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Old 06-24-2016, 03:01 PM   #1
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So is amerinoc going to be down from 8 pm to 6 am?

They are doing a physical server move. Got an email about it. Are our sites actually going to be down that long? Jeez.
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Probably a good idea to do a backup before that.
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:46 PM   #3
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I don't understand... what are they going to do? Shut down ALL of the servers, physically load them up into trucks, and then haul them over, and bring them all up at the same time? And hope everything comes back up properly?


When Nat Net moved to their new location I don't remember any downtime.... Then again, I just have one small single server.
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Old 06-24-2016, 04:55 PM   #4
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I don't understand... what are they going to do? Shut down ALL of the servers, physically load them up into trucks, and then haul them over, and bring them all up at the same time? And hope everything comes back up properly?


When Nat Net moved to their new location I don't remember any downtime.... Then again, I just have one small single server.
Apparently yes. They are physically transporting all servers.
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Dear Customer:

As a reminder, we will begin a physical move of all active servers tonight at 8:00 PM PDT (GMT-7). We expect the equipment to be at the new facility by tomorrow at 6:00 AM PDT (GMT-7) at which time services will start going online. There will be experienced teams of logistics staff on both ends of this move to ensure that everything goes smoothly.

We are implementing these changes to increase the security and reliability of the service we provide to our customers. We thank you in advance for your patience and understanding. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to ask.

Thank you,
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Moving data centers is a bitch last time I did it had about that much downtime
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If only i read that email before i went to bed last night:/

Not alone is Saturday morning our top time of the week, we also could have stopped our expensive FB Ads (1000s of people), backed up our servers and put up other things on store related pages.

I'm already afraid this is gonna take a lot longer than till 6AM (which means the entire day here since we're 9 hrs ahead).

Crossing fingers ....
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If only i read that email before i went to bed last night:/

Not alone is Saturday morning our top time of the week, we also could have stopped our expensive FB Ads (1000s of people), backed up our servers and put up other things on store related pages.

I'm already afraid this is gonna take a lot longer than till 6AM (which means the entire day here since we're 9 hrs ahead).

Crossing fingers ....
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I don't get how this company stays in business. Seems there's more complaints than hostgator .
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Well it's after 6 am and sites still down. Let's see for how long.
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Their email said services will start going online after 6am. Presumably we'll get another email when things are up and running.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:27 AM   #14
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Hour and a half and counting.
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They sent an email a couple of weeks ago saying they were going to move its not like it unexpected.
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They sent an email a couple of weeks ago saying they were going to move its not like it unexpected.
They didn't mention another 12 hours+ downtime in the email a week ago.
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Old 06-25-2016, 05:18 AM   #17
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I wonder though, why not get some small server somewhere and place a nice, friendly message for all of their/our visitors on a 1kb html page stating that things are being moved or back up shortly. ANYTHING is better than "server not found" for so long, people think we're out of business like this, bad Google/Facebook reputation etc..

If we were having 10k$ days, I probably wouldn't accept this, ever.
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Servers are in motion....
As in: being unloaded from a truck, which is litterally, in motion, or resolving to getting back up.

Which brings me to another question: is it likely that IP's are gonna change? This would mean we'd have to get whitelisted on several places again, buy renewed licenses for serverchanges etc.. Hopefully, it will not be that painful.
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Surely if that were the case they'd have mentioned it? Or at least you'd think so.
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They didn't mention another 12 hours+ downtime in the email a week ago.
Sorry but i dont understand what you mean by 12 hours haven't they only over run by just over 1 hour so far?
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As in: being unloaded from a truck, which is litterally, in motion, or resolving to getting back up.

Which brings me to another question: is it likely that IP's are gonna change? This would mean we'd have to get whitelisted on several places again, buy renewed licenses for serverchanges etc.. Hopefully, it will not be that painful.
If ip address change its news to me

But if they do its going to really screw with my business as 30+ of my client websites use my ip address. Monday morning is going to be fun.
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Still nothing though... :/
I expected it to take a little longer.. It's right now 7:15 PDT so it's only over a hour so far.. I just dns redirected a few of my biggest domains so I'm not losing 11 hours of traffic.

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I expected it to take a little longer.. It's right now 7:15 PDT so it's only over a hour so far.. I just dns redirected a few of my biggest domains so I'm not losing 11 hours of traffic.
We run stores, not really possible to redirect DNS ;/
This is the second time this past few months that is has been offline for this long though, last time for us.

I have never heard of downtime this long in the past 20 (?) years. It's sad really, just shouldn't happen.

We need to think of another strategy:/

Also, would have been nice if they'd warn us a few times this week, no just 14 days ago and then like a few minutes before. Who has time to think of this all day when doing actual business:/

Could have made some last backups as well then.
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Sorry but i dont understand what you mean by 12 hours haven't they only over run by just over 1 hour so far?
I'm getting my time zones mixed up I guess.
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In fairness to AmeriNOC, they did issue multiple warnings and they're doing a fairly good job of providing updates through Twitter. As of 7:50 am pacific (or am 10:50 am eastern):

"Servers arrived @ 6 AM as scheduled, still takes time to rack, cable then power back up servers, there are a lot of servers involved."
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As in: being unloaded from a truck, which is litterally, in motion, or resolving to getting back up.

Which brings me to another question: is it likely that IP's are gonna change? This would mean we'd have to get whitelisted on several places again, buy renewed licenses for serverchanges etc.. Hopefully, it will not be that painful.
"Several clients have asked about IP's, they will not change as part of the migration, the servers will come back online with the same IP's."

I was worried about this too, glad it's been answered.
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Still down. There goes the Saturday. 18.05hrs here now.
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there are ways to always stay up but they require multiple servers and alot of work to setup

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We run stores, not really possible to redirect DNS ;/
This is the second time this past few months that is has been offline for this long though, last time for us.

I have never heard of downtime this long in the past 20 (?) years. It's sad really, just shouldn't happen.

We need to think of another strategy:/

Also, would have been nice if they'd warn us a few times this week, no just 14 days ago and then like a few minutes before. Who has time to think of this all day when doing actual business:/

Could have made some last backups as well then.
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still down... +3 and half hours after servers delivery
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Are you up?

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Up but server time is showing as 07.33
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Where have they physically moved the servers to? Who is their new upstream provider?
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All 5 boxes I have are still down.
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Where have they physically moved the servers to? Who is their new upstream provider?
from the june 3rd email it looks like Tempe, AZ

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AmeriNOC is pleased to announce that we are moving to a new state-of-the-art data center in Tempe, Arizona. The new facility will allow us to guarantee that complete outages like we suffered in April at the hands of an independent data center provider will never happen again.

AmeriNOC acquired the new data center so that we will have complete and direct control of our servers to better address the specific needs of our customers. The facility is equipped with 1.25MW of power with redundant, geographically-diverse fiber optic connections capable of providing up to 160Gb of Internet connectivity. The facility is staffed 24x7 by AmeriNOC employees to ensure someone is always on hand to react to any issue.

In combination with the move, we are launching a new billing and account management system. The new Account Manager integrates all account control, including billing, support, bandwidth and server control, into a single, easy to use interface. In preparation for the importing of all user and account information into this new system, billing through WHMCS was suspended on May 26th and any PayPal subscriptions are cancelled. When the account information is setup in the new Account Manager, we will notify you with access details and invoicing will resume.

We will begin a physical move of all active servers on June 24, 2016 at 8:00 PM PDT (GMT-7). We expect the equipment to be at the new facility by June 25th at 6:00 AM PDT (GMT-7) at which time services will start going online. There will be experienced teams of logistics staff on both ends of this move to ensure that everything goes smoothly.

We are implementing these changes to increase the security and reliability of the service we provide to our customers. We thank you in advance for your patience and understanding. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to ask.


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I'm still down but as I said.. I've been still making money redirecting domains cause I thought it might take longer.
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Has anyone with shared plans noticed a resumption in service? I have a few and there's no indication of service having been restored.
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