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pimpmaster9000 · 08-21-2016, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

The most vulnerable jobs in regard to "losing them to robots" are the assembly-line jobs: Work that does not require much judgment. As a matter of fact most of the western workers are allready replaced by robots: The Asian workforce! The percentage of workers still involved in manufacturing in, for example, America is only about 10%. The shift of assembly-line labor to developing countries did not lead to mass unemployment.

Conclussion: if robot labor leads to mass unemployment it will be mass unemployment in Asia...

Introducing UBI because of mass unemployment caused by robots is just totally plucked out of thin air.

asian workers are still cheaper than robots...western ones are not...

there has never been a time like this in history...robots used to be expensive and complicated to program...the new robots out there cost 1 western yearly salary total and literally learn by watching you work...

what is even more scary is software...AI will replace humans much more than robots ever could...right now software is trading on wall street and not humans...

there is no coming back from this one...

woj · 08-21-2016, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

asian workers are still cheaper than robots...western ones are not...

there has never been a time like this in history...robots used to be expensive and complicated to program...the new robots out there cost 1 western yearly salary total and literally learn by watching you work...

what is even more scary is software...AI will replace humans much more than robots ever could...right now software is trading on wall street and not humans...

there is no coming back from this one...

cost of robots is going down, and wages are going up over time, so eventually it will drop below cost of labor, even in poor countries...

so what Struggle4Bucks pointed out makes sense, if the predictions are true, countries whose economies are based on manufacturing will be effected first and to greater extent than "service" economies...

Look Chang · 08-21-2016, 05:27 AM

The future of mankind is worrying

pimpmaster9000 · 08-21-2016, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

cost of robots is going down, and wages are going up over time, so eventually it will drop below cost of labor, even in poor countries...

so what Struggle4Bucks pointed out makes sense, if the predictions are true, countries whose economies are based on manufacturing will be effected first and to greater extent than "service" economies...

artificial intelligence as a service will be huge in the next 10 years...replacing the high paid humans will make mucho $$$$ for a few but leave billions without work...

AI is our worst nightmare, not in the terminator kind of way, but in a "I can do this so much better than you for pennies" kind of way...AI does not have to declare war on humans like in terminator

, it just has to make us un-employable and we will die out on our own

AI will be the steroids of the service economy world...you either take AI or you lose to AI...

there has never been a period in history like this...there is no coming back from this one...

Adnium_Ivana · 08-22-2016, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I've given this some thought. One of the things that has always amazed me is world population numbers.

I do see a time where eventually there will be less and less jobs. You can argue that there will always be a need for a human somewhere along the line, but eventually that will become less and less. Eventually they will be able to create robots that can do everything we can do. Truck drivers, taxi cab drivers, delivery drivers, bus drivers.... Will no longer have jobs. Same with food prep and serving - Push a button and a hamburger comes out. I watched a video the other day where a robot laid two thousand bricks in two hours for the foundation of a house.

I think eventually some people will have some kind of "universal income" but also think that companies will be required by law to have a certain amount of employees if only just to give us something to do.

I agree. Most manual jobs will turn digital - in fact most jobs (save for oil rigging etc) will be completely online or automated. Not sure I want to be a part of this future to be honest

Adnium_Ivana · 08-22-2016, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

Perhaps a good name for this experiment would be the Soviet Union?

Soviet Union, communism and socialism are definetly different that what is being proposed here though. I'd have socialism any day over what is being proposed with Universal income though...way more sustainable

Adnium_Ivana · 08-22-2016, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Look Chang

The future of mankind is worrying

Seriously. Majority will all be fat slobs confined to our computers...oh wait that's already happening

Tasty1 · 08-22-2016, 07:07 AM

I adjust, if they give me more money it is ok.
And than we will see if it works.
It would create a whole new world and has big influence.
I just studied tourism rapports for the comming 10-20 years.
Work, living and holiday will be combined.
People travelling around, live eveywhere and do some work online.
They are already naming the 'digital nomads' in the surveys.
So, nothing changes for me, only the government want to give money for doing nothing.
Well o.k. than.

People shouldn't work from 18 years old till they are dead or 67 years old.
But now i have to work, i want make money from people that get free money.
Big market.

DrJsn · 08-22-2016, 11:48 AM

Did you guys watch the movie Wall-E? All the humans are fat slobs who lay around in their floating movable chairs drinking their food, while the robots do everything. Somehow I think this a very likely scenario for the future. Lazy humans getting fatter and more dependant on machines to the point where noone works but gets everything free.

BlackCrayon · 08-22-2016, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DrJsn

Did you guys watch the movie Wall-E? All the humans are fat slobs who lay around in their floating movable chairs drinking their food, while the robots do everything. Somehow I think this a very likely scenario for the future. Lazy humans getting fatter and more dependant on machines to the point where noone works but gets everything free.

the human being - obsolete.

Tasty1 · 08-22-2016, 02:43 PM

think about all those people. Free money. Nothing to do but watch porn all day in VR.
And some people still work and make more money.

The Porn Nerd · 08-22-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

fuck no.

Only leftist parasites think it is a god idea.

It IS a "God idea".
He thinks everyone should be treated with dignity and that every life matters.

The problem is with that bitch Satan. He always wants MORE MORE MORE.

MrMaxwell · 08-26-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ContentPimp

Hundred percent agree with you man!
The best way to help people is to teach them to help themselves.
Universal Basic Income will just lead to people being dependent knowing that there will be income that they will receive whether they work their butt off or not.

It is just like the principle of "Sowing and Reaping"
What you work hard in the beginning will give you beneficial roots, in the end.

Someone agreed with me on GFY

Soon I'll be on a BOAT
Like LEO

MrMaxwell · 08-26-2016, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWENSON

People are productive because it's boring as hell to do anything else. Lazy people will be lazy, what value is really added to society by flipping burgers at McDonalds when a robot can do it? Further, it's a small basic income. People will still want nice things and they will work in addition to that but society will focus on shit that actually matters much more if everyone is fed and not out robbing people to afford food.

I've seen so many lazy ass fucks here in the states on assistance programs to know what it does. Hell. My (ex) closest friend is a sociopathic mentally disturbed worthless harm causing piece of walking filth and a disgusting useless trouble making hate breeding animal thanks to being a subsidized parasitic piece of shit.
Fuck all of that
It did nothing but exacerbate the symptoms of her mental issues and she should be in prison where her bitch ass belongs but there's NO accountability for these inane morons
NONE
After all the trouble that scum caused for me it even used the legal system to cause me untold hell because it's so use to gaming the system and getting away with everything

I'd rather live under a fucking bridge than go on welfare

Paul Markham · 08-26-2016, 02:17 AM

This last 100 years we've seen a huge growth in wages and living conditions. Based on the need for human workers.

In the last 10 years, we have been part of the collapse of the previous model. We are today, where instead of buying a video or magazine, people go online. Pornhub feed 100s of millions on a staff that could never have coped in the offline porn world. And online porn is shrinking in terms of workers.

Will affiliates be required in 5 years time when one person can buy ads?

How many people are employed building cars in 2016, compare that with 1986. More cars on the roads, less people building them.

Even flipping burgers or intricate surgery can be done better by a computer.

Will the top 1% who own the computers share their wealth or go back to the time when the top 1% were very rich off the backs of 90% being very poor?

JSWENSON · 08-26-2016, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I've seen so many lazy ass fucks here in the states on assistance programs to know what it does. Hell. My (ex) closest friend is a sociopathic mentally disturbed worthless harm causing piece of walking filth and a disgusting useless trouble making hate breeding animal thanks to being a subsidized parasitic piece of shit.
Fuck all of that
It did nothing but exacerbate the symptoms of her mental issues and she should be in prison where her bitch ass belongs but there's NO accountability for these inane morons
NONE
After all the trouble that scum caused for me it even used the legal system to cause me untold hell because it's so use to gaming the system and getting away with everything

I'd rather live under a fucking bridge than go on welfare

They are lazy to start, not because of the assistance.

If someone gives you a check for $800 per month are you going to quit working?

Most people will say no.

The entire point is that our production levels are at all time highs. It's not that we don't produce value, it's that it all goes to a very few people. You cover everyone's basic needs and society prospers even though it goes against the "just pull on your bootstraps" mindset.

I hate lazy fucks as well, that has **nothing** to do with UBI. They exist and always will and guess what? If less work is needed because we are so fucking efficient at what we do then who gives a flying fuck? Humans should really work 40 hours a week for most of their lives to share in the resources available in this world?

Paul Markham · 08-26-2016, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I've seen so many lazy ass fucks here in the states on assistance programs to know what it does. Hell. My (ex) closest friend is a sociopathic mentally disturbed worthless harm causing piece of walking filth and a disgusting useless trouble making hate breeding animal thanks to being a subsidized parasitic piece of shit.
Fuck all of that
It did nothing but exacerbate the symptoms of her mental issues and she should be in prison where her bitch ass belongs but there's NO accountability for these inane morons
NONE
After all the trouble that scum caused for me it even used the legal system to cause me untold hell because it's so use to gaming the system and getting away with everything

I'd rather live under a fucking bridge than go on welfare

And there's the other problem. What will millions do to occupy themselves, when there's no alternative to benefits?

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