Paperstreetcash PPS scam. Beware!

[mobstriker]

Hello!

I'm almost 3 years in business. Today I meet first scam in my adult career))

Here is the history)

One day I saw here Paperstreetcash.
I didn't work with these guys before.
I decided to try them. I was sending traffic to them until I reached minimum payout.
It was $120. The hold was one month and I returned to my old aff. program.
This week I expected first payout.

But instead I saw first email from Zak))

This is Zak from PaperStreetCash.com. I am contacting you today because unfortunately your account has been flagged for suspicious traffic and/or sales.

I've been reviewing your account, and a few things jump out as suspicious to us. We must clarify these issues with you before we can send out any payments.

First, your account does not have a live URL listed. ..... is not a live site, and is clearly not how you are driving traffic to our sites. Secondly, the traffic you have sent us appears quite odd. It is not consistent at all, with more than 15,000 unique hits coming from 5/18/16 - 5/26/16, and little to no traffic outside of that. Further, we cannot determine from where we are receiving these unique hits. Your referring URLs do not show any sites that you have to promote our content, only google/search engine URLs from various countries.

Of course, I sent my answer. I planned to register my own staff site. Maybe later i'll do it.
In your settings this is company url, but not url from which affiliate should send traffic.


This is my stat with them.




And today I received the final email))

Good Afternoon,

After further review of your account, sales, and traffic, we've come to the conclusion that the sales we've received from you were not made in good faith and we will be refunding your members for the following reasons:
1. Member IP addresses and join IP addresses not matching.
2. Suspicious members area activity/inactivity; and
3. referral URLs not showing a proper traffic source - all referring URLs are search engine links, there are no discernable sources of traffic.
As such, we cannot make pay you the amount that would be owed to you had these sales and traffic been legitimate.

1. I don't know what ips you mean. I sent you 20K real human users. I think Zak you invented this reason during morning beer))
2. What does this mean Suspicious members. If you can't interested your customers - is it my problem?
3. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

If you think, that you have right insult me by your dirty suspicions - you're wrong. You are not first with whome I make deal in this business.

You lie because you don't want to pay. I worked honestly and you not, man. Oh, sorry - you are not a man - you are scammer.

[Paper_Zak]

I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

[mobstriker]

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak

I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

bla bla bla. No proof at all. Just your words.

[Major (Tom)]

Sounds like Zak did his due diligence.

[C H R I S]

Paperstreet is solid company, they are among the top programs in this biz for a reason.

If the sales were valid they would pay, they wouldnt risk their A++++ reputation over $100.00

[BigFurry]

I have only the best experience with PaperStreetCash and Zak.

It's normal that programs investigate if the sales and the traffic look strange.

[TheDynasty]

Paperstreet Rocks! wish i had more time to promote them

[brassmonkey]

you need to be banned op and this thread erased </thread>

[Miguel T]

Lol, Paperstreet scam??? For a 100$ ??
Lol

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

That's the problem.. You're buying the wrong traffic.

[plaster]

Just curious, what's the method to fake the url referrer as google? Couldn't he be buying clicks with his affiliate id?

I'm curious because I've never caught fraud from referral that was from google.

[bloggerz]

top notch guys at Paper Street Cash. Maybe you should question your traffic provider (who you bought the traffic from) as maybe they are sending you bullshit traffic

[AaronM]

The only possible scammer I'm seeing here is the OP.

Props to how you've handled everything so far Zak.

[mobstriker]

It's not very honest for company to make profit using PPS model in such way. I gave him sales (PAY PER SALE). I have 5 sales in my stat.

Some customers will have rebills, some of them - no.
Some customers use proxy services , some - no.

Does it means that sale is bad?
Does they send wrong credit card?
Does they send wrong names?

If I have all risk using PPS, for what PPS needed? There is RevShare model is better.
Am I wrong?


Zak made in my stat 3 refunds in one day? Jul 7th, 2016? Why not 5 refunds, if all my sales is full shit?

This means that I have 2 valid sales at least?

I thinks PPS model is not good choice for Paperstreetcash. I made my money honestly.
That's my opinion.

If someone wants to work in "Zak's PPS style" - that's his choice.

[lovebitch]

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak

I'm sorry you feel this way, Alex. Our reputation as a site and program is solid on adult forums.

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious, and like all sales we make, is subject to a fraud check.

If you can provide us with referrals from other programs like ours (Mindgeek, NaughtyAmerica, etc.) and can get someone from those programs to vouch for you, we will reconsider. Feel free to have any references you have contact me via email, skype, or ICQ.

Sent you an email Please check

[Markul]

I've never had an issue with PSC. Also never had a complaint from any of the 169 webmasters I referred to them.

These guys are good guys

[NoWhErE]

mobstriker, do you have an account with us or any other program on this board? I'm sure any one of us would be happy to vouch for you if you have any history with them.

[Twoface31]

ummmm is this real

[Porko]

Paperstreetcash = Great guys

[HowlingWulf]

I think PSC explained their reasons well. I'm a little surprised they went into that much detail.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Zuzana Miguel

Lol, Paperstreet scam??? For a 100$ ??
Lol

LOL, this is what I was thinking. You really think a program is going to risk their reputation over $100?

[fris]

Originally Posted by Porko

Paperstreetcash = Great guys

yes they are, odds are the signups were used by stolen cc's for trials.

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

Some customers will have rebills, some of them - no.
Some customers use proxy services , some - no.

Correct but what about this :

2. Suspicious members area activity/inactivity;

Inactivity meaning that some people signed up and then never checked out the membersarea. I fully understand that sales get flagged then and so should you.
It is odd that a person pays money to check out the content and then does not check out the content.

[Pyewacket]

I am new to Paper Street Cash and joined after I read tons of other reviews about them. Their content is great, their materials well above a lot of the other sites. In short, I am happy with them.

So, if I understand this right, the OP bought traffic only until he hit his minimum payout and then turned off the tap. Bought traffic isn't always the best qualified, and many programs warn their advertisers to stay away from it. How did these people end up at a PSC site? Did the OP do anything but buy traffic? Did he even set up a site or blog to show samples of the sites?

Legit programs expect you will have a live site or blog that you will use to promote them, not that you are going to hand your linking information to some traffic broker. The sponsor should be able to check your site out to see how you are promoting them at any time. To do anything other than that is to cheat the sponsor. Word to the wise - play by the rules and don't buy traffic.

[Feng-PD]

PSC are one of the best people in the biz!

[kimberlyann]

PSC would not risk their rep for such a small amount. They are a well know company. I have paid affiliates more only to find later that the joins were actually fraud. I commend Zak for being efficient and checking the stats

[The Porn Nerd]

PSC is a fine company, I promote them in my Members Areas. OP is off base here and this thread should be deleted.

[fuzebox]

[TrafficRush]

I'm just here for the free popcorn.. wait no free popcorn???

I'm outta here! LOL

[Denny]

Sorry man, but I don't think PSC is going to ruin their reputation for $120

[Relentless]

Have worked with paperstreet for years and years... Always been terrific to work with.

[Paper_Sal]

Friends and affiliates of PSC. Thank you for the kind words.

Salima

#10yrsLaterMyFirstPost

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by TrafficRush

I'm just here for the free popcorn.. wait no free popcorn???

I'm outta here! LOL

I'll give you free popcorn if you don't use a popcorn-bucket-ad-blocker

[dillfly2000]

Had the same issue a long while back with FNcash.
I learned the hard way that buying traffic without doing my research can result in no pay and/a good banning. Yeah it sucks when it happens to you without notice. I mean after all you did nothing wrong, and if it's not your fault, it's usually the scummy shitty shady traffic providers, aaaand Therein lays the problem. you deal with shit people, you're most likely gonna end up in the same toilette with them just waiting to be flushed.

Cut your losses and move on.

[Harambe]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

Hello!

I'm almost 3 years in business. Today I meet first scam in my adult career))

Here is the history)

One day I saw here Paperstreetcash.
I didn't work with these guys before.
I decided to try them. I was sending traffic to them until I reached minimum payout.
It was $120. The hold was one month and I returned to my old aff. program.
This week I expected first payout.

But instead I saw first email from Zak))




Of course, I sent my answer. I planned to register my own staff site. Maybe later i'll do it.
In your settings this is company url, but not url from which affiliate should send traffic.


This is my stat with them.




And today I received the final email))



1. I don't know what ips you mean. I sent you 20K real human users. I think Zak you invented this reason during morning beer))
2. What does this mean Suspicious members. If you can't interested your customers - is it my problem?
3. I buy traffic I say you again. If you can't see refferer - push email to your web-developers and not to me.

All sales was made by real human!

If you think, that you have right insult me by your dirty suspicions - you're wrong. You are not first with whome I make deal in this business.

You lie because you don't want to pay. I worked honestly and you not, man. Oh, sorry - you are not a man - you are scammer.

mobstriker , mobstriker , mobstriker, mobstriker, mobstriker, mobstriker scammer scammer scammer scammer scammer

[wehateporn]

Someone sold you some fake traffic, then tried to make it look like it was worth buying more by doing fake $1 signups?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by fris

yes they are, odds are the signups were used by stolen cc's for trials.

No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak, why are you refunding on these sales when they could be legit?

Would it not be best for business interest to hold the money for longer, not refund, see what happens & then take matters in due course. This way, the op, maybe paid for his possibly legitimate hard work & paperstreet receive sales monthly

BTW, any GFYers having a go at op when he's already explained, it's his first company to work for, shame on you, if he's legit

[gnawledge]

This has to be some Indian scammer or Croatian farmer just new to the Internet. Paper street cash is a solid well playing company. It sounds like you were on black hat forum a little too much and decided to try out some kiddie ways of fraud and were caught red handed.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by mobstriker

Hello!

More join hits then uniques... things that make you go hmmmm...

[CPA-Rush]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak,

yes

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

it's his first company to work for,

no

[Harambe]

Originally Posted by GspotProductions

No one mentioned the cards were stolen & no one said the sales were fraud, only looked suspicious. Asking Zak, why are you refunding on these sales when they could be legit?

Would it not be best for business interest to hold the money for longer, not refund, see what happens & then take matters in due course. This way, the op, maybe paid for his possibly legitimate hard work & paperstreet receive sales monthly

BTW, any GFYers having a go at op when he's already explained, it's his first company to work for, shame on you, if he's legit

g f y garry!! wife has leather face!!!! smile like retarded

[Hannes]

wether it is a scam, it wasn't a crazy amount of money at least. now you have learned to not trust a specific business.

[Smart Fred]

Originally Posted by AaronM

The only possible scammer I'm seeing here is the OP.

Props to how you've handled everything so far Zak.

I fully agree with with you Aaron.
When a guy is unable to provide us from which URL he has sent the sales, it's because he runs something unclear.
I had no problem with Paper Street Cash when I was a TGP submitter. Nowadays, my problem is to send traffic to them

[Grisey]

I think i was one of the first to promote PSC, always been stand up since

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Paper_Zak

Unfortunately, the traffic and sales we received from you was quite suspicious

but they could still be legit sales?

Originally Posted by CPA-Rush

yes
no

You mean, true & correct.

Originally Posted by Smart Fred

When a guy is unable to provide us from which URL he has sent the sales, it's because he runs something unclear.(

He could have just bought traffic, could he not?

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Harambe

g f y garry!! wife has leather face!!!! smile like retarded

says the retard

Leave my fella out of the conversation when you're speaking with me or, I'll have to bring your partner into this too. It's obvious you're feeling sad about your wife & her real leather face, the ugly old hag. Why are you trying to pick on pretty girls like me... now you

You fat fuck