Kalashnikovs -- how is that working out?

people run people over with cars not by accident. you wanna ban cars? nope!

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

all religions have an ugly side. banning guns it is way too late! you can print guns now.

Can you print barrels too?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

i don't care about your bullshit logic! most people with assault weapons stay within the law. t



people run people over with cars not by accident. you wanna ban cars? nope!

I gotz no homie logic.

I know what how to kill deer and I now how to kill men.

The car analogy is lame.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Let me suggest something --as an owner of firearms: Just require a permit to own an assault weapon just like what is done now with handguns.

It will not stop illegal ownership and criminal use of handguns and assault rifles but it will prevent nut-cases from buying an assault weapon and the next day going postal is a crowded venue like that gay bar this weekend in Orlando.

And don't start a war you cannot finish This is exclusive of domestic terrorism (I guess?) ...

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

There's the Republican argument again, equating things that get us from point A to B, like cars -- and things that are made to kill people quickly, like assault rifles. They're not the same thing. You can't drive your AR 15 to work, so it's not an essential part of your life and is not the same thing as a car just because cars kill people also.

You don't get it at all. My point was there can be sensible legislation, just like elsewhere.

Where on the planet is there a Republican starting threads about banning firearms?

Heads up: there isn't.

Use your head, read the title, try and figure something out that's over your head for once. That's how people get smarter.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by 420

I know it's fun to argue but look at the facts. More Than 80 Percent of Guns Used in Mass Shootings Obtained Legally - NBC News

Exactly. It's more than reasonable to think that an assault style weapons ban would have an immediate and profound effect on curbing mass shootings.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

You don't get it at all. My point was there can be sensible legislation, just like elsewhere.

Where on the planet is there a Republican starting threads about banning firearms?

Heads up: there isn't.

Use your head, read the title, try and figure something out that's over your head for once. That's how people get smarter.

I did read the title....and I don't believe for one second you're on that side of the argument. I took it as deadpan sarcasm, which is what it is.

This is you trying to be enigmatic and failing.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by bronco67

I did read the title....and I don't believe for one second you're on that side of the argument. I took it as deadpan sarcasm, which is what it is.

This is you trying to be enigmatic and failing.

claims the reject that doesn't even know what a quote is for and uses that ignorance to try and accuse me of plagiarism elsewhere.

you're delusional paranoid reject that probably has a substance abuse issue on top of being uneducated and a simpleton.

so let's add up all the shit about me you run around here exclaiming i'm disingenuous about:

1. bernie sanders support

2. trying to claim credit for a quote i quoted.

3. not being a republican

4. wanting sensible gun legislation



what a reject. think what you want, you're a paranoid freak.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by videobunch

Logic of banning guns is like if this nut job drove his car into the building killing the same and injuring the same. Do you ban all cars or just the type of car they drove?

Yes I have AR and I hunt animals I eat with it. Took a dear last year with mine and will do the same again this year. Am I bi est on this topic, Yes. Would I walk into a room and kill several people, Hell no because i am not nuts

I am not saying there is not a prob going on with people getting weapons they should not have but we need to look at more than just guns and try to find out how and why this keeps happening.

Bad people are going to do bad things period. Bombs are illegal yet bad people still can get them or make them.

The word is biased

[SuckOnThis]

[clarka77]

I thought to bare arms was a 'right' not a 'priviledge'

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Exactly.

Here's some facts to back that up.

The GOP-controlled Senate refusal to pass new gun control measures came weeks after the Washington Post reported that suspected terrorists had successfully purchased more than 2,000 guns from American dealers between 2004 and 2014, even though law enforcement is notified whenever someone on the FBI?s watchlist attempts to purchase a firearm.

Also on Thursday, the Senate failed to pass another bill that would have expanded background checks to gun show and online firearms sales. The measure would also prevents convicted felons and the mentally ill from having access to weapons.



Source: GOP blocks bill to stop terrorists from buying guns | MSNBC

[SuckOnThis]

I really would like to know why we can't buy nuclear weapons at Walmart.

The 2nd Amendment says we have a right to bear arms, nuclear weapons are considered arms, so wtf?

Nuclear weapons are inanimate objects, they can't go off by themselves.

Criminals don't obey laws, so obviously thousands of criminals are walking around with nukes.

There are thousands of responsible nuclear weapon owners throughout the world that have not used their nukes to harm a single person.

So c'mon NRA, get with it already!

[C H R I S]

It's quite simple:

In Europe where they have strict gun laws there are little or no mass shootings by lone nut jobs. (Paris was a planned terrorist attack).

Here we have mass shootings on a weekly or at least monthly basis, it's accepted as the norm.

Doing nothing will continue the regular bloodshed.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Should we ban BB guns too?