Why do most paysites have a "warning" page, yet freesites do not? - GoFuckYourself.com

ReggieDurango · 08-24-2016, 02:52 PM

I'm guessing it has to do with billing?

CurrentlySober · 08-24-2016, 03:04 PM

Its because they need it for the 'Exit' link that always goes to google

NatalieK · 08-24-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

Its because they need it for the 'Exit' link that always goes to google

Yes, Reggie, it's part of the billing team, they ask for a disclaimer to say that it's a porn site & the viewer is over 18

woj · 08-24-2016, 03:15 PM

paysites are more likely to be targeted and have more to lose, so they need to run a tighter ship?

CaptainHowdy · 08-24-2016, 03:17 PM

Paysite owners = Good.

Affiliates = Evil.

Adnium_Ivana · 08-24-2016, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

I'm guessing it has to do with billing?

and legality..

Colmike9 · 08-24-2016, 03:20 PM

Lower bounce rate?

Joe Obenberger · 08-24-2016, 03:40 PM

1. No US law requires a warning page.
2. Congress has asked publishers of explicit content to use such a page in the interest of protecting kids.
3. There's a practical and common sense benefit to a warning page with an "agree" button and that purpose is to bind visitors to a contract, a contract that presumably advantages the site owner. You won't get far telling a judge that a site visitor is bound to your terms of service just because you posted one. Contracts require agreement - or at least acceptance, and a warning page "agree" button gives you at least an argument.
4. A warning page can amount to a digital no trespassing sign, which just might provide some advantage to a site operator if there is a particular class of visitors he wants to exclude and have legal leverage over them. Say, reporters and journalists or maybe others who are doing an investigation for professional or - can I say this in public? - official reasons. Yes, they are private property, and the owner can limit access as he sees fit to private property.
5. Not all tube sites are the same. But some have been way beyond shady and it would not be in the the character of the worst to spend much time thinking about the law, even when it just might help them.
6. The conventional wisdom is that anything that interferes with impulse drives visitors away and decreases traffic, be it a warning page or a 2257 notice. That's actually controversial, but many, many believe it. And that's why lots of operators forgo it.
Question answered?

ReggieDurango · 08-24-2016, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

5. Not all tube sites are the same. But some have been way beyond shady and it would not be in the the character of the worst to spend much time thinking about the law, even when it just might help them.
6. The conventional wisdom is that anything that interferes with impulse drives visitors away and decreases traffic, be it a warning page or a 2257 notice. That's actually controversial, but many, many believe it. And that's why lots of operators forgo it.
Question answered?

Thanks Joe, question kind of answered, but I still don't understand why the biggest, corporate tubes still don't have these warning pages? XVideos, Xhamster, Youporn, Pornhub, they have a lot to lose, right? The Mindgeek-owned tubesites don't have warning pages, yet the Mindgeek-owned paysites DO have warning pages, why is that?

ErectMedia · 08-24-2016, 04:00 PM

paysite owner might have a house, fancy car, cash, jewelry so more to protect

free site owner might live in mom's basement with no natural lighting so basically collection proof from any possible judgement unless they start taking ecigs, drones, fleshlights and playstations then their fucked

NatalieK · 08-24-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Thanks Joe, question kind of answered, but I still don't understand why the biggest, corporate tubes still don't have these warning pages? XVideos, Xhamster, Youporn, Pornhub, they have a lot to lose, right? The Mindgeek-owned tubesites don't have warning pages, yet the Mindgeek-owned paysites DO have warning pages, why is that?

it's literally because they don't have too... I think this is wrong & incorrect. It wouldn't hurt them to do so, although, a simple click & anyone can view the porn anyway

Joe Obenberger · 08-24-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

Thanks Joe, question kind of answered, but I still don't understand why the biggest, corporate tubes still don't have these warning pages? XVideos, Xhamster, Youporn, Pornhub, they have a lot to lose, right? The Mindgeek-owned tubesites don't have warning pages, yet the Mindgeek-owned paysites DO have warning pages, why is that?

My best guess is that it's a function of the extent to which they take their lawyer's advice, which is usually going to be on the safe side of having a warning page, versus deciding to depart from the safest practice because of how they read the odds of any real harm and their best guess about lost traffic revenue. Given the advantages that come from having a binding contract with your visitors and members, I think that it should be an easy decision. If the content is strong, it will attract. Who has ever stopped watching a clip because it has a three second 2257 Notice? IF a site puts some creativity into a warning page, it can actually work to promote and excite the visitor.

The Porn Nerd · 08-24-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

My best guess is that it's a function of the extent to which they take their lawyer's advice, which is usually going to be on the safe side of having a warning page, versus deciding to depart from the safest practice because of how they read the odds of any real harm and their best guess about lost traffic revenue. Given the advantages that come from having a binding contract with your visitors and members, I think that it should be an easy decision. If the content is strong, it will attract. Who has ever stopped watching a clip because it has a three second 2257 Notice? IF a site puts some creativity into a warning page, it can actually work to promote and excite the visitor.

Thanks Joe! Your posts are awesome.

For tubes I would guess (only a guess) that to access the premium content (which they charge for) there is a Member login/agree page but since the general "public" tubesite does not ask for a visitor's money or credit card info then why bother?

Is asking for payment (whether the visitor joins or not) also a reason paysites have Warning pages?

ReggieDurango · 08-25-2016, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Obenberger

IF a site puts some creativity into a warning page, it can actually work to promote and excite the visitor.

That's a very interesting point..

rabbit · 08-25-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ReggieDurango

That's a very interesting point..

We used to have a dry legal warning page which we converted to a pg13 landing page explaining what the site is about: http://www.rabbitsreviews.com

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Joe Obenberger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 466	1. No US law requires a warning page. 2. Congress has asked publishers of explicit content to use such a page in the interest of protecting kids. 3. There's a practical and common sense benefit to a warning page with an "agree" button and that purpose is to bind visitors to a contract, a contract that presumably advantages the site owner. You won't get far telling a judge that a site visitor is bound to your terms of service just because you posted one. Contracts require agreement - or at least acceptance, and a warning page "agree" button gives you at least an argument. 4. A warning page can amount to a digital no trespassing sign, which just might provide some advantage to a site operator if there is a particular class of visitors he wants to exclude and have legal leverage over them. Say, reporters and journalists or maybe others who are doing an investigation for professional or - can I say this in public? - official reasons. Yes, they are private property, and the owner can limit access as he sees fit to private property. 5. Not all tube sites are the same. But some have been way beyond shady and it would not be in the the character of the worst to spend much time thinking about the law, even when it just might help them. 6. The conventional wisdom is that anything that interferes with impulse drives visitors away and decreases traffic, be it a warning page or a 2257 notice. That's actually controversial, but many, many believe it. And that's why lots of operators forgo it. Question answered? __________________ Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. . . Restraint in the pursuit of Justice is no virtue. Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964

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