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Bladewire

She had a good run and is sacrificing for the good of the party, something socialist Sanders knows nothing about, then again, Sanders isn't part of the Democratic party, just using the platform to push his socialist agenda.

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VRPdommy

I think when the dust settles after this election, folks are going to be sorry they did not support Bernie.

While you can say most anything you want about a candidate, it would be hard to relly get anything to stick in a bad way to him.
He is probably the most genuine candidate I have seen in my lifetime.
Just look at the old CSPAN footage of him in the senate 10 years ago or more. His message has not changed. He believes in what he is dong for the right reasons and they do not concern the 'party' or 'lobby's' in them.
He does not put his finger up to see what way the wind is blowing.

lucky for us, I think he will fight-on for his principles, no matter who fills that seat.

VRPdommy

I doubt you know what a Socialist is because if you did, you would not say that.
This country has had Socialist programs for a long time...
Social Security
Unemployment Compensation
Workmans Comp
Public Schools
To name the most familiar ones.

You can never have equal Justus under the law as long as some who make more are entitled to tax breaks and privileges not afforded by all.

Bladewire

Bernie is a liar and their, he also doesn't keep his word and has no integrity, as this election cycle demonstrated many times over.

Bernie lost because older intelligent voters saw through his bullshit

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Bladewire

Socialist programs is not a socialist country, which is what your close friend Sanders wants. Sanders was self proclaimed socialist using a Democracy to push forward a socialist agenda.

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Rochard

I don't really care about any of this - seems they are making a big deal about nothing.

It was very obvious after the last election that Clinton was the best chance for the Democratic party to win in 2016. The Democratic party knew Clinton, worked with Clinton, and she had a huge following after the last election.

I don't know much about Sanders but Sanders has one major fault - He is Jewish. This shouldn't matter, but the moment Sanders did anything with Israel people will say "He is giving Israel favored status" or some such non-sense.

I am not saying all of this is planned out well in advance, but you already know both sides have teams set up right now working on the next election. You know the Republicans have a group somewhere looking at the next round of candidates for 2020 in the even Trump loses (or even if he wins). And the Democrats have the same, vetting candidates for the next run in case Clinton loses or in the even she wins but doesn't run in 2020.

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VRPdommy

I am one of those older voters so tell me what I did not get. I'm well over 50. With a I.Q. of over 160 so I am nether young nor stupid.
Please site a example of his terrible lies. I would love to hear what I missed since I follow this stuff closer than many in the media. Can you tell me those without going to a website and looking at someone's else's talking points.


I glad you understand that a socialist candidate does not make a socialist country. That means he is not king and can not change the constitution without the 2 other bodies of government in agreement and it also does not break the 1st 7 articles of it, since they can not be changed by anyone except the people/states. So no fear in the country being overthrown by a old socialist Jew I guess.

While he is not my friend, I would be proud to know him that well. I have watched his integrity for more than a decade before most knew his name and I can say what makes him most interesting is his integrity. Something we don't see much anymore in politicians.

But as most do, it is easier to let others create your opinions for you.
Can't change a thing until you start thinking for yourself.
Fear mongering is the first sign you should question the messenger. For they lack a good enough message of their own.

GFED

#freebernie

Bladewire

When you consider facts fear mongering then you know why Bernie lost.

I'm not rehashing all of my Bernie facts for you, you can read through my months of Bernie posts to educate yourself. If you don't know about the Sanders campaign stealing Clinton's voter data, him not releasing his taxes though he promised to (but for one year), him promising to endorse, then dragging out to deplete impact, not ending his campaign, etc. The list goes on, but to you he's a top notch guy so no facts will change your feelings.

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VRPdommy

I kinda agree with most of that. But if it were that alone, no big deal. Put that in with all the other raised issues, it does not help with the swing vote.

It has been clear to me the the right had it in for her early on knowing she was going to run and had the best chance of winning no matter who they put up.
So it has been a long campaign of smear for many years. Making much to do 'bout nut'n.

Several years ago,knowing this, I just knew if she won, it was going to be as bad or worse scandals as Bill had, even though most or many would have no foundation in fact.

You can see what happens when folks are so reactionary. Can you name some other democrate that would have passed the repeal of Glass-Steagle in 1999 while he was under the gun for Monica, a non-issue for me even though I did not exactly like him.

When the public is so reactionary to slander, it weakens government as a whole.
It allows those who are good at it to have their way with all of us.

VRPdommy

Thanks for replying truthfully.
If you knew the true facts and not those pressed by the campaign, it was a server error not a hack of the Bernie's campaign. Both camps had access to a shared database of information where both stored camp info in the same system that was suppose to be secure for each. So they did not "STEAL" it, But they did see it as the Bernie folks said as much. And I'm willing to bet the security whole was opened up in the database by the DNC so that the Clinton camp had access to his data. But that is my own speculation from being in my own data security biz for over 20 years and seeing a lot of internal motivation for security lapses.
And not dropping out of the campaign is not telling a lie. Even though you may not have liked it, it's not a lie. I would have done the same especially when you don't know what might happen with the FBI and her email scandal (even though I do not put much weight in that), where would the party be if he dropped out and she went to jail ?
It was more about having a voice in the future governance.

Count your blessings. She is going to need him to win the election. He brings many things to the democrat's that she in in void of. 1/3 of both sides of the electorate respect what Bernie has to say. After loosing to her, that still says a lot. And if she gets elected, you will need him and Liz Warren to get any legislation passed through the Senate.
It's all good !

crockett

I'm a Sanders supporter but my current girl is from Bennington and says Sanders used to come to their coffee shop. She said he was a bit of an A hole..


With that said, he'd still by far be the best choice. Democrats fucked up bowing down to Hillary and the cheating that went on in the background needs to be punished.

Sanders should be up in arms and suing the DNC for election fraud. He won't though because he will think it's better to support Hillary to stop Trump.

That is the wrong choice even if it were to mean Trump could win. It's more important to stomp out corruption than to worry if Trump gets cock blocked or not..

Bernie is making the exact same mistake Al Gore made when not confronting the election fraud in FL. He didn't fight to expose it via the courts so the fraudulent all holes won and who knows how deep it goes at this point.

The Republican party was already corrupt as fuck and look what that has done to their party. Now the DNC is exposed as being the same and will end up as bad as the Republican party as people whom don't accept it fight those who do..

Jigster715

You're right the complete and utter subversion of the democratic process is a trivial matter not worth the population's time.

Bladewire

Rather dramatic. You didn't read any of the 19,000 emails other than the 3 email snippets the media hand fed you.

The irony is anyone could go through your GFY post history and try to paint you in black & white by hand picking 3 posts and you wouldn't take it, but if it's against the DNC you suck it all in as the gospel

It's well known since 2010 that wikileaks is a Russian psy op.

https://m.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/co...ileaks_i_dont/

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"The Democratic National Committee has canceled all of Wasserman Schultz’s appearances at the convention as well as all scheduled television broadcasts that she was supposed to do this week. This will leave the Democrats without one of their biggest public speaking proponents at a time when she is most needed."

But the seemingly disgraced Wasserman Schultz has already landed on her feet, earning the role of “honorary chair” on Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“There’s simply no one better at taking the fight to the Republicans than Debbie,” Clinton said in a statement. “Which is why I am glad that she has agreed to serve as honorary chair of my campaign’s 50-state program to gain ground and elect Democrats in every part of the country, and will continue to serve as a surrogate for my campaign nationally, in Florida, and in other key states.”

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Bladewire

Old news. Meanwhile this just in How Trump Nod Could Cause Record Muslim-American Voter Turnout - NBC News

Jigster715

LOL. Hardly.

So you are presenting the conspiracy theory that Russia is fabricating everything Wikileaks puts out. Politicians in US freak out as in Wasserman loses her job and its just a shadow play. Maybe its time to look at the content like I do rather than the messenger.

You quote reddit. Thats an asshat forum if ever I saw one. lol. I could care less what redditors have to say. lol.

I personally do not care the source unless, like reddit, its a confirmed troll farm. I look at the source then I look at the info. Its pretty easy to ascertain motives, positions...but so far Kerry, Obama and the rest have not accused Wikileaks of complete fabrications. Not that I've seen anyways. They are usually trying to duck and cover.


Go back to work and do something productive. Sitting at your computer or mobile posting news stories is a little too much like bras.... er, a waste of meaningful time. Your life is finite. IN the future, do you really want to spend your time in diapers in an old folks trying to recount old gfy posts and battles?

Edit: I am neither, DNC or GOP. Both can suck it as far as I am concerned.

Oops, my break is over. Back to pussy world.

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Must be great having two scandalous bitches on your side. This shit is one of the best comedy shows Ive ever seen and it's just getting started.

Bladewire

You're high and/or drunk.

I did not "So you are presenting the conspiracy theory that Russia is fabricating everything Wikileaks puts out" You are psycho dude

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meanwhile bladewire posts liberal identity politics boilerplate from a left wing media fraudulently disguised as non-partisan. says he is not a liberal.

just keep singing that song of identity politics you not-liberal.

Bladewire

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VRPdommy

The politicians tell you what issues are important to the public and the public sucks it up.

The whole while most are talking about issues that the politicians knows the conversation will look favorable to them and since the public does not yell the issues to them, we are never going to talk issues that matter to our everyday lives in the short or long term.

It is time the public set the agenda and the first thing I think both parties of the public can agree on is that we need to get rid of is lobby written legislation and the lobbyist themselves. Ross Perot did warn you some time ago and it's only got worse.

When a citizen has less rights than a publicly traded company, there is something wrong with that since we shed the blood to protect there interest over ours.

It did read We The People, NOT We The Corporations.
You want your liberty's back now, you are going to have to fight hard for them. It's gone to far.

We should have got the pitch forks out when Wall Street and the banks proved once again they could not be trusted without strict regulation. Only 8 years after removing the reg's and they nearly trash the world economy. 8 years latter and we are still digging out of the hole after taking care of the folks that did it to us. And we were helpless to it.

I doubt there is enough stomach for it. You will never have a solution if you don't blame the right folks.
The banks and wall street is a good place to start and it does not end there. Anything less is biz as usual.

I am expected to be accountable for my actions but a corporate charter is almost a license to kill / get out of jail free card. Change is needed.

And I don't need someone to tell me the system is rigged,
I need someone to tell me exactly how they plan to fix that !
If they want my one vote that is.

I don't care who they represent as a party, it is the substance of there intentions that will change my life. It is to hard to gauge that for most when there is so much money in the election process. A foreign power could be supporting a candidate and you would never know it because of the new MONEY IS EQUAL TO FREE SPEECH RULES prevents us from knowing who the donors are. Where are the checks and balances on that.
How much free speech is in your wallet !

That's my rant for the night. Have a good day if you can. If not, look for the pitch fork. or let someone pacify you with who to blame for it.

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New DNC Interim Chair Trashed Sanders Camp In Email | The Daily Caller

Bladewire

Sanders is a self proclaimed socialist, Democrats aren't socialists. Socialists & Democrats trash each other. A

Love to see the Bernie's hacked emails, his taxes he refuses to release as well ;)

VRPdommy

If those issue's are going to make a difference in your life, that is sad for all of us.

And what does it say for Hilliary and the Democrat's that they almost elected a OLD SOCIALIST JEW who might be hiding something in his taxes knowing that was so.
It's not like it was some kind of tightly held secrete or something.

If your not for something of substance, join Trumps Camp, you will fit in well.

Can't you just be for one issue that will make a difference in you or your family's life in the short or long term ? Rhetoric only works with the STUPID .

Pick a issue, any one (there are plenty if you look), to be for, and gee whiz, someone may hear you. Put your energy where it counts. Your feeding the same crap that has been putting us in this mess most of my life.

Make them all hear 'your issues' or you are doomed to more of the same.
Sometimes the lack of solutions comes from not demanding them.